Page 29 | Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

Notatallanamechange · 2023-01-28T00:46:22+00:00

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 15:04

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 14:56

I suppose much on this dissusion depends on people chosing who they believe to be the abusive one in the marriage.

I can see Alice who was once a confident, intellegent and capable person has basically been reduced to rubble and is I think needs help in coping with an ongoing, chronic nervous breakdown. Her children are living with this, they will grow up quickly having to endure such pain in the family home, poor children.

I really can't see how people have come to the conclusion that Ioan is a saint and Alice is an evil abuser.
Personally I don't think Ioan has been very kind to this woman for a very long time, long before the affair and divorce.

No no Alice is a nasty arsehole , her daughter videoed her on her daughters birthday of all days. She was drunk and calling her daughter a bitch and being incredibly nasty. She's been fighting on twitter for years , she's rude and abrasive. She will never change , Ioan I have hope he will get his act together stop being selfish and putting his girlfriend first over his two traumatised daughters.

Sindonym · 30/01/2023 15:06

I agree with you HateandLove. It’s why I said I thought it was all very sad in my first post. I don’t think Alice is very well equipped at the moment to deal with it all because she is unstable but she is also easy to stitch up.

Incidentally I am a similar age to Alice and the menopause is bloody awful. I am getting off relatively lightly - my complaints are largely physical but I have close friends who had had awful time emotionally & with mood. Can’t imagine chucking in a husband running off with a younger model - especially living in a place like LA & mixing in showbiz circles (no thanks).

WaddleAway · 30/01/2023 15:13

Sindonym · 30/01/2023 15:06

I agree with you HateandLove. It’s why I said I thought it was all very sad in my first post. I don’t think Alice is very well equipped at the moment to deal with it all because she is unstable but she is also easy to stitch up.

Incidentally I am a similar age to Alice and the menopause is bloody awful. I am getting off relatively lightly - my complaints are largely physical but I have close friends who had had awful time emotionally & with mood. Can’t imagine chucking in a husband running off with a younger model - especially living in a place like LA & mixing in showbiz circles (no thanks).

Her behaviour has been going on for years, not just since the split.

Habber · 30/01/2023 15:16

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 14:56

I suppose much on this dissusion depends on people chosing who they believe to be the abusive one in the marriage.

I can see Alice who was once a confident, intellegent and capable person has basically been reduced to rubble and is I think needs help in coping with an ongoing, chronic nervous breakdown. Her children are living with this, they will grow up quickly having to endure such pain in the family home, poor children.

I really can't see how people have come to the conclusion that Ioan is a saint and Alice is an evil abuser.
Personally I don't think Ioan has been very kind to this woman for a very long time, long before the affair and divorce.

This contradicts Alice herself. She said he was amazing, her soulmate, her forever guy and loved him, he was perfect.

Yet she was threatening to divorce him and continually upsetting him by doing things like telling him he was a failure and how much everyone else hated him

so your theory on this is way out

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 15:17

In most cases of the abuse reported of Alice, even past abuses I can see a deeply neglected woman who has been fighting for years for her h to protect her and not humiliate her by his selfish behaviour, towards her and her children.

I think many women do this, they present a front of oh he's a wonderful dad and h, when really their h's motives are very self centered and selfish.
Alice is just telling her truth now, understanding that truth of a very one sided relationship where Mr Wonderful had his own way.

I don't see a sweet, innocent man here, I see a man who uses and tiangulates others to fight his battles, he's presenting himself as the victim whilst the actual victim wriths in agony.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 15:27

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 15:17

In most cases of the abuse reported of Alice, even past abuses I can see a deeply neglected woman who has been fighting for years for her h to protect her and not humiliate her by his selfish behaviour, towards her and her children.

I think many women do this, they present a front of oh he's a wonderful dad and h, when really their h's motives are very self centered and selfish.
Alice is just telling her truth now, understanding that truth of a very one sided relationship where Mr Wonderful had his own way.

I don't see a sweet, innocent man here, I see a man who uses and tiangulates others to fight his battles, he's presenting himself as the victim whilst the actual victim wriths in agony.

No Alice isn't a victim her two kids are. She's done some very bad things , made this divorce very ugly and has not considered her children's feelings. There is a chance she could go to prison because she's so angry at Ioan. You have to suck up the pain and move on for the sake of your children. She has shown no intention of moving on , she will now get a very poor payout because the money will go to the lawyers. Ioan says he's not working anymore she's going to have to prepare to get any job to support them.

