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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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MBSD · 28/01/2023 13:35

I think it's not a good idea to resort to victim blaming and say "Oh well, you know her, you should have just offered her everything". I don't think this advice would be given here if the genders were reveresed.

Besides, I don't think Alice would have shut up even then. She clearly was pissed that he ended the relationship because she always thought she had him under control, hence why she threatened (probably multiple times) with divorce herself.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 28/01/2023 13:38

If you’re talking about why he left to go to Australia and didn’t take them with him. He went to Australia to work. He cannot get work in L.A (there is an email between Ioan and Alice where she berates him for this as his agent’s advice). He cannot just take his kids without their mum’s permission, especially if he was trying to take them out of the country. It’s kidnap! He is going through the courts to get a fair custody deal.

If he really, really wanted to stay near his kids, he could have found some other work. If not acting in a big program, he could have done presenting gigs, voice work, etc or hell worked at McDonalds or Walmart. If he had truly made his kids priority one.

He wasn't forced to live halfway round the world with his young girlfriend.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 13:40

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:09

Ok well cos he was having access and Alice interfered with it all for some months. She told the kids all untrue things and made them afraid to leave her. She also hijacked the FaceTimes butting in to yell at him and would record them, so even when he was away and trying to stay in touch, she wouldn’t let him, then when he did have the kids, she would keep threatening to call the police on him to bring them home. She also got the oldest one to say she would ONLY see dad at home and therefore, he wouldn’t go there (as it was so bad with Alice) so couldn’t see her. I believe it has been truly horrible for them.

Therefore I think Ioan seemed to have taken a step back, to lessen the drama and trauma for them and use the legal system instead. Alice also used their phones and emails to send him abuse.

this is all in court documents - with evidence

A step back to lessen the drama. Round about the time he and his girlfriend publicly announced their relationship. Wouldn't that be suspicious to the children? Wouldn't they draw the conclusion that now he has a girlfriend, he has less time for them. Also, he's introduced his girlfriend to them very quickly. Isn't that a MN no-no? What would MN say to a wife who posted that her husband told her he didn't love her anymore and wasn't happy, left her, was now dating a woman 20 years his junior, who he met at work prior to him leaving her. Now he's introduced their children to the new girlfriend who he says he's just started dating, and has decided to take a step back from the children to lessen the drama. I think MN would not be kind to this poor down-trodden guy!!
If he's that concerned about the children, he shouldn't be stepping back, he should be stepping up. After all, he's making the claim about her over usage of sleeping medication and alcohol.

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:40

Why does everyone seem to think he is living out of the US? He’s moved away with his GF? He is apparently living in an apartment LA near the kids.

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:41

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 13:40

A step back to lessen the drama. Round about the time he and his girlfriend publicly announced their relationship. Wouldn't that be suspicious to the children? Wouldn't they draw the conclusion that now he has a girlfriend, he has less time for them. Also, he's introduced his girlfriend to them very quickly. Isn't that a MN no-no? What would MN say to a wife who posted that her husband told her he didn't love her anymore and wasn't happy, left her, was now dating a woman 20 years his junior, who he met at work prior to him leaving her. Now he's introduced their children to the new girlfriend who he says he's just started dating, and has decided to take a step back from the children to lessen the drama. I think MN would not be kind to this poor down-trodden guy!!
If he's that concerned about the children, he shouldn't be stepping back, he should be stepping up. After all, he's making the claim about her over usage of sleeping medication and alcohol.

No this all happened BEFORE his girlfriend
Alice was convinced he was in love with his mother and his mum was controlling him

VeraLynnTookMyCoat · 28/01/2023 13:42

*There's always one.

Alice is not the victim you think she is.*

She is I'd lay money on it.

I bet Ioan's never contemplated suicide, I bet Alice has.

She didn't deserve all this.

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:45

VeraLynnTookMyCoat · 28/01/2023 13:42

*There's always one.

Alice is not the victim you think she is.*

She is I'd lay money on it.

