Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

Can he though? As pointed out already he is not an 'A' lister with a packed out filming schedule, his filmography shows a steady stream of work, mostly in support roles with one or less projects a year. I have no idea what his fees are but I can't imagine he has enough star status to pick and choose what he wants to do with impunity or take a few years out.

I was looking at the images of her laughing as she went into court. It really is a worry.

I think this stopped being about the marriage ending , or even Bianca, if it ever was about that, a long time ago.

when you put it all together, I think she has something very wrong with her. The drunken selfie videos that get deleted the next morning, the crude abuse, god she was accusing him recently of spending all their money on high class sex workers on twitter recently, it’s one of the reasons she’s in court, the abuse of Bianca and urging people to go after her, the things she says to her kids, the constant hassling of him, the refusal to put her kids first, the damage she is doing.

when you put it all together it stopped being about the marriage ending a long time ago and is now about a woman who desperately needs help

if she was like this during the marriage, I can see why it ended, and it appears it was and it’s deteriorating and spiralling out of control..

I really feel sorry for the kids , it's such a shame there's no extended family there to help the girls. Just Alice who's very unstable and Ioan who's away a lot , it's so sad the girls lost Gloria as she was there for them since the baby stage.

Of course it ties into together, no woman left with 2 children doesn't think of the financial impact.

Chances are with him wanting a divorce, he's planning on marrying this younger woman.
Alice is already feeling the repercusions of that, she and the children will have to leave the family home they have known for many years, his daughter having to move schools, his finances being split between 2 homes and 2 family units.

I doubt any mother really wants that, add in to the fact now if he re marries, his inheritance for his own children may be halved.
There is also the possibility of him having more children as well.

She is highly unlikely to get any form of financial support now with the PRO and breaching it, frankly, why the fuck should anyone have to fund their abuser?

FYI the latest court docs are online. If you read those you will see that

• The children have had 3 therapy sessions in 4 months when it should have been 16 as Alice is blocking them
• Alice has repeatedly blocked the court ordered visitation
• Alice has repeatedly been present when she lets the children answer the phone - which is meant to be 3 times a week as per the court order but she’s blocked that too
• Alice continues to verbally abuse him via the phone calls
• Alice constantly calls and texts on the odd occasion she has allowed the access

She has no respect for civil or criminal court orders, is a domestic abuser and a child abuser. Who knows what else she’s been doing to them/what she’s been doing in general because those girls never get chance to confide in anyone, which is a common tactic.

Well the latest court documents are illuminating - I really hope that the upcoming court hearings get some boundaries established. This entire situation will be so damaging for the children.

If I understand it correctly, IG is also requesting that 50/50 custody starts pretty much straight away pending the trial listed for July.

An ex parte emergency custody order + intensive therapy is needed here, immediately. I suspect what IG has written this time is the tip of the iceberg.

Because there was a full time nanny?

This is neither a surprise nor unexpected. She’s been at this for years.

I cannot understand why Ioan waited an entire year to sort out contact with and therapy for the girls. Early intervention is always advised for parental alienation. I don’t get it.

If he had pursued this course of action as soon as he got back from France, I think he might have had a better chance at fighting it. I personally think his efforts are too late, and the damage has been done.

Unless the court awards him 100% custody, I don’t think he has any chance of maintaining a relationship with the girls. There is no way him and Bianca’s relationship would survive if this were to happen, though.

50/50 just isn’t going to work. The older child would presumably just leave, and the younger child would follow.

It’s such a mess.

I kinda think it’s high time to stop blaming him in the same breath as her. She’s the one causing the divide and hurt now. Yes she’s hurt, but as a parent you do the best for your children. She is not doing that. At all.

Doesn’t help that despite her deranged behaviour there’s still an attitude of “abusive mother is better than not abusive father because they haven’t seen him for a while due to abusive mother” - it makes no fucking sense.

Ella is the biggest victim in all of this. She has been parentified. She is her mothers mouth piece and will feel compelled to say what she does because she has been told to, in order to please the abuser and minimise any more abuse she will get if she is nice to her father, who she also loves. She will feel compelled to walk out of contact because her abuser has told her to. She will be taking the brunt of her mothers rages etc because she will want to protect Elsie. She will carry this shit with her forever; I know because I am an Ella.

I was raised by an Alice, so I know why IG has gone slowly with this. My father had to do the same and I’m gutted to see what 30 years later, the attitude that a mother, any mother, is better than a father. It’s not. The sooner they are removed, the better. Not running away at 18, across the country to Uni, living alone and drowning the pain in booze, removed now, at 13, placed with the other parent, a safe, warm environment, in therapy, with a court order banning contact with the abuser with criminal charges attached if contact is attempted.

She’s an abuser. She is emotionally abusing the children.

Ioan has left it too late to tackle the alienation.

I have always maintained Ioan has a part to play in his children’s hurt, but my last post wasn’t apportioning any blame, it’s just the reality of where they are, and it’s really sad.

