Page 31 | Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

Notatallanamechange · 2023-01-28T00:46:22+00:00

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 19:10

Why did he leave the DC with her for months at a time then?

This is what I don’t understand.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 19:21

This will be my last message, I just wanted to say I'm not from tattle I'm not even that much of a fan as his I've seen Harrow which I think he's in anyway I think unless u r a professional in parent alienation and how to Co parent in that u really cannot judge just how awful he is. Or how u would have coped or done in the same situation. The parent alienation is I'm sure the main problem when it comes to trying to parent a children and I should not he ignored. I feel for all of them and hope they can heal. And get support.

Habber · 30/01/2023 19:30

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 19:10

Why did he leave the DC with her for months at a time then?

This is what I don’t understand.

It’s only you guys here who are harping on about him removing the DC, he isn’t trying to remove them from her. They love her, she is their mother, he hasn’t indicated at any time that they are mortal danger or she is neglecting them or that he wanted to take full custody. Her behaviour online is absolutely unacceptable and I am sure she is doing damage to them emotionally by constantly denigrating Ioan to them but if he had concerns about their day to day welfare he would have involved CPS or got an emergency order.

Why does it have to be utterly black and white? She seems to be feeding them, getting them to school sometimes and is meeting their basic needs. Not ideal, she needs to do a lot better than that in order to keep them with her long term especially emotionally and more importantly they seem to WANT to be with her right now.

He never called her an alcoholic and he never called her unstable, he’s never asked for a psych evaluation. She is a not nice person and bitter, spiteful and cruel. He said she had got drunk and hit him while he was there and he was sober. She’s obviously intoxicated online sometimes too. This doesn’t necessarily meet safeguarding thresholds as she’s obviously farming out the kids most of the time to friends houses or their on/off nanny. She’s lazy in bed day and doesn’t work. Spends all day online. Lies about money. Likes fighting with people. She also probably buys the DC whatever they want, lets them stay up late, eat what they want and mess about doing fun girly shit (she is always going on about this). She is utterly pompous and arrogant, I cannot stand her for lots of reasons, not just Ioan she was awful and overbearing well before they broke up.

He was unhappy, he told her he was, they couldn’t make it work, he left, she continues to abuse him via the DC and in public. She also may be in her own way, as much of a loving mother as she is emotionally capable of. Parental alienation is very difficult to prove and hard to fight. It is only people online haranguing him for ‘leaving them behind’ when he hasn’t indicated he intends or needs to remove them from her.

she needs to stop what she’s doing because she is in danger of really ruining her life. She is also harming her DC long term. Their marriage issues should never be put onto the kids the way it has been.

the worst part of this is Alice fighting the concept of something, rather than the reality of it. She could share custody, find work, get time to herself, raise the kids her way on her time. But no, she cannot relinquish control of the situation so she will rather lose it all. Who does that?

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 19:32

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 19:21

This will be my last message, I just wanted to say I'm not from tattle I'm not even that much of a fan as his I've seen Harrow which I think he's in anyway I think unless u r a professional in parent alienation and how to Co parent in that u really cannot judge just how awful he is. Or how u would have coped or done in the same situation. The parent alienation is I'm sure the main problem when it comes to trying to parent a children and I should not he ignored. I feel for all of them and hope they can heal. And get support.

You are the one who implied because we don't think Ioan is father of the year we must be upset because he got a younger girlfriend. I couldn't care less if his girlfriend was 18 or 89. The fact is he delayed his visitation because he was on holiday with a new girlfriend. He left his kids with a supposed alcoholic abuser and didn't try all that hard to put them first.

Habber · 30/01/2023 19:36

@Rosiefifi for the last time though, it is people online who have made these accusations of her being an alcoholic, not Ioan. It is speculation. She has seemed much more sober in recent months. At one point she was a complete mess all the time. He has outlined the abuse towards him and his GF which led to a restraining order. He has not accused her of abusing their children

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 19:38

Habber · 30/01/2023 19:30

It’s only you guys here who are harping on about him removing the DC, he isn’t trying to remove them from her. They love her, she is their mother, he hasn’t indicated at any time that they are mortal danger or she is neglecting them or that he wanted to take full custody. Her behaviour online is absolutely unacceptable and I am sure she is doing damage to them emotionally by constantly denigrating Ioan to them but if he had concerns about their day to day welfare he would have involved CPS or got an emergency order.

