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Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 00:46

Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

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luckylavender · 28/01/2023 14:03

Tamarindtree · 28/01/2023 00:55

She is unhinged and either is too arrogant to listen to anyone or has no family or friends who would have helped steer her away from the public spectacle she has made of herself.

i can’t see any man wanting to be with her after this.

Because having a man is the most important thing, right?

MBSD · 28/01/2023 14:05

StarsSand · 28/01/2023 13:58

In many jurisdictions pre nups become void once children are born. But on any view a pre nup giving only a 10% claim is inequitable. Where I live it would be set aside just for being so beyond what's reasonably fair.

She must have really loved him to sign that.

She should get a job. I don't know how employable she is though. According to IG she's in bed all the time, drinking and taking pills.

Also I think she has fibromyalgia?

When she signed it (assuming 10 % is even true, she lies all the time) Ioan was doing Fantastic 4, King Arthur etc. he was at least a B-list actor. Probably at the time she assumed that 10 % will be a lot.

Quite honestly, I find it very concerning that he gets blamed for it. She signed it and she didnt bother to change it either. No one forced her.

Plus, child support is excluded from the prenup. This is set according to California Law which tends to be more generous than in many other places. So the alleged 10 % is for spousal support, and why should that be higher just because you got kids?

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 14:08

MBSD · 28/01/2023 14:05

When she signed it (assuming 10 % is even true, she lies all the time) Ioan was doing Fantastic 4, King Arthur etc. he was at least a B-list actor. Probably at the time she assumed that 10 % will be a lot.

Quite honestly, I find it very concerning that he gets blamed for it. She signed it and she didnt bother to change it either. No one forced her.

Plus, child support is excluded from the prenup. This is set according to California Law which tends to be more generous than in many other places. So the alleged 10 % is for spousal support, and why should that be higher just because you got kids?

Because it's shit , MN would be in uproar if a SAHM was offered 10 percent and a 100k on a million dollar property. She can't be that shrewd or calculating when she was 40 she was a very good looking woman. She could have left him and snared a richer older bloke. She decided to sign and marry for some reason that's why I don't believe Ioan is a naive victim he's more shrewd than Alice.

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:11

I think it’s right to assume he’s better with money than she is. The house belonged to him before marriage. She might not even get spousal in the U.K. she wasn’t even on the deeds to the house. Child support in cali is really good. She has been an idiot. Don’t get distracted by the 10%. He would be paying loads in child support even with 50/50

Shoogly · 28/01/2023 14:14

It seems to me that neither of them are shrewd. They might have just had a standard one written and never bothered to question it. Neither of them seem to be living the life of a shrewd person.

This applies to the whole thing, they're both fucking it up. I think she was probably always batshit but he fancied her madly and now he shouldn't be surprised that she's acting batshit. None of us know, the same with any marriage. The only thing that is indisputable is that those kids deserve better.

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 28/01/2023 14:17

RudsyFarmer · 28/01/2023 08:18

I also inwardly 🙄🙄 at that comment.

Same here.

MBSD · 28/01/2023 14:18

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 14:08

Because it's shit , MN would be in uproar if a SAHM was offered 10 percent and a 100k on a million dollar property. She can't be that shrewd or calculating when she was 40 she was a very good looking woman. She could have left him and snared a richer older bloke. She decided to sign and marry for some reason that's why I don't believe Ioan is a naive victim he's more shrewd than Alice.

Alice claimed it was 300k not 100k (and I bet it isn't even true), and again, 10 % is for spousal support. Child support goes on top of it.

No one has explained so far why Alice didnt just said no and either dumped him or renegotiate it. No one has explained so far why Alice, in the knowledge that she supposedly doesnt have a good prenup (IF it's even true), didn't had any Plan B in case the marriage does fail.

It's also very common that wealthy people or people who assume to become wealthy protect their wealth, how is it their fault if the other party agrees to it? No one hold a gun to her head or fudged her signature (probably), so how is this on him?

Notatallanamechange · 28/01/2023 14:25

Surely just this divorce hasn’t solely brought them to the point he had to borrow money from his parents a couple months ago to pay the mortgage? Sounds as though they’ve consistently lived outwith their means.

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MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 14:26

Habber · 28/01/2023 13:41

No this all happened BEFORE his girlfriend
Alice was convinced he was in love with his mother and his mum was controlling him

Timeline as far as I can gather:

Jan 2021 IG leaves AE
March 2021 IG files for divorce
June 2021 starts relationship with BW
Oct 2021 IG announces relationship with BW
Prior to Jan 2022 IG moved in with BW.
Feb 2022 IG files for custody. Filing contains texts.

The daughter talks about his girlfriend in those texts. So obviously he wasn't talking to her on the phone. So he'd 'stepped back' as you say around the time of the new girlfriend, who he'd clearly been seeing since June.

I just read a court paper about his having to take handouts from his girlfriend to live. Why can't he just get an ordinary job until he gets more work? Shop work, hotel work, building site. Did he not make any friendships during all his films? Can't he do something within the film world that's not acting? Anything so he can pay his way.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 14:27

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:00

They could both work at McDonalds.

She has no diagnosis of an illness, she even says she has none. She has what she thinks is fibro

Yes. Why doesn't he work at McDonald's so he doesn't have to live off his girlfriend?

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:28

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 14:26

Timeline as far as I can gather:

Jan 2021 IG leaves AE
March 2021 IG files for divorce
June 2021 starts relationship with BW
Oct 2021 IG announces relationship with BW
Prior to Jan 2022 IG moved in with BW.
Feb 2022 IG files for custody. Filing contains texts.

