Page 23 | Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

Notatallanamechange · 2023-01-28T00:46:22+00:00

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

LoekMa · 30/01/2023 03:51

StarsSand · 30/01/2023 01:38

@Sindonym they were way more likely to catch Covid in the airport than him catching it in a theme park and then giving it to her.

Also instead of just saying no to the theme park, he could have suggested something else and told her how excited he was to see her, instead of being arsey and cold with her.

Sometimes discipline needs to take a backseat, he should be focusing on the ties between him and his daughter, not correcting her behaviour right now.

Alice is clearly trying to alienate him but he's making it easy for her.

The image Alice posted was clearly sceenshotted

He responded after that , wonder why she didn't post that too 🤔

Not that it matters tbh. I dont think he would be safe with her until anti-alienation therapy has been completed. If she blackmails him this openly, you know she is capable of alot worse behind close doors.

Smart guy for following his lawyers advice. Meanwhile Alice is trading emojis and sweet nothings with sycophants on social media, all that bad advise they gave her led to an arrest warrant.😯 Wonder what she'll do next

MarshaMelrose · 30/01/2023 05:52

sunshineandstrawberryjam · 30/01/2023 00:07

Can't he see that he's 50, he's losing his looks, he was never a superstar. His chances of getting work is growing increasingly slimmer. But instead, he's 'trying'to get work, going on auditions. Do any of his creditors care that he's trying? He needs to get a flaming job.

IG started off in TV acting when he was 13 years old. He left school at 18 to go to RADA. He's worked as an actor ever since. He has no experience, no qualifications. No one is going to give him a high paid professional job that will pay private school fees and a mortgage on a £2m house out of the blue and if you're suggesting he get a job stacking shelves, that'll still lead to him not being able to pay the mortgage or school fees. Somewhat bizarre complaint - "how dare he try and get a job in the field he's been working in for 35 years instead of pulling a magic other job out of his arse"

Be he can't get a job in acting, can he? In 2021 he made The Reunion in France where he now owes €70,000 in taxes. In 2022 he did one presenting job. That's it. A regular job in an office or hospitality won't pay a $2m mortgage and school fees, no. But it would pay for his own bills without giving to cadge off his girlfriend. And it would pay for his kids medical policy. And would mean he could take them out to the cinema and get them popcorn...if he ever sees them.
Or he could sit at home on his arse, getting further into debt, letting his younger girlfriend and his elderly parents keep bailing him out, shelling out money to his agent who's getting him no work. He's still not paying off the mortgage or school fees. And he can't even pay for himself.

LoekMa · 30/01/2023 06:03

He's still not paying off the mortgage or school fees.

why should he? She needs to move out.

Public school's just fine.

DanseAvecLesLoup · 30/01/2023 07:49

My god this thread is a dumpster fire.

I don't think anyone here can criticise blokes over at football365 ever again for discussing for days the merits of the arsenal back four.

Simulacra · 30/01/2023 08:00

MarshaMelrose · 30/01/2023 05:52

Be he can't get a job in acting, can he? In 2021 he made The Reunion in France where he now owes €70,000 in taxes. In 2022 he did one presenting job. That's it. A regular job in an office or hospitality won't pay a $2m mortgage and school fees, no. But it would pay for his own bills without giving to cadge off his girlfriend. And it would pay for his kids medical policy. And would mean he could take them out to the cinema and get them popcorn...if he ever sees them.
Or he could sit at home on his arse, getting further into debt, letting his younger girlfriend and his elderly parents keep bailing him out, shelling out money to his agent who's getting him no work. He's still not paying off the mortgage or school fees. And he can't even pay for himself.

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Conversely, Alice could get off her fat, lazy, drunk ass and get a job for the first time in years.

He wasted money paying for a Nanny (or two at one point) whilst she refused to get a job so she could stay with her Baybeeez (get drunk and stay in bed all day) - the only logical reason for this is because he knew the children weren’t safe alone with her and he had to take work, whenever it was.

What SAHM do you know who has a Nanny/housekeeper? Is it a common thing? In my world it ain’t.

He’s had to get money from his parents to pay the mortgage because she won’t pay it.

Do you seriously think any married man must continue to pay everything post split for an indefinite amount of time?

He is a victim of domestic violence and a court agreed and gave him a permanent restraining order.

There are some seriously hard of thinking dipshits here.

Habber · 30/01/2023 08:16

Vivi0 · 29/01/2023 21:27

Did she want to see him or did she want to go to a theme park that's 2 different things.

Oh, FFS.

Does it matter?

He had the opportunity to see her and spend time with her. He chose not to take his daughter up on her suggestion. It really is his loss.

