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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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VeraLynnTookMyCoat · 28/01/2023 12:40

I'm sure Alice knows exactly what happened, she will have been subjected in 2020 to his first discarding behaviour, emotionally checking out and then "oh were not getting on line", I wonder why ?, whilst Alice had no idea what was wrong at the time and began to get angry (hense the I'm leaving you video which he filmed ?) in reality he set her up it was exactly what he wanted and made her look like an abuser, no wonder her drinking escalated as Mr D Wonderful would swoop back in after months of being away.

She coudn't win, entering the menopause with her already 5 years older, she's just been dicarded for a younger model, end of. I doubt she was abusive to the children before this crap and even Ioan before he started getting full of himself, and thinking he was God's gift.

Hopefully in the following years she will have expelled some of that anger and realise what is important here, she has her children, Ioan really has screwed his relationship up with them, his kids will see where his attention lies in the years to come.
He's thoroughly humiliated his children by disrespecting his wife, their mother, I also don't think Ioan has been abused, I do think Alice was neglected along with the children.
What is he now 50, yeah it's gonna be another 10 years before he grows up and see's how his actions have contributed to this mess, hopefully after the divorce Alice won't be forced into some gagging order by means of getting a settlement and she can write a book and start earning some money for her little family.

She needs to forget about Ioan, leave him to prance about with this Australian gold digger, he's a laughing stock and Alice needs to remember that.
As for that film they're making, well all I can say is there's no fool like an old fool and he's achieved that spectacularly.

How utterly embarrasing to see your dad behave like a fool, but they'll not admit that till he's dead as they need to think of the money.

Knowing him and how disgarding of his family he has been, Alice and Ioans cash will be devided, and after Ioans death it will be solely left to Miss Australia, that fear will haunt Alice.

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 12:41

According to Bianca's instagram it looks like they are permanently on holidays to various places.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:45

VeraLynnTookMyCoat · 28/01/2023 12:40

I'm sure Alice knows exactly what happened, she will have been subjected in 2020 to his first discarding behaviour, emotionally checking out and then "oh were not getting on line", I wonder why ?, whilst Alice had no idea what was wrong at the time and began to get angry (hense the I'm leaving you video which he filmed ?) in reality he set her up it was exactly what he wanted and made her look like an abuser, no wonder her drinking escalated as Mr D Wonderful would swoop back in after months of being away.

She coudn't win, entering the menopause with her already 5 years older, she's just been dicarded for a younger model, end of. I doubt she was abusive to the children before this crap and even Ioan before he started getting full of himself, and thinking he was God's gift.

Hopefully in the following years she will have expelled some of that anger and realise what is important here, she has her children, Ioan really has screwed his relationship up with them, his kids will see where his attention lies in the years to come.
He's thoroughly humiliated his children by disrespecting his wife, their mother, I also don't think Ioan has been abused, I do think Alice was neglected along with the children.
What is he now 50, yeah it's gonna be another 10 years before he grows up and see's how his actions have contributed to this mess, hopefully after the divorce Alice won't be forced into some gagging order by means of getting a settlement and she can write a book and start earning some money for her little family.

She needs to forget about Ioan, leave him to prance about with this Australian gold digger, he's a laughing stock and Alice needs to remember that.
As for that film they're making, well all I can say is there's no fool like an old fool and he's achieved that spectacularly.

How utterly embarrasing to see your dad behave like a fool, but they'll not admit that till he's dead as they need to think of the money.

Knowing him and how disgarding of his family he has been, Alice and Ioans cash will be devided, and after Ioans death it will be solely left to Miss Australia, that fear will haunt Alice.

The money's gone Ioan has hired Brad Pitt's lawyer without having Brad's money 🤣🤣🤣. They are both shockingly bad with money.

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:46

I think it’s pretty obvious that to some people, the word ‘flaunting’ is just a descriptive word for ‘I don’t approve of this’.

Firstly, no one asked us to approve of it but flaunting means an ostentatious display, which hasn’t happened at any point so this word makes no sense? using this word in the wrong context it is baffling that one lone photo, posted to stop Alice spreading more lies has now been entirely rebranded into something else! Secondly there is no rule book even in court, or law that stops someone having a relationship after another one has ended, and no, I don’t think it’s necessary to become celibate and this woman or her presence is not the one doing any harm, Alice is.