Why does it have to be utterly black and white? She seems to be feeding them, getting them to school sometimes and is meeting their basic needs. Not ideal, she needs to do a lot better than that in order to keep them with her long term especially emotionally and more importantly they seem to WANT to be with her right now.

He never called her an alcoholic and he never called her unstable, he’s never asked for a psych evaluation. She is a not nice person and bitter, spiteful and cruel. He said she had got drunk and hit him while he was there and he was sober. She’s obviously intoxicated online sometimes too. This doesn’t necessarily meet safeguarding thresholds as she’s obviously farming out the kids most of the time to friends houses or their on/off nanny. She’s lazy in bed day and doesn’t work. Spends all day online. Lies about money. Likes fighting with people. She also probably buys the DC whatever they want, lets them stay up late, eat what they want and mess about doing fun girly shit (she is always going on about this). She is utterly pompous and arrogant, I cannot stand her for lots of reasons, not just Ioan she was awful and overbearing well before they broke up.

He was unhappy, he told her he was, they couldn’t make it work, he left, she continues to abuse him via the DC and in public. She also may be in her own way, as much of a loving mother as she is emotionally capable of. Parental alienation is very difficult to prove and hard to fight. It is only people online haranguing him for ‘leaving them behind’ when he hasn’t indicated he intends or needs to remove them from her.

she needs to stop what she’s doing because she is in danger of really ruining her life. She is also harming her DC long term. Their marriage issues should never be put onto the kids the way it has been.

the worst part of this is Alice fighting the concept of something, rather than the reality of it. She could share custody, find work, get time to herself, raise the kids her way on her time. But no, she cannot relinquish control of the situation so she will rather lose it all. Who does that?

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He submitted evidence she called the eldest daughter a bitch and was drunk on her birthday. He implied in the court documents she did no active parenting and Gloria did most of it. Yet he thought she was safe to leave the kids with her for months on end. There's no Gloria anymore and they are still there while he was on holiday delaying his visitation. He doesn't seem exactly worried does he ?

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 19:41

Habber · 30/01/2023 19:36

@Rosiefifi for the last time though, it is people online who have made these accusations of her being an alcoholic, not Ioan. It is speculation. She has seemed much more sober in recent months. At one point she was a complete mess all the time. He has outlined the abuse towards him and his GF which led to a restraining order. He has not accused her of abusing their children

See still twisting it so Ioan has no blame whatsoever. He literally put about about her poor parenting in the court documents !!

Habber · 30/01/2023 19:42

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 19:38

He submitted evidence she called the eldest daughter a bitch and was drunk on her birthday. He implied in the court documents she did no active parenting and Gloria did most of it. Yet he thought she was safe to leave the kids with her for months on end. There's no Gloria anymore and they are still there while he was on holiday delaying his visitation. He doesn't seem exactly worried does he ?

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He submitted a recording of a row that was about him in the early days of the split. He has pushed and pushed for the kids to do therapy. He has paid for it all and nominated himself to take them to the sessions. She is meant to facilitate some of it too. He also is now aware that Alice has changed her tactics, initially she wasn’t able to get the DC on her side as they were confused and still wanted their father but now she has got at least the eldest one to turn on him, I imagine these rows are much much less. Still, possibly not meeting safeguarding threshold for an emergency removal

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 19:47

@Habber

Oh, come on. You know fine well that he’s heavily implied that she’s an unfit mother.

he isn’t trying to remove them from her. They love her, she is their mother, he hasn’t indicated at any time that they are mortal danger or she is neglecting them or that he wanted to take full custody.

Or maybe he isn’t trying to remove them from her because having the children full time wouldn’t fit with his current lifestyle.

Bianca relapses due to stress. Can you imagine what having two hostile teenage girls suddenly living with them full time would be like for Bianca.