For info, the older child spent months and months under Alice’s instructions begging dad to come swim in the pool at their house and even inventing illness and emergencies to get him to go back to the house so Alice could confront him. She refused to have any contact with him otherwise unless he came to their house only. Alice has worked on her so hard, to get contact with Ioan this child is so deeply enmeshed in Alice’s web of madness and manipulation this is not really about a theme park. The older child is being used by Alice as a conduit to Ioan and frankly, it sounds scary and like hell. I don’t even think Ioan had put half of it in the custody docs as he is trying to keep the kids out of it where he can. Most people have never been through something like this before and don’t have all the answers or experience as to how to deal with it. He is human like everyone else. What if he’s been told he doesn’t stand a chance of emergency custody as it’s all heresay? What if he’s already had CPS do welfare checks and Alice pretends it’s all fine? She’s gaslighting everyone around her that this is all his fault so what you see in the media is often her version - she refused to show the lower part of the messages or the other parts where he says his DD has been threatening and trying to blackmail him so he’s asked for professional help.

whilst I think it’s probably not helping by having BW around I don’t think it’s comparable to what Alice is doing by a long long stretch. Breaking up with BW when that’s now already well established wouldn’t necessarily help the situation. Before BW Alice was obsessed with his mother being the cause of everything

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 08:23

The Alice Evans fan club has really day tripped over from Twitter to continue to their anti-Ioan campaign here. It always amazes me how people who treat others badly like Alice or Chris Brown etc manage to maintain these rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimized. Like this thread, they are always relentless.

hothands · 30/01/2023 08:50

It always amazes me how people who treat others badly like Alice or Chris Brown etc manage to maintain these rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimized

Lol. Have you read some of the comments about Ioan's daughter on this thread?! 'Rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimised' could easily be about any of the people tying themselves in knots trying to defend his pathetic parenting.

Very, very few of us are defending Alice. Just because she's allegedly the devil, does not make Ioan a saint.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 08:53

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 08:23

The Alice Evans fan club has really day tripped over from Twitter to continue to their anti-Ioan campaign here. It always amazes me how people who treat others badly like Alice or Chris Brown etc manage to maintain these rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimized. Like this thread, they are always relentless.

Actually most have been calling Alice a terrible mother and abusive person. We are just calling out Ioans terrible parenting it's not all or nothing He's left his poor traumatised daughters with Alice he got to work away which gave him lengthy breaks which his daughters never got. He got a new girlfriend moved in together very quickly, posts thank you for making me smile again , ends up going on extended trips which cancels visitation (many are not work related) instead of his letting his daughters know he's there for them.

His daughters are not his top priority, I will always feel sorry for them over Ioan sorry. I have they are having good therapy , it's all fine to some posters as Ioan gets to live his best life , what about his kids who are the ultimate victims. She's a 13 year old yet some think she has more responsibility than her father , she's a child who needs love and support.

Habber · 30/01/2023 08:54

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 08:23

The Alice Evans fan club has really day tripped over from Twitter to continue to their anti-Ioan campaign here. It always amazes me how people who treat others badly like Alice or Chris Brown etc manage to maintain these rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimized. Like this thread, they are always relentless.

They aren’t her fan club they are women who generally have a low opinion of men I think. Ioan probably has made mistakes, as we all do in life and no one is perfect but what is causing the divide is the difference between unintentional harm of decisions and intentional harm of decisions.

Meeting a new partner is not an act of intentional harm against your ex or children. People don’t generally set up home with someone new to spite or harm others, so the harm may be a by product of what is seen as being selfish by wanting to be in a relationship with someone who treats you kindly. Perhaps it is selfish to want to be with someone who supports you whilst you are having a difficult time. Perhaps it would be better for everyone else for you to spend 5 years sad and alone, fighting the same fight but by yourself to prove your virtuous nature but not better for you. Perhaps being happy makes you a better parent and being unhappy negatively affects your kids. Being happy when others are not happy can set an example that there is a chance of happiness after sadness.

I have 2 parents who divorced. One never met another person in 25 years and is bitter lonely and unhappy. The other met someone and remarried. One parent is nicer to be around than the other one. One is setting an example of a healthy stable relationship and the other is setting the example of how jealousy and resentment can ruin your life.

But Alice is causing the unhappiness and causing it to be prolonged too. She could choose to stop.

It is intentional to use your kids as weapons against their other parent - you know harm is being done, you continue. It’s intentional to commit crimes repeatedly against another person. It’s intentional to continually trash someone Publicly and to your own kids. That’s not making Alice or anyone else happy. So no one is happy in that situation, with no hope of happiness.

so no I don’t begrudge someone the hope of happiness - even Alice.