Ioan wasn’t a toxic husband or partner or father even in Alice’s own words over and over, he was perfect and her best friend, an amazing dad and she doesn’t want anyone else to have him and she doesn’t want to be alone. Why doesn’t someone who has left a horrible RS deserve to find happiness? He wasn’t stopping her doing the same. Yes you may decide to not get into a RS until you have had therapy, healed and your kids are older but I don’t blame people who do, life is short and for living.

No child deserves to be used as a weapon as she has done, but there is not going to be a magic fix for this. They are not Brad and Ange, with millions in the bank and can afford years long law suits or PR to keep their profiles up. They have never been A list at all. He can’t just take them away and I don’t even think he wants to, you would want the other parent to get better yeah? Be a good parent and treat your kids right? I have never felt it was my place to decide my ex cannot be a father based on how he treated me, it is a courts decision and a complex one at that. I don’t see evidence that Ioan is being vindictive trying to take them from her, and he seems to want to share them. If she is dangerous then she may well lose that right all by herself, not at his hand

PinkPupZ · 28/01/2023 12:47

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 09:52

I went on a similar rabbit hole and there were some arsey text messages between Ioan and their daughter. The daughter was saying she wanted to go to a theme park and he was saying no because his girlfriend has MS and he has to be careful. That's fair enough but he gets shitty with her and puts it on her to suggest something to do and then no plans go ahead.

He really doesn't handle it well. He could have said 'we can't go to the theme park right now but I am so looking forward to seeing you, how about X Y or Z activity?' And suggested safe activities that fit his criteria for safety rather than put the pressure on a tween in the middle of an ugly divorce to solve the problem.

He sends her other texts saying he will only talk to her in therapy because she's being rude. That's a bizarre way to parent.

If he was more mature and empathetic to his daughter he'd be holding space for the fact that she's angry and confused and just letting her be a bit shitty rather than punish her and push her away for it. Just poor parenting.

Not saying Alice is any better, I just think they are both selfish and lacking.

He knew who she was when he married her, when he went through IVF to make her someone's mother. I don't think you get to act surprised in midlife and blame her for being who she's always been.

Also 10% in a divorce settlement for a long term relationship and the mother of your two children is unconscionable.

Excellent points @StarsSand

Floofyduffypuddy · 28/01/2023 12:52

@StarsSand and @VeraLynnTookMyCoat

Excellent posts.

He sounds absolutely infantile and dreadul. Those poor children.

It still amazes me how little children's feelings are taken into regard when parents break up. They are just supposed to suck up happily a smashed life because daddy wants to be happy??
Dreadul.

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:52

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 12:41

According to Bianca's instagram it looks like they are permanently on holidays to various places.

Many of which have been work trips. Alice made long posts on Insta about how it was unfair she wasn’t able to go anymore or he should take the kids out of school and take them on set with him whilst he is working but then also said they hated him now anyway.

I follow BW on Insta too and they have been to Australia (work), France (work), wales (to see his parents and looks like find work), New York (work) France (work) and Australia again (work/family). She also spends a lot of time in hospital and she is also looking for acting work. She was in the Elvis movie.

He is seeing his kids from what I gather from her Twitter, is going on now and has applied for 50/50 custody. Alice only tells you what she thinks makes her look good

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:53

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:46

I think it’s pretty obvious that to some people, the word ‘flaunting’ is just a descriptive word for ‘I don’t approve of this’.

Firstly, no one asked us to approve of it but flaunting means an ostentatious display, which hasn’t happened at any point so this word makes no sense? using this word in the wrong context it is baffling that one lone photo, posted to stop Alice spreading more lies has now been entirely rebranded into something else! Secondly there is no rule book even in court, or law that stops someone having a relationship after another one has ended, and no, I don’t think it’s necessary to become celibate and this woman or her presence is not the one doing any harm, Alice is.

Ioan wasn’t a toxic husband or partner or father even in Alice’s own words over and over, he was perfect and her best friend, an amazing dad and she doesn’t want anyone else to have him and she doesn’t want to be alone. Why doesn’t someone who has left a horrible RS deserve to find happiness? He wasn’t stopping her doing the same. Yes you may decide to not get into a RS until you have had therapy, healed and your kids are older but I don’t blame people who do, life is short and for living.