I hope Ioan stops going on non work jaunts abroad with his girlfriend and actually focuses on building a relationship with the girls individually who really need him right now. I really hope he won't push the blended family thing quickly as they are so vulnerable right now.

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 15:37

We are all entitled to our opinions and there are certain things that don't sit right with me with Ioan's bhaviour, we all know nothing really, guessing about their marriage, all we can see now are the facts as they stand, man leaves marriage, ends up living with a younger woman.

He just doesn't seem particularly protective of his family, his family in the public eye.

Some of the things such as discussing the nature of that proposal on a talk show, how on earth would that show his partner in a good light, not necssary if he loved her, must have been humiliating for her and that was years back.
And the public information about his daughter stealing, who disclosed that, ffs that's a betrayal when he's in the public eye, his own daughter !

I'd never forgive my dad doing that.
Certain posts by Biannca, the one with smeared lipstick which they deny wasn't aimed at Alice, shocking but then again I think he's using Bianca just as much with her immaturity in not understanding the delicacy of the situation.

Instead of calming the situation all of his actions seem inflamatory, punishing and provocative.

Strange man whose idea of loyalty to his children seems warped to me and no doubt to many people who adore their children.

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 16:02

Even the abuse aimed at Alice for taking pictures of him in the home has been turned round to her being abusive, wthf, Alice knew there was a threat years back, her posts were a warning that he had a wife and children, she knew years back he was detaching, and his miserable face on those instagram pictures may as well have been him looking down the camara and saying don't worry Bianca I'm having a shit time at home with the wife.

Premeditated behaviour, I think quite shrewed, even with Biannca, if this 2nd relationship doesn't work out Biannca will be presented with the blame, he's loading the gun with Biancca shooting it.

Both women would be wise to forget him in my opinion, the press seem to be lining Biancca up to tell all, garnering sympathy towards her in the hopes she'll spill the facts, she's riding high at the moment but for some reason I don't see this ending well for her.

Her recent posts on u tube with the Baddas Babes do make her look quite naive.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 16:31

dmme · 30/01/2023 11:52

I don't know if it was mentioned in here before but it's not that Bianca can never get exposed to others. Ioan's point was that she was taking medication (steroids I believe, she mentioned it on Insta) that makes you vulnerable for a couple of days (she takes them when she is relapsing, so very rarely). That on times that she isnt taking those medications she is travelling is a pretty irrelevant argument that is keep getting forwarded here. Ioan could have suggested however to do this theme park visit on a different date, but we don't know how this convo continued, Alice cropped one of his responses out (you can see that he replied). I also don't agree that he should have moved a week into a hotel (or her), seems a bit unreasonable for something that can be easily rescheduled.

I also don't think the childs behavior should be minimized and no, I dont blame her. She stole money, hacked his IG and posted horrible comments, and then threatened CPS over him not paying her expensive school. There was also a video Alice posted once on IG that showed her facetiming the kid while she was at her fathers, and she acted up over not getting her favourite drink. Alice was recording this over a second phone. Sure, it's a cry for help, but there is no doubt in my mind that his lawyers will have told him that this child has a high chance to be used by her mother to come up with bigger accusations if in his custody. So it's very reasonable to me to insist on therapy before resuming to see the child. And I believe this happened a few months ago actually.

In that sense I cant hold that UK trip against him. From what it appears his lawyers were negotiating therapy at the time (and got it months later), he was not going to see them anyway, so why not visiting family? I think the OZ trip is more problematic as it fell right when he finally got therapy and visitation, but if it was scheduled I kinda get it, he could have made the sacrifice here though imo, but in the grand picture it really doesnt make a difference if they see him after 15 months again or after 15 months and 1 week, but w/e. All other trips were work trips.

Obviously he is not perfect, moving so quickly together with the girlfriend was for example not smart, even if the damage was already done way earlier. I'm sure he is a flawed father, like most are, but some criticism here is pretty stupid. In my opinion it's bad parenting if you think you should do everything a child wants (especially one that threatens and when it affects someones health), and contrary to what people believe you are not a good parent if you break laws or put yourself in danger of legal action in order to see your child. You cannot just take the kids and leave if the other party doesnt let you, and the bar to remove children from a parents care is extremely high in California, especially for wealthy people who have a nanny, which is why it almost always ends in 50/50 custody. I also don't think you can hold it against him that he tried to settle out of court first, it saves a lot of pain, like having to reveal all those awful things in court documents. And it's also not wrong to file for joint custody, it shows a level of cooperation, and with the charges against her it will be difficult for Alice anyway.