I highly doubt their relationship would survive.

I’m not sure anyone is as noble as you would have us believe Ioan is.

MarshaMelrose · 30/01/2023 19:54

Habber · 30/01/2023 19:36

@Rosiefifi for the last time though, it is people online who have made these accusations of her being an alcoholic, not Ioan. It is speculation. She has seemed much more sober in recent months. At one point she was a complete mess all the time. He has outlined the abuse towards him and his GF which led to a restraining order. He has not accused her of abusing their children

Didn't he say in his custody filing that he felt she had a questionable relationship with alcohol and Ambien? I read that as her having a dependence on alcohol and prescribed medication. What do you think he meant by that?⁸

Habber · 30/01/2023 20:05

@Vivi0
Take the emotion out, go legal route.

he chose to submit those documents as part of the restraining order request. I don’t think he figured that it would get into the daily Mail like it did. in his request his lawyer used all of the strongest examples they had. They got the RO.

He hasn’t submitted a custody ex parte and he has a very good experienced lawyer. Someone did call a welfare check apparently but nothing was found of concern. Since her nanny left she has not been as obviously intoxicated online tbh and has dialled it back.

Ioan has decided to use professional therapists to try to get things back on track. I also imagine behind the scenes she knows everyone is watching her now and she is being careful. If her kids rat her out for anything bad to Ioan or therapists this would damage her chances. Alice is not completely stupid. She is performative and reckless online. This doesn’t mean she is always in RL

In his custody request he is using the opportunity to show himself as a caring father and not that she is a bad mother. This is the legal advice he will be following. Using the court to score points against the other parent isn’t seen as favourable. He is also more aware now of what’s going to leak out. He will be able to use all of the therapy reports in his case too. He will likely get 50/50. He has a good chance. It’s taken a long time though and some of that is down to him, and some of it is down to Alice not cooperating.

Alice is doing a fine job all on her own of looking terrible, with little evidence of Ioan being terrible apart from the GF/holidays. A judge in court is not going to tell Ioan off about getting a girlfriend and going on holiday, even if you think he should.

I don’t think you should be under any illusion that he isn’t aware of exactly how his DC feel about him. He seems to know, which is why he is trying this route. He doesn’t seem to be a bully like Alice, but he does seem to be naive and hesitant. I don’t think he’s that confident and he’s not willing to deal with her directly, which is driving her crazy. I would hate this but it’s her own fault.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 20:22

Habber · 30/01/2023 20:05

@Vivi0
Take the emotion out, go legal route.

he chose to submit those documents as part of the restraining order request. I don’t think he figured that it would get into the daily Mail like it did. in his request his lawyer used all of the strongest examples they had. They got the RO.

He hasn’t submitted a custody ex parte and he has a very good experienced lawyer. Someone did call a welfare check apparently but nothing was found of concern. Since her nanny left she has not been as obviously intoxicated online tbh and has dialled it back.

Ioan has decided to use professional therapists to try to get things back on track. I also imagine behind the scenes she knows everyone is watching her now and she is being careful. If her kids rat her out for anything bad to Ioan or therapists this would damage her chances. Alice is not completely stupid. She is performative and reckless online. This doesn’t mean she is always in RL

In his custody request he is using the opportunity to show himself as a caring father and not that she is a bad mother. This is the legal advice he will be following. Using the court to score points against the other parent isn’t seen as favourable. He is also more aware now of what’s going to leak out. He will be able to use all of the therapy reports in his case too. He will likely get 50/50. He has a good chance. It’s taken a long time though and some of that is down to him, and some of it is down to Alice not cooperating.

Alice is doing a fine job all on her own of looking terrible, with little evidence of Ioan being terrible apart from the GF/holidays. A judge in court is not going to tell Ioan off about getting a girlfriend and going on holiday, even if you think he should.

I don’t think you should be under any illusion that he isn’t aware of exactly how his DC feel about him. He seems to know, which is why he is trying this route. He doesn’t seem to be a bully like Alice, but he does seem to be naive and hesitant. I don’t think he’s that confident and he’s not willing to deal with her directly, which is driving her crazy. I would hate this but it’s her own fault.