I bet Ioan's never contemplated suicide, I bet Alice has.

She didn't deserve all this.

she wrote to him to tell him he might as well just kill himself though. Does this fit in your imaginary story anywhere?

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 13:46

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:40

Why does everyone seem to think he is living out of the US? He’s moved away with his GF? He is apparently living in an apartment LA near the kids.

True, the court documents indicate he's based in LA in an apartment near the family home. That Alice called a 'box' and said she didn't want the children visiting, so I'm guessing it's not flash.

The girlfriend made a big deal about moving her dog to America, which you would only do to live there long term. The quarantine rules to bring a dog back to Australia are intense and really hard on the dog.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 13:46

Alice married him when she was 40 and after seeing his engagement story, it was clearly an ultimatum.

It was definitely an ultimatum. They'd been dating for seven years. She was 40. She wanted children. Surely no one on MN would blame someone for saying to aboyfruend of 7 years, probably after lots of talk about marriage, step up or push off. I say, good for her. It's about the only thing I think she was right about.
It was just unfortunate she chose him.

MBSD · 28/01/2023 13:47

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 13:40

A step back to lessen the drama. Round about the time he and his girlfriend publicly announced their relationship. Wouldn't that be suspicious to the children? Wouldn't they draw the conclusion that now he has a girlfriend, he has less time for them. Also, he's introduced his girlfriend to them very quickly. Isn't that a MN no-no? What would MN say to a wife who posted that her husband told her he didn't love her anymore and wasn't happy, left her, was now dating a woman 20 years his junior, who he met at work prior to him leaving her. Now he's introduced their children to the new girlfriend who he says he's just started dating, and has decided to take a step back from the children to lessen the drama. I think MN would not be kind to this poor down-trodden guy!!
If he's that concerned about the children, he shouldn't be stepping back, he should be stepping up. After all, he's making the claim about her over usage of sleeping medication and alcohol.

He said in court documents that he only announced his relationship because Alice had called her shouting over the children's phone the name of his girlfriend (some people figured it out and told Alice) and Alice being Alice she immediately started posting a number of made up things (like that they are already dating for 3 years). I personally don't think that the caption he chosed was very wise and I dont think that it made it better, but he definitely didnt plan to announce it the way he did and Alice had already done it for him to the kids anyway.

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 13:47

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 28/01/2023 13:38

If you’re talking about why he left to go to Australia and didn’t take them with him. He went to Australia to work. He cannot get work in L.A (there is an email between Ioan and Alice where she berates him for this as his agent’s advice). He cannot just take his kids without their mum’s permission, especially if he was trying to take them out of the country. It’s kidnap! He is going through the courts to get a fair custody deal.

If he really, really wanted to stay near his kids, he could have found some other work. If not acting in a big program, he could have done presenting gigs, voice work, etc or hell worked at McDonalds or Walmart. If he had truly made his kids priority one.

He wasn't forced to live halfway round the world with his young girlfriend.

But he (or Bianca) has an apartment not very far away from them (as mentioned in a previous post Alice tweeted about when one of the daughters - I think it was Elsie - bumped into Ioan and Bianca walking their dog around the neighbourhood when she was with her nanny and she freaked out).

He has a base in LA and he at one time had a visitation schedule but Alice kept messing him around by cancelling at the last minute and brainwashing the children with lies to the point they didn’t want to visit their dad anymore through fear he was going to kidnap them/their mum might go to jail/he didn’t love them anymore. And when they were forced to visit they were hysterical and unpleasant. Alice said they were too scared and upset to visit him anymore and she wasn’t going to force them, even if the court ordered her to.

So it’s not down to Ioan. Alice is stopping them from seeing his kids. This is why he is presenting a court case, to get fair custody of them.

DanseAvecLesLoup · 28/01/2023 13:47

If you willingly and without coercion sign a pre nup before marriage how can it become 'unfair' when you later divorce?

