Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

We genuinely do not know what is happening in regards to the children behind the scenes, or what he’s been advised by therapists and his lawyers. He’s obviously consulting the former as he’s looking for reconciliation following parental alienation.
He’s not airing every detail out in the public sphere, that doesn’t mean he’s doing nothing.

Alice threatened to make allegations against him in order to ruin him. I don’t think it’s a great leap to think she could prime her children to act as agents in this. It’s wise for him to be cautious and do everything by the book. However much onlookers may want to see emotionally driven, performative, and knee-jerk reactions such as him swooping in and hauling away his children, such displays invariably backfire and do more harm than good, especially when it involves someone as erratic and high conflict as Alice Evans.

He may very well have been advised by his lawyers to aim, at least initially, for shared custody of children at an age where they can express their own preferences. Going for 50% custody makes him look reasonable, willing to coparent, and respectful of his children’s love for and need of their mother. It shows he’s looking to share with her rather than making the children the battle ground and something to ‘win’. Alice only serves to make herself look worse in regards to the court by her complete inability to even attempt to meet in the middle.

There's the cognitive dissonance as well 🤣. It's deemed ok for Ioan to live off his girlfriend and parents . He needs to take care of his mental health and wellbeing. Alice though is workshy who needs to scrub loos and should be homeless. I don't like either of them never will it's why I stopped looking on there the thread should be renamed saint Ioan 🤣.

🤣🤣 nobody is even getting angry just you. I'm married, I work have a good career. I take care of myself in my 20s. If my husband left me oh well I would move on . Just because I think Ioans a shit dad doesn't mean I back Alice. I have an abusive mother my dad attended therapy with me. He spent lots of time with me he did not immediately get a girlfriend and move her in then say he couldn't see me or go on holidays with his girlfriend. He moved in with his partner when I was settled.

Not fans of his. Just holding Alice accountable. You can try as much to rewrite a narrative, it won't work 🤗

I find it very odd, how you keep harping on about being in your 20s? Do you assume I'm older than you and somehow jealous? 😂

Do you assume all older people are?

Ok, so how is it being funded? And I highly doubt anyone would show a flicker of interest in funding it if it wasn’t featuring his girlfriend.

How do you need to hold Alice accountable on this thread ? She's an abusive unstable horrible person everyone knows that 99 percent have agreed she is. Still doesn't negate the fact that Ioan as the more stable parent is a selfish disinterested father. He has prioritised his new life and girlfriend over his traumatised kids. It's not black & white I think both of them are awful and it's only the children I feel sorry for. I hope they come through it and have happy lives.

100 per cent can tell she doesn’t have children. 😂most people wouldn’t give a shit long-term if they didn’t have investments and children together, you aren’t anything unusual.

Ok, so how is it being funded?

Ask Alice. She seems to be all over the new couples' finances. How is anyone on MN supposed to know?

You are the one who keeps assuming anyone who doesn't think Ioan is a saint is a bitter jilted hag 🤣🤣

Just holding Alice accountable.

Fucking hell - it’s not your place.

Look, I’m not trying to be unkind here, but Alice Evans is a stranger to you, you don’t know her, you don’t know Ioan, their lives have absolutely nothing to do with you.

You seem way too invested in the lives of strangers. Maybe an internet break, or visit to a therapist, would help.

And before you start holding others accountable, perhaps you should consider holding yourself accountable first. Going back and reading your comments about a traumatised 12 year old child would be a good start.

Why luv? Reads coherently enough to me.

I do have children but I've got my own career. If my husband left I'd be fine. I believe in financial independence something Alice didn't..

Fair enough. It read like someone who doesn’t have tied investments and joint responsibilities. They do make splitting a million times harder.

How I spend my free time is none of your business, I'm not trying to be unkind here.

Nobody's forcing you to read/post/stalk or whatever.

Some fresh air might do you some good

Exactly this. If he were really such a great dad, he'd be focused laser-like on his kids rather than his crotch.

"If my daughter was struggling and I had not seen her months there's no way I would say I can't see you because of my new partner. I would walk on hot coals to see her, I would not feel happy until I knew she was safe and settled. That's why I think he's selfish"

Same here.

Hi everyone,

Just bobbing our head round to ask for some peace and light on here please. Please report anything that concerns you as opposed to derailing the thread or making personal attacks.

I take it you don’t have a 14 year old LoekMa if you think they are practically an adult.

But yes she was 12 for a lot of this. Maybe even younger given she is still only 13.

Agreed.

Bearing in mind he was already living with his new partner - his daughters had never even met her, never mind established some kind of relationship with her.

They will no doubt be feeling abandoned by him, and that their father cares more about Bianca than he does them.

It’s really sad.

No, it’s that you are adding on Alice’s foibles and flaws as an afterthought and side note,

So? Is there some sort of guidance that I have to follow in criticising people? I don't have to criticise her at all if i dont want to. And whether I criticise her or not does not alter my opinion of him.

your main focus is Ioan earning money.

That is a big problem for him, isn't it? No money. He just went to court last month pleading poverty. So, yes, his main focus needs to be getting money.

Why should he be the only person earning money and paying for this house while she refuses to sell it?

I've said she needs to earn money. Whether she does or doesn't, though, that doesn't negate his need to earn. Because one's irresponsible, it doesn't give the other one a pass.

He’s already said he’s happy to show the court how many auditions he’s had and all the attempts at work, he has an agent, to whom he has to pay fees, he also has to pay taxes on all his earnings which has helped wipe him out.

Wait. So not only os he not earning because he's not getting acting jobs, he's paying the agent who's not getting him acting jobs! Can't he see that he's 50, he's losing his looks, he was never a superstar. His chances of getting work is growing increasingly slimmer. But instead, he's 'trying'to get work, going on auditions. Do any of his creditors care that he's trying? He needs to get a flaming job.

He is having to borrow to pay the mortgage as it’s far more than he can afford. So your answer to this is… to just go earn that on his own? Why should he? Because he is a man?

He has two choices. Carry on doing nothing. Bumming money off his young girlfriend and elderly parents. Spending money he hasnt got on his agent and going on his auditions. Or he still does,auditions but goes out and get a job that actually pays money so he doesn't have to have handouts, and he can pay for his kids medical insurance and, if he ever does see them again, he can buy them a hamburger and fries.

He should because he's a father. Jury's still out on if he's a man.

@Rosiefifi

I take the view that it's unreasonable to have formed the opinion you (and others) have on such little evidence and without any real knowledge of the situation.

I don't think any particularly polarised view is reasonable in the circumstances. It's rare than anyone does everything 100% right or 100% wrong in a situation like this.

That said, I see you've made your mind up so I'm not sure there is much point in going round in circles.

I've read the court documents and the evidence. Ioan was in an unhappy marriage , Alice was unstable drunk and being a bad parent. Ioan got to go work away, have a break from her , meet a new love move in together , find happiness. Where were the children in all this? At home with Alice unable to escape .

That's why I will say the children are the ultimate victims in this not Ioan who had the power to leave, the kids have none yet are deemed to be bad like Alice when they act up. They have been traumatised.