Yeah he chose Brad Pitt's lawyer but doesn't have any money, Do you think that's a wise decision ? Do you honestly think he's putting his children first in this saga ? It took him a long time to even file for formal visitation Do you not think he has any flaws ? Honestly I don't think he wants full or proper 50 percent custody as it would impact on his relationship and holidays. He knows it doesn't make his image look good to not try to get it, thats why he's suddenly going for it.
I think his main goal is shutting Alice up so it doesn't further impact on his career. I think he wouldn't bother with shared custody if Alice had been quiet about it all.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 20:26

Apart from the girlfriend and holidays. 😩 Now I can't stand Alice but at least she's there even lay in bed on Ambien and booze. Ioan couldn't be bothered to go for his scheduled visitation as he was on holiday, I don't think the judge will love that.

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 30/01/2023 20:56

Just saw this on Crazy Days and Nights

Blind Item #8

I don't doubt that the now ex of this foreign born A-/B+ list actor trashes him every chance she gets, but let us not forget one thing. He pulled his kids (who he hasn't seen in nearly a year) from their private school, so he could fund the film of his new younger girlfriend.

Blind Item #11

The housing expenses listed in a recent court filing by an A-/B+ list actor with an impossible looking name to pronounce. He is using numbers that are wildly inflated if he really did purchase the home prior to marriage. He also has been offered several jobs, he just turned them down so he could screw over his ex some more.

And this excerpt from Blind Gossip, the beginning is about AE's alleged affair on Vampire Diariies:

Actor has been having an affair for the past couple of years. He wants a divorce. And Actress is now using his affair to wring out maximum publicity and maximum sympathy for herself on the road to divorce.

Not sure it's true of course but a PP said they'd read about Alice's alleged affair on there and insisted it was true. Missed out that bit about IG though!

I have to say if the stuff about IG is true, pulling his DC out of their schools because he funded BW's film and turned down work to shaft their mother, I think that's worse than AE trashing him on SM!

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 21:09

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 30/01/2023 20:56

Just saw this on Crazy Days and Nights

Blind Item #8

I don't doubt that the now ex of this foreign born A-/B+ list actor trashes him every chance she gets, but let us not forget one thing. He pulled his kids (who he hasn't seen in nearly a year) from their private school, so he could fund the film of his new younger girlfriend.

Blind Item #11

The housing expenses listed in a recent court filing by an A-/B+ list actor with an impossible looking name to pronounce. He is using numbers that are wildly inflated if he really did purchase the home prior to marriage. He also has been offered several jobs, he just turned them down so he could screw over his ex some more.

And this excerpt from Blind Gossip, the beginning is about AE's alleged affair on Vampire Diariies:

Actor has been having an affair for the past couple of years. He wants a divorce. And Actress is now using his affair to wring out maximum publicity and maximum sympathy for herself on the road to divorce.

Not sure it's true of course but a PP said they'd read about Alice's alleged affair on there and insisted it was true. Missed out that bit about IG though!

I have to say if the stuff about IG is true, pulling his DC out of their schools because he funded BW's film and turned down work to shaft their mother, I think that's worse than AE trashing him on SM!

The plot doth thickens I'm sure if the same people are insisting the blind about Alice's affair is true the one about Ioan must be also true 🤣🤣🤣

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2023 21:11

The plot doth thickens I'm sure if the same people are insisting the blind about Alice's affair is true the one about Ioan must be also true 🤣🤣🤣

I assumed from the transcript where he's sat on the bed like a gormless numpty while she goes off on him and the kid, that she DID have an affair and was practically admitting to such mid-froth.

Truelive · 30/01/2023 21:20

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 28/01/2023 10:13

But he picked her as the mother of his children. He should have ridden (separated if need be but still in daily presence for his daughters) that out till they were adults rather than distance himself and take up with a young woman.

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Wow, just wow! What great advice. Stay in a dead, loveless and quite possibly abusive marriage until the children are grown up. And then leave, so your kids find out their parents have been living a lie. Which they probably knew for a long time anyway, as kids are not deaf, dumb and blind. Great role modeling and setting of examples for their future relationships. Staying „for the sake of the children“ is disastrous for everyone.

