Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

Anyone posting shit like that about a vulnerable, 12 year old child who has been left in the sole care of a parent who is supposedly a domestic abuser, needs to fucking re-evaluate their lives.

They are from the tattle AE thread Ioan superfans. Where it's perfectly fine to insult a 12 year old in pain , they dislike the eldest daughter think she's too much like Alice. I hope none of them are parents it's pretty normal a 12 year old would act out in the middle of a toxic divorce with a unhinged mother and your disinterested __dad gets a new girlfriend.

My last post was in response to this.

At the top of the transcript it says “Video received from Ella”.

that sounds like Ella made the recording.

I have been involved in court proceedings where the children have covertly recorded their parents fighting, or domestic abuse. I don’t think I need to explain just how traumatised those children were.

In my view the video recorded by the younger child where AE refers to the elder as a bitch is the most disturbing of the evidence submitted by IG.

Yet he said he couldn't see her and take her to a theme park because of his girlfriend. When he knew she was being subjected to emotional abuse no wonder she has problems. Anyone victim blaming a 12 year old needs to get in the bin. Ioan is a fucking adult.

In my view the video recorded by the younger child where AE refers to the elder as a bitch is the most disturbing of the evidence submitted by IG.

Any reason other than he is entitled to his happiness, as to why he left his children in that environment or why he is only asking for 50/50 custody?

What are you even on about? Is screaming tattle tattle tattle supposed to invalidate my arguments? 😂

Calm down smuggy, I know I'm right. I dont need to hear any more of your rantings

You invalidate your own arguments by speaking about a 12 year old child the way you do. Vile.

I've repeatedly stated my opinion which it that we do not have enough information about the circumstances to say anything with certainty about the rationale for the decisions made/action taken by IG.

I don't think it's fair to assume that the only possible rationale is that IG is a shit father who has prioritised his new partner over his children. Perhaps that is the case but it's a complex situation - opinions aren't facts.

Who is this phantom 12yo you are all referring to? I know that one child is 13 going on 14 soo not exactly a babieez in that sense

All the posts about him being a shitty father because he shouldn't have gone away to work or left the kids with their abusive mother remind me of all the people who advise women to just change the locks on jointly owned homes when their partner does something awful.

Just because something might be what you want to do, it doesn't mean you can do it legally.

What was he supposed to do? Practically speaking, what exactly was he supposed to do? If he'd (presumably) broken his contract and not gone to Australia to work and instead stayed nearby and got a job at McDonald's or Walmart, how exactly do people see that working out? Alice would have been raging at the lack of income and still raging about him leaving her so how would his contact with the kids have been achievable?

How could he just take the kids with him, and remove them from their mother without any evidence that her behaviour is problematic? He couldn't. How could he have kept the roof over their heads if he had taken a low paying job?

Like everyone else, I don't know for sure, but I suspect IG has been following legal advice to give Alice enough rope. Because he needs evidence of her abuse and alienation. It's all very well saying he shouldn't have left them with her. He probably agrees, but had no way of doing anything else. Sometimes you have to take the legal route and do what needs to be done that way, especially when dealing with someone who is absolutely and wholly unreasonable and abusive.

She was 12 at the time now 13 , a child an adolescent which is hard enough in a normal household let alone one where you are being called a bitch by your mother and dad is disinterested and has a new girlfriend.

Imagine applauding a father for keeping a 'wide berth' from his traumatised 12 year old.

That's incredibly sad.

Are you a parent? If my daughter was struggling and I had not seen her months there's no way I would say I can't see you because of my new partner. I would walk on hot coals to see her, I would not feel happy until I knew she was safe and settled. That's why I think he's selfish

She was 12 at most at the time.

But I'd say the same about a 14 year old. She's just a child, and a very confused and hurt one.

Upset kids say and do awful things, you don't get to avoid them.

She was 12 though when she committed the crime of asking her dad to take her to a theme park after not seeing him for months, or for lashing out when told she would have to move schools, whilst being caught up in her parents acrimonious divorce and the loss of her father in her life.

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Yes, I'm a parent. I also live in the real world (where there limits on what people can do) and try not to make absolute judgements about people I've never met when I don't know enough to form an informed view.

I've never said I know with certainty IG has done the right things, simply that we don't know with certainty the reasons he has made the decisions he has and (unless you are a mind reader) the fact is neither do you.

The only text evidence anyone is basing their opinion of his parenting is one that Alice posted on her social media. Alice knew she was losing and lashed out with it. It could have had messaged delete from the iMessage thread and it also did not have any more text to it than a small snippet. You cannot, and do not know he is a terrible father based on 3-4 text messages or invent an entire narrative he has chosen a woman over his kids. But you can see from all the evidence he has that there is a pattern of behaviour of Alice’s.

Alice is welcome to submit her own evidence re custody and her thoughts on Ioan’s parenting - yet she hasn’t. All she has is that text screenshot and she knew releasing it would generate this narrative which is exactly why she did it. It worked. Yet this woman has evidentially exposed her children’s personal anguish over and over in the public eye and caused them immense trauma - and that’s STILL Ioan’s fault. It always will be to her fans and scorned women’s club

Both appalling in my opinion, more so probably her.

I do visit the tattle threads now and again and they are, erm, ‘invested’ to say the least. Him and his girlfriend are spoken about like modern day saints on there. The way I see it is he’s a selfish sod (claiming poverty yet in a flash city or beach every other week and funding some vanity project for her) and she’s a self-serving wind-up merchant from what I can see.

The only winners in this will be their lawyers and the only ones I feel sorry for are their children.

The court documents showed that he hasn’t put any money into her film project. He hasn’t got any to put in.

It's eye opening about how precarious the life of an actor is. Even a relatively successful one, who has literary starred in movies and TV shows.

Well from I've seen he's more interested in his girlfriend then helping his daughters feel more stable and showing unconditional love. I just couldn't be content knowing my kids are suffering and they swan sound the world.

and that’s STILL Ioan’s fault. It always will be to her fans and scorned women’s club

Two points:

1. I highly doubt Alice Evans has fans.
2. You seem to believe that the people who are holding Ioan to account as a father have some kind of prejudice against men who choose to leave their marriages.

Maybe the people who are not as invested in the Alice Evans show and the “court documents” and “screen shots” etc are able to look at the situation with a bit more clarity and see that actually, it isn’t about whose “fault” it is, but that there are two children who need to be at least one of their parent’s priority, and neither of those parents are stepping up to make them such.

It’s really easy to try and shut down people who can see that Ioan hasn’t prioritised his daughters in what must be one of the most traumatic points of their lives, by calling them “scorned women”. But Ioan’s inactions speak for themselves.

So much projection going on, so much insecurity.

Nothing Ioan has done proves he is a bad father, if you are terrified of your DH swanning off with a GF after you treat him like shit for over a decade, examine your own mistakes and maybe make a change before Alice's fate becomes yours