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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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Habber · 28/01/2023 12:08

I am not from tattle, I have seen this on twitter. Alice isn’t on tattle, she’s on twitter. I followed her because it sounded sad for her. I realise now she is absolutely a domestic abuser and I have no sympathy. There is a million million excuses everyone will invent so there is never any point talking about FACTS and the law here. He is an actor, working away. How does that make him deserving of DV, sorry? He was away earning money for his family? Alice married him knowing he was an actor and willingly signed a prenup. Ioan filed he has made her multiple generous offers she has rejected them all. Even her ex friends have said they know he offered more than he needed to, but she refused it all. So now they have nothing to split. This is of her own doing guys

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:08

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 11:52

I find the pleading poverty thing strange.

Surely he's made a lot of money over the years? He was the star of a TV filmed in Australia and sold all over the world. He was a main character in that Sarah Michelle Gellar show. He was in a marvel movie.

He must have made some money, where is it all?

Why did he agree to pay school fees and enrol daughters in a private school if he wasn't sure he could afford it? It's so unfair to them.

I think this too, she's a horrible woman but he was calculated enough to set up an unfair prenup. Kept it after the kids were born, she's 54 the chance of her getting any high paying work is over. With the restraining order he doesn't have to pay out spousal support either.

His plan may of backfired most people know more about his love life then acting career. Alice can't let it go she wants him to pay. I don't see this saga ending well it's reminding me of Betty Broderick.

hothands · 28/01/2023 12:10

It was over a year!

Wow, a whole year! 🙄

Putting that aside, nowhere have I said he deserves any of the shit Alice is piling on him, either when he was married or since he left. However, I can judge him for being a shitty dad. There's no way on earth I would have left my kids with my abuser. Absolutely none. I also wouldn't have put the needs of my new partner before my children, especially when their day to day lives were spent with someone like Alice and I barely saw them.

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:10

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 12:08

@Habber Their last round of IVF would have been 9 years ago. Are you saying he hasn't recovered financially in the last 9 years?

He's worked a lot in the last nine years. And now he's claiming he can't afford to pay for the children's school fees or nanny anymore.

he hasn’t had big movies. He’s had TV shows. Alice also did interviews during this time to say they were both out of work and it was hard finding work. The last big thing he did was Fantastic 4
he submitted all his financials so you can go look at them if you like in the links.

hothands · 28/01/2023 12:11

I don't see this saga ending well it's reminding me of Betty Broderick

I watched that again recently and this is exactly what it reminds me off.

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:12

hothands · 28/01/2023 12:10

It was over a year!

Wow, a whole year! 🙄

Putting that aside, nowhere have I said he deserves any of the shit Alice is piling on him, either when he was married or since he left. However, I can judge him for being a shitty dad. There's no way on earth I would have left my kids with my abuser. Absolutely none. I also wouldn't have put the needs of my new partner before my children, especially when their day to day lives were spent with someone like Alice and I barely saw them.

there is no suggestion he is doing this either. You can’t rip kids from their home, how would this look in a court? He is going to court. It’s taking years. Do you suggest he pulls up and kidnaps them?

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:12

Isn't there a difference between announcing you are unhappy and staying
and
announcing that you are unhappy, the marriage is over and making that very obvious through positive actions?

JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 12:18

@Habber I escaped an abusive domestic set up too, and there is no way I would have gone half way across the world to work leaving my DC with that controlling bad tempered lunatic. I do believe that AE is abusive which makes IG's selfishness even worse. When you've made the grave mistake of having children with an abuser, like I did, hands up here, I'm guilty, you don't get to carve out a great career or a new partner. Not immediately anyway. I have a JOB now and I'm lucky. No boyfriends. Loser or otherwise. My children needed me so badly after we left. We were all very fragile. no room for anything other than security and safety and stability. It's because I've been in IG's shoes sort of, that I cannot fathom that he walked away to work