Having said all this, while I certainly don't think that Ioan is a saint, it does concern me where the focus of this discussion is. Even if it's casually prefaced in some posts here that Alice is terrible it then moves on to exclusively trash her victim, her role in the struggles Ioan and the kids have in their relationship seems to be greatly underestimated.

U have summed up what I feel too.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 30/01/2023 16:34

In my opinion, Alice is batty and showed extremely poor judgment on social media over the past two years. I understand she was trying to take a "I won't go away quietly" stance but it was overdone. She's eroded a lot of sympathy she might otherwise have earned and severely damaged her employment prospects.

However, the St. Ioan persona is a bit much. All of the excuses for him going overseas, etc. are bullshit. If he really, really were prioritizing his daughters, he would have foregone the hotshot jobs in Australia and obtained local employment

Maybe that wouldn't be acting, well, too bad. When he chose to sire two kids, his dreams became lower in priority. A decent recruiter could find him a reasonably well-paid PR job, voice work, presenter work, special events work, hospitality, coaching, etc. in Los Angeles. He could rent a room somewhere to be close to his girls. Maybe he could study at night to qualify in accounting or some other practical credential.

And put his own love life on the back burner. He doesn't "need" a girlfriend right now as much as his daughters "need" a father nearby.

The theme park excuse was utter bullshit. Find somewhere else to live if your living arrangements affect your ability to do things with your daughter. Or at least have the grace to come up with a better excuse than "I need to keep my girlfriend safe."

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 16:45

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 12:20

I think you would be quite surprised, then, by advice from therapists for someone in Ioan’s situation.

Your situation is completely different, as I’m assuming you are an active parent, seeing your child daily and are in a position to hold strong boundaries.

Ioan is in no position to do so. He would only be creating more distance.

He has to re-establish a relationship first. Strong boundaries are not conducive to this. He has to tread gently. And show love. Not punishment.

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How how on earth can he re establish a healthy relationship with his children when the other parent is using actively manipulation to alienate him. This was not something she did, then stopped and he has become a crap dad in some eyes. He continuing to have his daughters manipulated by her. He's having to deal with an incredibly toxic and difficult situation. But he's somehow awful , it's so bizarre to me the comple lack of consideration to her abuse of him.

omgwhat · 30/01/2023 16:49

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 15:17

In most cases of the abuse reported of Alice, even past abuses I can see a deeply neglected woman who has been fighting for years for her h to protect her and not humiliate her by his selfish behaviour, towards her and her children.

I think many women do this, they present a front of oh he's a wonderful dad and h, when really their h's motives are very self centered and selfish.
Alice is just telling her truth now, understanding that truth of a very one sided relationship where Mr Wonderful had his own way.

I don't see a sweet, innocent man here, I see a man who uses and tiangulates others to fight his battles, he's presenting himself as the victim whilst the actual victim wriths in agony.

This isn't the case here though. Just two weeks (!) ago she claimed under oath in court that he was amazing/perfect etc and then suddenly he was gone. She has multiple times on her twitter claimed that for her divorcing is abuse, it's quite clear that Alice was never abused. There is zero evidence for this, while there is a massive amount against her. so then claim that she is the actual victim is quite something!

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 16:56

How how on earth can he re establish a healthy relationship with his
children when the other parent is using actively manipulation to
alienate him. This was not something she did, then stopped and he has
become a crap dad in some eyes. He continuing to have his daughters
manipulated by her. He's having to deal with an incredibly toxic and
difficult situation. But he's somehow awful , it's so bizarre to me the
comple lack of consideration to her abuse of him.

So you believe he was always an excellent dad.

Ok, many men are selfish put their careers, love life ahead of their children.

I would say he'll probably be a great dad by the time he's 70 and doesn't have the ability to play anymore.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 17:08

HateandLove · 30/01/2023 16:56

How how on earth can he re establish a healthy relationship with his
children when the other parent is using actively manipulation to
alienate him. This was not something she did, then stopped and he has
become a crap dad in some eyes. He continuing to have his daughters
manipulated by her. He's having to deal with an incredibly toxic and
difficult situation. But he's somehow awful , it's so bizarre to me the
comple lack of consideration to her abuse of him.

So you believe he was always an excellent dad.

Ok, many men are selfish put their careers, love life ahead of their children.

I would say he'll probably be a great dad by the time he's 70 and doesn't have the ability to play anymore.