No child deserves to be used as a weapon as she has done, but there is not going to be a magic fix for this. They are not Brad and Ange, with millions in the bank and can afford years long law suits or PR to keep their profiles up. They have never been A list at all. He can’t just take them away and I don’t even think he wants to, you would want the other parent to get better yeah? Be a good parent and treat your kids right? I have never felt it was my place to decide my ex cannot be a father based on how he treated me, it is a courts decision and a complex one at that. I don’t see evidence that Ioan is being vindictive trying to take them from her, and he seems to want to share them. If she is dangerous then she may well lose that right all by herself, not at his hand

Yawn when you have children you put them first over shagging. That's why there's so many messed up blended families because people choose their genitals over their existing children. He could have still had a relationship with her just not living together , attempting to blend in an acrimonious divorce with teen and tween DDs is asking for trouble. It's more than likely Bianca was the OW he met her on set the children would know this they aren't daft. It's then in the papers Ioan and Bianca on holiday, paps didn't take the pictures she uploaded them to Instagram.

It's not long until the kids are 18, you can still have a relationship and not move in together or attempt to blend my parents did this when they divorced. It worked out fine and we are happy.

ambientrock · 28/01/2023 12:54

He left his children with an alcoholic narcissistic abuser. He was away and conveniently met Bianca while filming . His mind was not on his children's safety or stability.

Yes, why did he leave them if she was so dreadful? Surely he'd have prioritised their welfare first if that was the case?

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:54

@StarsSand

he has already offered her more than 10%. She’s turned it down many times. Their money is all now going to lawyers. You also have to remember it’s the US and he will win back Epstein credits as it’s gone on so long. The winners are lawyers really. She’s also now ruined her chances at getting spousal support as she will get a DV conviction. She also may lose a lot of custody if she carries on.

Bluekerfuffle · 28/01/2023 12:55

I feel sorry for her, she seems very angry and upset. If half of what she says is true, he’s a complete arsehole and I can understand her anger.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:55

ambientrock · 28/01/2023 12:54

He left his children with an alcoholic narcissistic abuser. He was away and conveniently met Bianca while filming . His mind was not on his children's safety or stability.

Yes, why did he leave them if she was so dreadful? Surely he'd have prioritised their welfare first if that was the case?

Thats the question but the Ioan fans can never give me a straight answer. I dislike both of them I only feel sorry for the children..

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:57

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:53

Yawn when you have children you put them first over shagging. That's why there's so many messed up blended families because people choose their genitals over their existing children. He could have still had a relationship with her just not living together , attempting to blend in an acrimonious divorce with teen and tween DDs is asking for trouble. It's more than likely Bianca was the OW he met her on set the children would know this they aren't daft. It's then in the papers Ioan and Bianca on holiday, paps didn't take the pictures she uploaded them to Instagram.

It's not long until the kids are 18, you can still have a relationship and not move in together or attempt to blend my parents did this when they divorced. It worked out fine and we are happy.

this is not always the case. Many people have blended families it’s not exactly unusual. Putting it down to just ‘shagging’ is fairly reductive, I’m pretty sure many people get a lot more out of relationships than just shagging, I mean you can just use tinder to find people to shag can’t you? If you just want sex you can get it anywhere these days.

ambientrock · 28/01/2023 12:57

I think there's some truth in what you say @VeraLynnTookMyCoat

And that was an interesting article about the finances. I knew they weren't A list, but the current lifestyle is unsustainable .

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:58

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:54

@StarsSand

he has already offered her more than 10%. She’s turned it down many times. Their money is all now going to lawyers. You also have to remember it’s the US and he will win back Epstein credits as it’s gone on so long. The winners are lawyers really. She’s also now ruined her chances at getting spousal support as she will get a DV conviction. She also may lose a lot of custody if she carries on.

The settlement he offered was still unfair much less than what she would have got in the UK. This is one of the reasons she's so bitter, she would rather go scorched earth and they both end up with nothing.His career is in tatters. Why did he think he could hire Brad Pitt's lawyer when he was never alist ?

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:58

That 10% clause in the prenup tells you a lot about him and how likely it is that he is a victim. It suggests that he had her besotted and wrapped around his little finger from the start and despite being a mess, her heart was probably in the right place while he was more cautious.

VeraLynnTookMyCoat · 28/01/2023 12:59

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:52

Many of which have been work trips. Alice made long posts on Insta about how it was unfair she wasn’t able to go anymore or he should take the kids out of school and take them on set with him whilst he is working but then also said they hated him now anyway.