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:18

Habber · 28/01/2023 12:08

I am not from tattle, I have seen this on twitter. Alice isn’t on tattle, she’s on twitter. I followed her because it sounded sad for her. I realise now she is absolutely a domestic abuser and I have no sympathy. There is a million million excuses everyone will invent so there is never any point talking about FACTS and the law here. He is an actor, working away. How does that make him deserving of DV, sorry? He was away earning money for his family? Alice married him knowing he was an actor and willingly signed a prenup. Ioan filed he has made her multiple generous offers she has rejected them all. Even her ex friends have said they know he offered more than he needed to, but she refused it all. So now they have nothing to split. This is of her own doing guys

He left his children with an alcoholic narcissistic abuser. He was away and conveniently met Bianca while filming . His mind was not on his children's safety or stability. Not it wasn't a generous settlement in the UK it would be at least 50/50 probably more as she was the primary carer. He deliberately engineered an unfair balance in finances. I hope Bianca thinks carefully if she wants to marry and have children with him , she's even more vulnerable as she has MS.

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:18

They could have split up and he could have started a new relationship in a low key way. But he didn't want to be low key. He is happy for BW to post goady content online (which makes AE blow her top). That part doesn't need to happen when there are the feelings of kids to take into account. That is what has escalated the situation out of control. That is adults putting their feelings above those of their kids and BW is catalyzing it.

PinkPupZ · 28/01/2023 12:19

anexcellentwoman · 28/01/2023 08:26

There is recent research to show that the same percentage of men and women cheat. Millennium women are more likely to cheat than men. Women are more likely to instigate divorce.

www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/relationships/a30459155/why-women-cheat/

I couldnt see the recent research just a magazine article and discussion. How many women do you know though who have left their kids and openly flaunting new lover. If you look around it seems mostly men. Maybe future generations will be different.

I do feel IG didn't put his kids high on his priorities. Swanning about on holiday etc. Any teenager having to change school would be devastated. And forcing house sale, these things won't help his relationship with his kids. Kids want to see that they are priority.

Also, why does he have to wait for an acting job. He could take a regular job in between? But seems to be gallivanting round on holidays. If he had instead paid for his kids school, this could have made a difference from daughter's POV.

hothands · 28/01/2023 12:20

there is no suggestion he is doing this either. You can’t rip kids from their home, how would this look in a court? He is going to court. It’s taking years. Do you suggest he pulls up and kidnaps them?

I would be living somewhere near them at the very least not flying all over the world with my new girlfriend and telling my kids we can't have they day out they wanted because of her. I'd also be going for full custody not joint like he is.

musingsinmidlife · 28/01/2023 12:24

JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 12:18

@Habber I escaped an abusive domestic set up too, and there is no way I would have gone half way across the world to work leaving my DC with that controlling bad tempered lunatic. I do believe that AE is abusive which makes IG's selfishness even worse. When you've made the grave mistake of having children with an abuser, like I did, hands up here, I'm guilty, you don't get to carve out a great career or a new partner. Not immediately anyway. I have a JOB now and I'm lucky. No boyfriends. Loser or otherwise. My children needed me so badly after we left. We were all very fragile. no room for anything other than security and safety and stability. It's because I've been in IG's shoes sort of, that I cannot fathom that he walked away to work

How did you financially support yourself, your ex, your kids and two households without working?

He would have ruined his professional reputation to drop out of the third series of a running TV series that he was contractually obligated to be in.

He hired Gloria and he made efforts to talk to the kids and Gloria daily.

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 12:24

I’m sure he does have an apartment near where they live. I remember Alice tweeting (I initially followed after her Lorraine interview) that one of the girls bumped into Ioan and Bianca walking their dog around the neighbourhood whilst she was out with the nanny and she freaked out about it.

JoyPeaceHealthz · 28/01/2023 12:25

@musingsinmidlife I was on benefits for a few years and I'm not ashamed of it.

JammyThing · 28/01/2023 12:27

So he should be earning enough money to keep them all, pay school fees etc but he shouldn't go away to work, which is necessary for his job.

He shouldn't have left the children with their mother while he went to away to earn a living, even though he should be paying for everything.