Truelive · 30/01/2023 21:32

CyberSpaceTraveller · 30/01/2023 17:41

Has Alice even been arrested yet? Not seen anything in the news and it's been a few days now. Surely they know where she is, shouldn't be that hard to find her?

TBH I can't imagine the mentality of a man who wants to see the mother of his children arrested after obviously going through a massive, very public breakdown after he left her. The primary carer of his DC no less.

Does anyone know if the DC are with him? If they're still with her I'd be very concerned that the threat of a very public arrest would tip her even more over the edge.

What was she doing to justify arrest? Still talking about him (obviously he needs to shut her up as it's harming his career) or did she carry out/threaten violence or something?

Seems very over the top to me or am I missing something?

So you think it‘s OK for her to tweet that Ioan hates Ella (the older daughter)? Or that he and his partner are plotting her (Alice‘s) death? Just a couple of examples just prior to her being charged with multiple violations of the DVRO.

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2023 21:35

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 20:26

Apart from the girlfriend and holidays. 😩 Now I can't stand Alice but at least she's there even lay in bed on Ambien and booze. Ioan couldn't be bothered to go for his scheduled visitation as he was on holiday, I don't think the judge will love that.

They'd be better off in the care of a pack of feral cats than AE.

Truelive · 30/01/2023 21:42

Somebatshitteryonhere · 30/01/2023 18:13

I’m utterly appalled at the posters who are so obsessed that this man has moved on and got himself another partner , a younger slimmer one to boot, that they will absolve any form of abuse in the home.

it is like pavlovs dog. Ring the “Younger girlfriend” bell and the salivating starts.

for some it Really is the ultimate unforgivable cardinal sin, even when no form of cheating has ever been collaborated, when they likely got together a year after the split, when a restraining order is in place, the children in court ordered therapy due to the mothers behaviour , when non compliance of visiting rights evidenced, the abuse and alcoholism documented, her own videos and comments on social media collaborating it for years . It’s still, still, “but yeah he got himself a younger thinner girlfriend” so fuck him.

im sure there were faults on both sides, but this Pavlov dog reaction that Alice has exploited is disturbing.

Spot on comment.

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 21:45

They'd be better off in the care of a pack of feral cats than AE.

Well what do you think is best for these children.
For the parents to split assets and Ioan having them full time, he could pack in work and be there for them 100% and Alice could concentrate getting her career going after many years.

I really cannot understand the vitriol and cruelty displayed towards this woman, many Alice haters would hate for their own mother's to be treated with such comtempt from their fathers.

So much hate, her alledged abuse is reactive anger from being so badly treated anyone can see that.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 21:46

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 21:45

They'd be better off in the care of a pack of feral cats than AE.

Well what do you think is best for these children.
For the parents to split assets and Ioan having them full time, he could pack in work and be there for them 100% and Alice could concentrate getting her career going after many years.

I really cannot understand the vitriol and cruelty displayed towards this woman, many Alice haters would hate for their own mother's to be treated with such comtempt from their fathers.

So much hate, her alledged abuse is reactive anger from being so badly treated anyone can see that.

He wouldn't do that it impacts too much on time with his girlfriend and jetting on holidays.

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 21:56

He wouldn't do that it impacts too much on time with his girlfriend and jetting on holidays.

Everyone knows that but Ioan could have a career break till the girls have finished college and then pick his career back up, just as everyone expects Alice to do.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 30/01/2023 22:38

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 21:56

He wouldn't do that it impacts too much on time with his girlfriend and jetting on holidays.

Everyone knows that but Ioan could have a career break till the girls have finished college and then pick his career back up, just as everyone expects Alice to do.

Good point.

DaintyDinah24 · 31/01/2023 11:12

I feel sorry for anyone who has a break up and has to come to terms with the fact that someone they love no longer wants to be with them.. I imagine a lot of us know how that feels...BUT, I think Alice's motives are more about loss of money and control.