I've never once said he's an amazing dad. So please do u assume what I say. To be frank we have absolutely no idea how truely he feels or acts becuase we r only getting what alice has choosen to put out on twitter or Instagram or what is in court documents. I am saying he isn't able to re establish a healthy relationship with his children while his ex is still manipulating them. Woman who have to navigate this I'm sure would not be so criticised I don't belive . I think that's obvious from all the 'a woman' this 'a woman ' that that I keep reading

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 17:08

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 16:45

How how on earth can he re establish a healthy relationship with his children when the other parent is using actively manipulation to alienate him. This was not something she did, then stopped and he has become a crap dad in some eyes. He continuing to have his daughters manipulated by her. He's having to deal with an incredibly toxic and difficult situation. But he's somehow awful , it's so bizarre to me the comple lack of consideration to her abuse of him.

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Yes Ioan has been abused but so have his daughters who are CHILDREN !!The children have no extended family support , Gloria has gone they have lost their school , now their house will be going. Alice could end up going to prison. The children bless them are going through absolute hell yet some people seem more concerned about Ioan getting to live his best life Vs making sure his children are emotionally supported. He's been an absent father who has prioritised his love life over his damaged kids, even when he could have had visitation he's mentioned his girlfriend or gone abroad which wasn't even a work trip delaying visitation.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 17:10

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 17:08

I've never once said he's an amazing dad. So please do u assume what I say. To be frank we have absolutely no idea how truely he feels or acts becuase we r only getting what alice has choosen to put out on twitter or Instagram or what is in court documents. I am saying he isn't able to re establish a healthy relationship with his children while his ex is still manipulating them. Woman who have to navigate this I'm sure would not be so criticised I don't belive . I think that's obvious from all the 'a woman' this 'a woman ' that that I keep reading

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Yawn , a woman would be criticised for leaving her kids with a supposed alcoholic abuser , quickly getting a new partner moving in together then delaying visitation by going on holiday.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 17:18

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 17:08

Yes Ioan has been abused but so have his daughters who are CHILDREN !!The children have no extended family support , Gloria has gone they have lost their school , now their house will be going. Alice could end up going to prison. The children bless them are going through absolute hell yet some people seem more concerned about Ioan getting to live his best life Vs making sure his children are emotionally supported. He's been an absent father who has prioritised his love life over his damaged kids, even when he could have had visitation he's mentioned his girlfriend or gone abroad which wasn't even a work trip delaying visitation.

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Just because people are discussing him doesn't mean they don't feel for his children.
'Gettihg to live his best life' what a ridiculous comment. U are only seeing what Alice has posted u have absolutely no idea how he feels. He is going through the courts to get the right support for his children. He has been trying to parent while his ex is still alienating him and abusing him and his gf. If he was as crap parent as some like to say on here I would assume he wouldn't be bothered at all and would have swan off into the sunset with his new gf! No he's fighting through the courts , so actual boundaries can be put in place and real Consequences can happen when them boundaries are not kept. Hence the search warrant

xJoyPeaceHealthx · 30/01/2023 17:24

As a mother who escaped an abusive x partner, I would have put up with the abuse if I couldn't have got to safety. I certainly wouldn't have left them with him. This is why it's mothers who are more trapped by an abusive relationship. I'm not saying Ioan is the devil and I do think Alice is abusive and nuts, but he left, not jus tthe house, but the country. It's not how I handled it. I had far less money too.

hothands · 30/01/2023 17:24

'Gettihg to live his best life' what a ridiculous comment. U are only seeing what Alice has posted u have absolutely no idea how he feels

Yep, he looks so, so sad in these photos from October, like he's really missing his kids.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11330211/amp/Ioan-Gruffudds-girlfriend-Bianca-Wallace-shares-loved-snaps.htmll*

Imagine how his children feel when they see stuff like this.

MarshaMelrose · 30/01/2023 17:26

I've been critical of Gruffudd's behaviour and I stand by what I've said. He needs to get his finger out, lower his sights, and get a job. I also suspect his relationship with Wallace started in summer of 2020, round about the time he was telling Evans he'd lost interest in her sexually. Whether their actual physical affair had started then or he waited til after they'd split, I don't know.

But despite that, I don't know how anyone can defend Evans' behaviour. Affair or no affair, he fell out of love and their marriage was done. She can feel ill from the menopause, grieve, cry, shout expletives. That's her right. But not in front of the children. Both of them have said that the other was a good parent. As Judge Judy says, you've got to love your children more than you hate your partner. The children need to come first, before the hatred, before the wars, before the new partners. Evans has to shut up, shut her social media up, and concentrate on her children's future, both emotion and structural. She needs to remove herself from their and their father's relationship and facilitate them meeting up.