He shouldn't be in a relationship with someone else but since he is, she shouldn't be allowed to post any content mentioning their relationship on social media in case it provokes his abusive ex into a rage, even though it's now two years since he left.

He can't win, can he?

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 12:30

Also, I’m sure there was a conversation (maybe submitted as court evidence) that his career was failing and he couldn’t get much work in LA and his agent suggested he focus on international tv shows so that’s why he was committed to working in Australia or possibly coming back to the UK (which Alice was dead set against). And the financial problems were the reason why the eldest child was in private school but the youngest wasn’t? It was an odd set up.

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:30

Nobody said he can't do those things. But if IG/BW choose to do those things then the situation will get uglier. AE is whatever she is, no point expecting her to behave in a model way. In knowing this and still carrying on with it, it is his choice.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:31

JammyThing · 28/01/2023 12:27

So he should be earning enough money to keep them all, pay school fees etc but he shouldn't go away to work, which is necessary for his job.

He shouldn't have left the children with their mother while he went to away to earn a living, even though he should be paying for everything.

He shouldn't be in a relationship with someone else but since he is, she shouldn't be allowed to post any content mentioning their relationship on social media in case it provokes his abusive ex into a rage, even though it's now two years since he left.

He can't win, can he?

No he should have never stayed in that house. Why were they living the big LA lifestyle when he was a small bit actor ? They should have moved back to the UK where he would get more solid work in TV dramas and wouldn't have to work away so much and could have got support from his family. Especially as his ex is unhinged. He never even paid the mortgage off although he was earning. Both of them have made shitty financial decisions and the children are going to suffer being left in the situation.

PinkPupZ · 28/01/2023 12:31

anexcellentwoman · 28/01/2023 08:33

That reference was for @PinkPupZ .
There are some posters on here who are so anti men and constantly make untrue statements to support their hatred of men.
Most of us would agree that if a marriage has broken down irretrievably, it is right to be allowed a fresh start. It is cheering to see that more and more parents in the UK are 50/50 parenting so that both men and women take equal responsibility for their children.
No one should be forced to stay in an unhappy marriage ( be they male or female)

Noone should be forced to stay in an unhappy marriage but if people want to leave they should do it in the least harmful way and respecting their spouse.
They should not be flaunting other people etc and kids should come first. Keeping the kids in their home and school where possible. Not giving up on trying for contact.

Charlize43 · 28/01/2023 12:32

I think it's very telling in the Children's Custody Filing that every time he's tried to introduce an independent 3rd party, for example, child therapist Dr Lund, that Alice has put an immediate stop to it.

Viviennemary · 28/01/2023 12:32

I did follow this for a while. I think there are faults on both sides. But she has a nanny a nice house and doesn't work. He left for somebody else. Not nice. Both sound a bit selfish.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 12:36

Viviennemary · 28/01/2023 12:32

I did follow this for a while. I think there are faults on both sides. But she has a nanny a nice house and doesn't work. He left for somebody else. Not nice. Both sound a bit selfish.

This is the crux of it , IG thought he could get off unscathed finances intact with Bianca. The prenup is grossly in his favour except Alice is not the type to be quiet she's unhinged , they will both end up penniless. His acting career is over most people know him because of his divorce.

hothands · 28/01/2023 12:39

No he should have never stayed in that house. Why were they living the big LA lifestyle when he was a small bit actor ? They should have moved back to the UK where he would get more solid work in TV dramas and wouldn't have to work away so much and could have got support from his family. Especially as his ex is unhinged. He never even paid the mortgage off although he was earning. Both of them have made shitty financial decisions and the children are going to suffer being left in the situation

Yup, I never understood that either. Everyone can say that Alice was washed up and wouldn't have made it but the same goes for him. He had a couple of Hollywood breaks but if he hadn't become a big star by his age, he was never going to. Like you say, they would have been better going back to the UK as I'm sure he would have gotten much more work doing tv over here instead of trying to live the LA lifestyle. Although having said that, I don't think Alice liked his family and tried to get him as far away as possible from them. He would have had a good excuse for going back though (more work) and better stability for the kids.

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