Even if he had tackled it immediately, she still wouldn’t have complied with court orders. She isn’t complying now. She never will. She will continue to get away with not complying because of the attitude that children are better with their mother. She knows she can do whatever the fuck she wants.

Oh, I know for a fact that she wouldn’t have complied with the court orders and has NO intention of doing so.

But if he would have tackled it immediately:

1. She wouldn’t have had that extra year to work on the girls, causing further damage to the relationship.
2. Any non compliance would have been dealt with over the course of last year and he may very well have the girls in his care now.

He would have had more of an advantage intervening early, that he does currently. But, honestly, I think the damage has been done.

She will continue to get away with not complying because of the attitude that children are better with their mother.

I think the view is that the child is always better off with their primary care giver, because of the huge trauma caused by removing a child from their primary care giver.

It’s got to be weighed up. If she were physically abusing the children, they wouldn’t be in her care just now. The courts have a hard time recognising emotional abuse, never mind moving quickly enough when it comes to safeguarding.

But I really don’t know what the court will do/decide. I’m not American - is parental alienation is recognised by the courts?

Oh come on lets be real here do you honestly think Ioan wants his children to be with him full time ?

Or does he just want them on his terms, when he's available, fitting them into his new relationship and his career.

Maybe the girls have their own thoughts about their dad, they are teens, they will form their own opinions about his character and no hiding behind the law will change those opinions from forming. Maybe they are understanding of theirs mother's breakdown, maybe they blame their father, maybe they blame Bianca, maybe they blame Alice.

It doesn't stop the nightmare for them, they cannot start again and pick new parents.
@Simulacra I'm sorry you had such a terrible time with your mother but were you ever given the choice to go to your fathers, do the courts ever ask children of their prefered choice of who they wish to live with.

Will they ask in this case, will they ask Ioan and Alice's children where and who they would like to live with.
He needs to put his money where his mouth is and offer them full residency as a choice.
Maybe his and Biannca's new home will be more selubrious than Alice's new home, they may have a greater income, a nicer lifestyle, maybe those girls may want that.

Give them the option I say.

Tell you what though if I were 14 and seen my father behave as Ioan has done, I would have not been happy with him, I think as adults we believe children should be expected to understand that adults have choices, good and bad, and they are guided into being understanding of their failures.

I think time will tell that within all this the children have acted with more maturity than any of the adults in this unsavory family story.

Tell you what though if I were 14 and seen my father behave as Ioan has done, I would have not been happy with him

im sorry but exactly what has he done?

for others, the court documents are dismal reading, they show a history of abuse in the marriage, where he was belittled, abused, threatened, and of course as we can all see, this has continued once he got out. Hence rhe restraining order.

he has to keep working, and I understand why he wishes joint physical custody, as the abuse Alice levies is to him and about him, and always has been, amd I understand why removing them totally from their mother is something he’s tried to avoid, but it’s gone too far.

I do feel for the kids and their wishes need to be taken into account, I imahine it is a very very confusing time for them and likely they wish it split between both parents. At some point they are likely to tell their own story.

I hope for their sake the courts and lawyers can get this sorted , and I hope Alice ceases to block their therapy, ceases publicly abusing their father etc but I am not hopeful on Alice. I don’t think this is going to right itself, it’s been bad for far too long, so the courts need to sort it. Removing the kids from her permanently maybe where this goes.

im sorry but exactly what has he done?

The worst thing a father and husband can do, abandon his children and wife, take up with a woman half his age and humiliate his family on the world stage.

No wonder Biancca is beaming, she's watching the greatest backstabbing disloyal man and she thinks it's all for her, she thinks he loves her, she's wrong, he loves himself.
Who cares what he's entitled to do, we all are entitled to do what we want but we don't out of respect, especially for those who are close.

He's a complete narcissist and Alice has been very damaged by him, not just his recent behaviour but by his covert narcism throughout their marriage.

Sorry but that's my opinion.

But he didn’t abandon his children, he’s been fighting for joint custody and visitation from the start. And it’s the best possible thing to leave his wife, no one should stay in an abusive marriage. Man or woman.

the rest I’m not even going to bother to answer. It’s so ludicrous.

He hasn’t abandoned his children!

He’s left his awful wife and God knows why he put up with her so long.

He has abandoned them, all quite visible and for another woman. I wonder if he hadn't met Biannca whether he would still be with the 'abusive' Alice.

In fact how does anyone know if Alice was abusive during their marriage, we only have his word, the word of a known liar who has affairs.
Surely he's capable of distorting the truth.

What is the actual evidence of Alice being an abusive woman, from before this devaluing and discarding period which I'd say started in about 2018.

I'd laugh at what you put if what was happening wasn't so serious, he didn't leave his marriage for Bianca, go and read the latest court filings, in fact go and read them all.

Does anyone have a link to the latest court filings?

@HateandLove , why do you put abusive in quotes?

Are you saying you don't think she was/is abusive? That all the evidence submitted, videos, texts and even things she has posted and deleted in her own social media are doctored in some way?