I follow BW on Insta too and they have been to Australia (work), France (work), wales (to see his parents and looks like find work), New York (work) France (work) and Australia again (work/family). She also spends a lot of time in hospital and she is also looking for acting work. She was in the Elvis movie.

He is seeing his kids from what I gather from her Twitter, is going on now and has applied for 50/50 custody. Alice only tells you what she thinks makes her look good

Hasn't she got anything better to do than follow him arround, no wonder Alice never stood a chance with her clinging onto his coat tails.

Maybe even take your kids on a 'worktrip' whilst they are on school hols, I know many people in the entertainment industry who do and don't just forget about them.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 12:59

I've just read the court papers. I do believe that Alice Evans is beyond crazy about all this. Beyond. I also don't believe that Ioan Gruffud is this wide eyed innocent who never puts a step wrong. But most of all, why does he conduct his relationship with his daughters by text? Why doesn't he speak to them on the phone like normal people do? No wonder those poor kids are totally confused by what's going on and behave badly because of it.

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:01

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:55

Thats the question but the Ioan fans can never give me a straight answer. I dislike both of them I only feel sorry for the children..

Not a Stan but can answer. He doesn’t want to take them away from her. He isn’t trying to. He is not in any way demanding she can’t have them or care for them. He is trying to share them. Could you care to explain why everything is black/white or good/bad? So if someone behaves horribly, the answer is to ruin their life and take everything away? Wouldn’t he be as bad as her if he did this? Wouldn’t a good dad/person actually want his kids to have a happy, healthy mother? Who would NOT want that? I don’t get it.

The reason why you don’t get an answer to this question is that it’s stupid question

He hasn’t accused her of being an alcoholic he said that she has been drunk, and she hit him. He also hasn’t accused her of being a narc.

MichelleScarn · 28/01/2023 13:02

JammyThing · 28/01/2023 12:27

So he should be earning enough money to keep them all, pay school fees etc but he shouldn't go away to work, which is necessary for his job.

He shouldn't have left the children with their mother while he went to away to earn a living, even though he should be paying for everything.

He shouldn't be in a relationship with someone else but since he is, she shouldn't be allowed to post any content mentioning their relationship on social media in case it provokes his abusive ex into a rage, even though it's now two years since he left.

He can't win, can he?

Yep! And of course any of her behaviour is explained with the DARVO DV ploy "look what you made me do!"

Disgraceful.

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:02

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:58

The settlement he offered was still unfair much less than what she would have got in the UK. This is one of the reasons she's so bitter, she would rather go scorched earth and they both end up with nothing.His career is in tatters. Why did he think he could hire Brad Pitt's lawyer when he was never alist ?

He had a different lawyer but I think he got a new one when things turned bad.
he tried to do a collaborative divorce first.

this isn’t the U.K., so that is the point of keeping on about it? She was 40 fucking years old when she married him, not some stupid young girl

karamazing · 28/01/2023 13:03

I don't think having two stroppy, teenage daughters who probably don't like him much living with him full-time would do wonders for his sex life with BW. He won't tempt fate by asking for full custody just in case!

ArtVandalay · 28/01/2023 13:04

She seems very unhinged and I feel very sorry for their daughters.

Ioan has been dignified throughout. It must be a bloody nightmare for him.

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 13:05

@Habber but if he's flying around for all this work- where is the money from it?

He's a somewhat famous actor who has apparently recently had jobs in Australia, France, NYC etc. but he's saying no ones paid him so he can't afford school fees?

Meanwhile his girlfriend posts numerous pool and beachside photos.

I don't know, it's a bad look. I just imagine his daughters having to move out of their home, lose their long term nanny/housekeeper (who according the Ioan's own evidence is the only reliable primary caregiver in his absence) and leave their school where they are happy- apparently because Daddy is strapped for cash- I only to go online to see him living it up with his new girlfriend.

It's insensitive.

I'm not taking Alice's side either, mind. I think they're both doing a great job of damaging their children.

hothands · 28/01/2023 13:07

karamazing · 28/01/2023 13:03

I don't think having two stroppy, teenage daughters who probably don't like him much living with him full-time would do wonders for his sex life with BW. He won't tempt fate by asking for full custody just in case!

Yeah, exactly. He doesn't want his social life curtailed. Nothing to do with trying to be a good parent or hoping that Alice, an alleged alcoholic, abusive, narcissist will somehow miraculously transform into mother of the year. He's being incredibly selfish and putting his wants before his children.

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