Gruffudd, meanwhile, needs to get his head out of his arse, and face reality. He's old by Hollywood standards, his earning potential is tanking and he needs to earn proper money. Not rely on handouts from the bank of mum and dad. Ugh. The more I think of them, the less I understand anyone supporting either.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 17:27

hothands · 30/01/2023 17:24

'Gettihg to live his best life' what a ridiculous comment. U are only seeing what Alice has posted u have absolutely no idea how he feels

Yep, he looks so, so sad in these photos from October, like he's really missing his kids.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11330211/amp/Ioan-Gruffudds-girlfriend-Bianca-Wallace-shares-loved-snaps.htmll*

Imagine how his children feel when they see stuff like this.

R u seriously suggesting he is happy all the time and not caring of the situation because u have seen he has been photographed by the daily mail once on a hoilday? ?
His children would have a much healthier view of a parent having a relationship, if their mother wasn't damaging them with her hate for the situation. I'm surprised he hasn't been blamed for that!

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 17:34

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 16:45

How how on earth can he re establish a healthy relationship with his children when the other parent is using actively manipulation to alienate him. This was not something she did, then stopped and he has become a crap dad in some eyes. He continuing to have his daughters manipulated by her. He's having to deal with an incredibly toxic and difficult situation. But he's somehow awful , it's so bizarre to me the comple lack of consideration to her abuse of him.

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How on earth, you ask?

Let me tell you.

By countering what is going on. By actively showing his children that he is there for them, that he wants them and that he loves them.

So that would have involved him not moving Bianca into his home upon return from his work trip, but instead living separately, and him going to court for immediate contact (no reason he wouldn’t have been awarded this), therapy for the children and starting to rebuild the relationship from there.

During contact he should have explained to the girls that they don’t have to worry about Bianca, or about meeting her, that he just wanted to focus on them and him. And did exactly that.

He would have asked Bianca to keep a low profile on Social Media and not to mention him at all. This should have been a dealbreaker.

He would have continued to show up consistently for his children, no cancelling contact sessions, showing them that he loves them, not just telling them.

By all accounts, they had a great relationship before, there’s no reason why quick action and understanding and consistency on his part to counter Alice wouldn’t have worked.

But he didn’t do any of this.

He waited almost one year before pursuing contact.

He moved Bianca straight into his home. He arranged pap shoots with Bianca, she posted videos on Instagram of herself filmed in the girl’s bedroom, she posted videos with Ioan speaking in the background/appearing in the background, she posted comments about how happy her and their father were, photos of them on holiday together and then promoted their film just as he told his eldest he had no money to continue paying for her schooling and that she would have to move schools.

He refused his daughter’s suggestion to see him - citing Bianca’s medical issues as the reason. He missed his two first court appointed contact sessions to go to Australia with Bianca.

He didn’t even try to counter Alice at all, in fact, he just fed right into exactly what she was telling the children.

I can’t understand why he made the choices he did.

What a mess of a situation.

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 17:37

'Gettihg to live his best life' what a ridiculous comment. U are only seeing what Alice has posted u have absolutely no idea how he feels.

Maybe she is going by what Bianca is posting on Insta.

CyberSpaceTraveller · 30/01/2023 17:41

Has Alice even been arrested yet? Not seen anything in the news and it's been a few days now. Surely they know where she is, shouldn't be that hard to find her?

TBH I can't imagine the mentality of a man who wants to see the mother of his children arrested after obviously going through a massive, very public breakdown after he left her. The primary carer of his DC no less.

Does anyone know if the DC are with him? If they're still with her I'd be very concerned that the threat of a very public arrest would tip her even more over the edge.

What was she doing to justify arrest? Still talking about him (obviously he needs to shut her up as it's harming his career) or did she carry out/threaten violence or something?

Seems very over the top to me or am I missing something?

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 17:45

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 30/01/2023 17:27

R u seriously suggesting he is happy all the time and not caring of the situation because u have seen he has been photographed by the daily mail once on a hoilday? ?
His children would have a much healthier view of a parent having a relationship, if their mother wasn't damaging them with her hate for the situation. I'm surprised he hasn't been blamed for that!

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This trip is the one where he delayed his visitation. Father of the year he looks utterly devastated to have missed out on the chance to spend time with his traumatised childre..