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:50

DanseAvecLesLoup · 28/01/2023 13:47

If you willingly and without coercion sign a pre nup before marriage how can it become 'unfair' when you later divorce?

And choose to get married and live in a country with less fair divorce laws than the U.K., then compare it to the U.K. laws? It’s bonkers!

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 13:50

DanseAvecLesLoup · 28/01/2023 13:47

If you willingly and without coercion sign a pre nup before marriage how can it become 'unfair' when you later divorce?

They didn't have kids at the time and Alice was still working. A pre nup signed before kids shouldn't be valid.

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 13:50

DanseAvecLesLoup · 28/01/2023 13:47

If you willingly and without coercion sign a pre nup before marriage how can it become 'unfair' when you later divorce?

Because she'd had two children since then?

Shoogly · 28/01/2023 13:54

I'd always imagined pre-nups would include the eventuality of having kids and make provision accordingly. Why would you make one that didn't?

If Ioan could have stayed on LA and got a job in a Mac Donald's then why can't Alice do that now?

MBSD · 28/01/2023 13:54

VeraLynnTookMyCoat · 28/01/2023 13:42

*There's always one.

Alice is not the victim you think she is.*

She is I'd lay money on it.

I bet Ioan's never contemplated suicide, I bet Alice has.

She didn't deserve all this.

This was 2 months before he told her he wants to seperate, does this sound like a victim to you that loved her husband?

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Habber · 28/01/2023 13:55

No, they started trying already.
Alice wrote this article all about it…

Alice article

JammyThing · 28/01/2023 13:56

It's scary how many people are suggesting that he should live his life treading on eggshells and doing everything he can not to upset or anger her. Would you say the same about a woman who had left a marriage and was being harassed by her angry ex two years later for the crime of having another partner?

He's got a court ordered three year restraining order against her for DV. Do people honestly think they give those out like sweets? Or is it okay because he "drove her to it"? As in, look what he made her do? Victim blaming 101.

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:57

Shoogly · 28/01/2023 13:54

I'd always imagined pre-nups would include the eventuality of having kids and make provision accordingly. Why would you make one that didn't?

If Ioan could have stayed on LA and got a job in a Mac Donald's then why can't Alice do that now?

They began IVF before they married
she was trying and talking IVF at 37
she married Ioan age 40

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 13:58

Shoogly · 28/01/2023 13:54

I'd always imagined pre-nups would include the eventuality of having kids and make provision accordingly. Why would you make one that didn't?

If Ioan could have stayed on LA and got a job in a Mac Donald's then why can't Alice do that now?

In many jurisdictions pre nups become void once children are born. But on any view a pre nup giving only a 10% claim is inequitable. Where I live it would be set aside just for being so beyond what's reasonably fair.

She must have really loved him to sign that.

She should get a job. I don't know how employable she is though. According to IG she's in bed all the time, drinking and taking pills.

Also I think she has fibromyalgia?

karamazing · 28/01/2023 13:59

Posting details of your personal life online is not living your life though. It is a narcissistic pastime invented ten years ago. They are both guilty on that count.
It is also a choice to avoid working at Chick'a'fil which would reliably pay the bills but is not glamorous.

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:00

They could both work at McDonalds.

She has no diagnosis of an illness, she even says she has none. She has what she thinks is fibro

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:03

karamazing · 28/01/2023 13:59

Posting details of your personal life online is not living your life though. It is a narcissistic pastime invented ten years ago. They are both guilty on that count.
It is also a choice to avoid working at Chick'a'fil which would reliably pay the bills but is not glamorous.

I’m sorry but do you follow him on social media? He doesn’t use it, he doesn’t seem to like it. He rarely posts anything. He’s never done an interview about Alice since the split. He did one for radio times about his TV show and the Mail twisted it. I understand having an opinion but that doesn’t make something a fact. He doesn’t use socials so I don’t think it’s fair to say he’s a narc using socials for attention

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 14:03

I don’t think either of them working at MacDonalds will pay to keep Ella in private school like she and Alice want.

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