Sindonym · 30/01/2023 08:56

I haven’t seen much Alice fandom here (quite the opposite), just a recognition that Ioan really isn’t winning any father of the year awards. TBH if Alice wasn’t so unstable he’d look a lot worse.

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 08:56

hothands · 30/01/2023 08:50

It always amazes me how people who treat others badly like Alice or Chris Brown etc manage to maintain these rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimized

Lol. Have you read some of the comments about Ioan's daughter on this thread?! 'Rabid fans who will go to bat on their behalf and attack the people they victimised' could easily be about any of the people tying themselves in knots trying to defend his pathetic parenting.

Very, very few of us are defending Alice. Just because she's allegedly the devil, does not make Ioan a saint.

This has been Alice's and her fan club's ammo since the start. A relentless attack on Ioan's character to deflect from the psychological warfare and parental alienation she has pertetrated.

I doubt Rihanna was a perfect girlfriend - doesn't mean I think a relentless attack on her character and effort to deflect wrongdoing away from Chris is the right approach.

No on is perfect. Not a single human. But choosing to attack and relentlessly harass the abuse victim and try to rip their character to shreds to try and make it seem like they deserve abuse is certainly an interesting choice.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 08:58

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 08:56

This has been Alice's and her fan club's ammo since the start. A relentless attack on Ioan's character to deflect from the psychological warfare and parental alienation she has pertetrated.

I doubt Rihanna was a perfect girlfriend - doesn't mean I think a relentless attack on her character and effort to deflect wrongdoing away from Chris is the right approach.

No on is perfect. Not a single human. But choosing to attack and relentlessly harass the abuse victim and try to rip their character to shreds to try and make it seem like they deserve abuse is certainly an interesting choice.

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Being a good father and not selfish is a pretty basic thing especially when you have traumatised children who must come first. Why are the children's feelings last for Ioans?

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 08:59

The Alice Evans fan club…

Can you give me the link to that thread, because there’s certainly no Alice Evans fan club on this one.

…day tripped over from Twitter…

In my experience, it seems to be the Ioan Gruffud fan club who post the same rhetoric across multiple platforms, harassing people who don’t agree with them.

continue to their anti-Ioan campaign

Parents on a parenting forum are discussing Ioan’s choices as a parent. Stop with the paranoia. People don’t agree with your view of Ioan, that’s it, there’s no “campaign”.

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:00

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 08:58

Being a good father and not selfish is a pretty basic thing especially when you have traumatised children who must come first. Why are the children's feelings last for Ioans?

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Exhibit A

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:00

Vivi0 · 30/01/2023 08:59

The Alice Evans fan club…

Can you give me the link to that thread, because there’s certainly no Alice Evans fan club on this one.

…day tripped over from Twitter…

In my experience, it seems to be the Ioan Gruffud fan club who post the same rhetoric across multiple platforms, harassing people who don’t agree with them.

continue to their anti-Ioan campaign

Parents on a parenting forum are discussing Ioan’s choices as a parent. Stop with the paranoia. People don’t agree with your view of Ioan, that’s it, there’s no “campaign”.

Exhibit B

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 09:01

Habber · 30/01/2023 08:54

They aren’t her fan club they are women who generally have a low opinion of men I think. Ioan probably has made mistakes, as we all do in life and no one is perfect but what is causing the divide is the difference between unintentional harm of decisions and intentional harm of decisions.

Meeting a new partner is not an act of intentional harm against your ex or children. People don’t generally set up home with someone new to spite or harm others, so the harm may be a by product of what is seen as being selfish by wanting to be in a relationship with someone who treats you kindly. Perhaps it is selfish to want to be with someone who supports you whilst you are having a difficult time. Perhaps it would be better for everyone else for you to spend 5 years sad and alone, fighting the same fight but by yourself to prove your virtuous nature but not better for you. Perhaps being happy makes you a better parent and being unhappy negatively affects your kids. Being happy when others are not happy can set an example that there is a chance of happiness after sadness.

I have 2 parents who divorced. One never met another person in 25 years and is bitter lonely and unhappy. The other met someone and remarried. One parent is nicer to be around than the other one. One is setting an example of a healthy stable relationship and the other is setting the example of how jealousy and resentment can ruin your life.

But Alice is causing the unhappiness and causing it to be prolonged too. She could choose to stop.

It is intentional to use your kids as weapons against their other parent - you know harm is being done, you continue. It’s intentional to commit crimes repeatedly against another person. It’s intentional to continually trash someone Publicly and to your own kids. That’s not making Alice or anyone else happy. So no one is happy in that situation, with no hope of happiness.

so no I don’t begrudge someone the hope of happiness - even Alice.

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If I had traumatised abused kids the last thing on my mind would be getting into a serious relationship and moving in together then saying no I can't see you because of my partner.. Nobody said Ioan can't date , the kids will be grown up in not too many years. Adults have to make sacrifices sometimes for their children's wellbeing. It's not all about living your best life to the detriment of the kids.

Sindonym · 30/01/2023 09:03

Of course meeting a new partner isn’t an act of harm. Nor is being happy - quite the opposite. But putting your girlfriend’s needs ahead of your daughters - before said daughter has even met girlfriend does say about something about priorities to that daughter. Particularly when the rest of her life isn’t exactly stable. And yeah I judge that.

I don’t hate men btw - have been happily
married to one for more than quarter of a century. I also know that if we ever split he would put the kids first - before me or any new partner - as he should.

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:08

Sindonym · 30/01/2023 09:03

Of course meeting a new partner isn’t an act of harm. Nor is being happy - quite the opposite. But putting your girlfriend’s needs ahead of your daughters - before said daughter has even met girlfriend does say about something about priorities to that daughter. Particularly when the rest of her life isn’t exactly stable. And yeah I judge that.

I don’t hate men btw - have been happily
married to one for more than quarter of a century. I also know that if we ever split he would put the kids first - before me or any new partner - as he should.

What court documents are you using as your source for these timelines and interactions anc conversations between Ioan, Bianca, and the daughters?

Where are you getting this information from that has led you to determine this truth as you believe it about Ioan?

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 09:10

Actually I've just read on the other thread they say youngest daughter seems nothing like the oldest one, the oldest one is like Alice Writing off a 13 year old traumatised child is disgusting, Being 13 is hard enough in a normal family setting. How can you defend a grown man over a child? It's gross.

Habber · 30/01/2023 09:11

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 09:01

If I had traumatised abused kids the last thing on my mind would be getting into a serious relationship and moving in together then saying no I can't see you because of my partner.. Nobody said Ioan can't date , the kids will be grown up in not too many years. Adults have to make sacrifices sometimes for their children's wellbeing. It's not all about living your best life to the detriment of the kids.

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dating I get but I don’t believe he’s the dating or hit and quit it type. He’s only had a few girlfriends in his whole life and was a very late bloomer. His mum had to rescue him from some kind of cult when he was younger! From the timeline he was living alone then they seem to have been friends and then she came to LA to break into acting and they seem to have set up home in a rental. If he’s struggling with finances this might be a driving force behind pooling resources as now he cannot afford to live alone. It’s not like she’s with him for money is it?

He has no family in LA either so I can see why he might have got lonely, restricted access to his kids. I don’t begrudge Alice meeting someone either tbh. I don’t think focussing on the girlfriend now for pages on end is appropriate in light of all the horrendous things Alice has done. Ioan having a new partner pales in significance to the harm alice has been doing. But this is what she wanted, everyone to focus on him, she’s got her wish 🤷🏼‍♀️

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:11

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 09:10

Actually I've just read on the other thread they say youngest daughter seems nothing like the oldest one, the oldest one is like Alice Writing off a 13 year old traumatised child is disgusting, Being 13 is hard enough in a normal family setting. How can you defend a grown man over a child? It's gross.

Hey Alice / Alice's fan club repeating her lines,

No one has written off a 13 year old no matter how many times you try to twist reality.

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 09:12

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:08

What court documents are you using as your source for these timelines and interactions anc conversations between Ioan, Bianca, and the daughters?

Where are you getting this information from that has led you to determine this truth as you believe it about Ioan?

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I've read the court documents , Alice is a narcissist abuser but Ioan is still a selfish father, who puts his own happiness ahead of his kids. One a vulnerable 13 year old who lashes out who wouldn't being in that situation, yet she gets more blame than Ioan a grown man?

Rosiefifi · 30/01/2023 09:14

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:11

Hey Alice / Alice's fan club repeating her lines,

No one has written off a 13 year old no matter how many times you try to twist reality.

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I've just read the tattle thread should be renamed the IG fan thread which has numerous likes for a post which insults Ella who is 13 and a child.

musingsinmidlife · 30/01/2023 09:15

Attacking the girlfriend and her character too is all part of the Alice Fan Club routine. I agree the fan club isn't necessarily women who followed her career, it is women who saw another woman be accused of behaving badly and they immediately jumped to attacking the man and his girlfriend. It is a very man hating approach. A lot of it is similar to how 'incel's and 'men's rights' folks talk about woman.