The daughter talks about his girlfriend in those texts. So obviously he wasn't talking to her on the phone. So he'd 'stepped back' as you say around the time of the new girlfriend, who he'd clearly been seeing since June.

I just read a court paper about his having to take handouts from his girlfriend to live. Why can't he just get an ordinary job until he gets more work? Shop work, hotel work, building site. Did he not make any friendships during all his films? Can't he do something within the film world that's not acting? Anything so he can pay his way.

No one knew about BW till October, he was away for a little while but came back to LA between March and October. But this is when the divorce really turned sour

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:29

Sorry, the period between March and October things got a lot worse

diddl · 28/01/2023 14:34

I do wonder at he mindset(?) of some of these people.

I guess he wanted to make it big & wasn't content with regular work that would to most be a good income & afford a comfortable life.

I think I saw him on "who do you think you are" & iirc he seemed boring & up himself.

I mean if she wanted kids & she had to "blackmail" him to settle down I think that most on here would have told her that he was stringing her along & to get out way before!

musingsinmidlife · 28/01/2023 14:41

This thread has taken a bizarre turn - why aren't Alice, Ioan, and Bianca working at McDonalds?

I don't think it is all that straightforward in your 40s to rock up to random jobs with a Hollywood / TV acting resume and get work.

Is Alice really going to be hired at Target or Burger King?

Same with Ioan.

They likely both have some residuals that come in each month from past TV work but it isnt much.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 14:47

MBSD · 28/01/2023 13:47

He said in court documents that he only announced his relationship because Alice had called her shouting over the children's phone the name of his girlfriend (some people figured it out and told Alice) and Alice being Alice she immediately started posting a number of made up things (like that they are already dating for 3 years). I personally don't think that the caption he chosed was very wise and I dont think that it made it better, but he definitely didnt plan to announce it the way he did and Alice had already done it for him to the kids anyway.

It's none of Alice Evans business. It is the business of the children. When he realised his children knew, his priority should have been to make sure the children felt put first. Putting it out on Instagram to invite his fruends,abd the public to comment is a bit crass in my opinion. If he believes, as he says, that the mother of his children has a poor relation ship with alcohol and medication, who does nothing for the children, either in the way of hands on care nor about their education, he should be looking at trying to get full custody, surely. Where is social services (US equivalent) in all this?

You couldn't blame the children for thinking that their dad has put them second to his new girlfriend. Because either IG is as thick and as insensitive as a plank, or he's steering the narrative here.

karamazing · 28/01/2023 14:52

IG is a wrong 'un. He has gone from being put on a pedestal by his mum to being worshipped by Alice who cannot handle his betrayal. He is now with a disabled woman who literally relies on him to stay well at times so she will also be putting him on a pedestal. People like that are not going to behave maturely in a breakup. Explains the 10% - IG feeling that he is five times better than her when they married and AE accepting this.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 28/01/2023 14:53

musingsinmidlife · 28/01/2023 14:41

This thread has taken a bizarre turn - why aren't Alice, Ioan, and Bianca working at McDonalds?

I don't think it is all that straightforward in your 40s to rock up to random jobs with a Hollywood / TV acting resume and get work.

Is Alice really going to be hired at Target or Burger King?

Same with Ioan.

They likely both have some residuals that come in each month from past TV work but it isnt much.

None of them are that well known in the US, per my American friend. She'd never heard of them when all this started. And she's a fairly avid tv and film viewer.

Point is, it needn't be "big acting job or unemployed." Or "only can find work in Australia." They are ordinary humans and can do what ordinary people do to make a living. If the motivation is there.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 14:53

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 28/01/2023 14:03

I don’t think either of them working at MacDonalds will pay to keep Ella in private school like she and Alice want.

True, but at least he wouldn't have to take handouts from his girlfriend. Surely he'd have a bit of self-respect earning his own money.
Evans is living of him and he's living off his girlfriend. What a lovely couple they aren't.
Get a job, the pair of you.

DanseAvecLesLoup · 28/01/2023 14:54

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 14:08

Because it's shit , MN would be in uproar if a SAHM was offered 10 percent and a 100k on a million dollar property. She can't be that shrewd or calculating when she was 40 she was a very good looking woman. She could have left him and snared a richer older bloke. She decided to sign and marry for some reason that's why I don't believe Ioan is a naive victim he's more shrewd than Alice.

Well you think it is shit as I'm sure many within the collective hive mind of MN but she signed the pre nup freely. As alluded to already he was an established actor in both TV and Hollywood, not 'A lister', but clearly successful and one assumes earning a decent living and that 10% seemed like a decent sum. If his earnings have now been affected due to this very public and protected shitshow she can't really complain now that 10% is looking a bit paltry.

WaddleAway · 28/01/2023 14:57

alloalloallo · 28/01/2023 09:42

Yes, I agree.

I fell down a bit of a Ioan/Alice rabbit hole and came across the court documents. It’s pretty clear she was, and still is, an abusive horror.

There’s no evidence that he cheated, other than her say so, and her version of events have changed several times, and he announced his new relationship with 1 post on Instagram over a year later.

Flaunting his new relationship or attending work events with his partner? He doesn’t post on IG at all, and she doesn’t post much - plus they’ve been together for over a year, why shouldn’t she be able to post the odd photo on her own IG page.

Alice has been interfering with visitation, alienating his children - to the point he has asked the courts for reunification therapy and as for abandoning his children, he has been fighting for 50% custody and has paying for absolutely everything.

I felt sorry for her at the beginning, but the court documents are certainly quite eye opening. Courts don’t give out 3 year restraining orders for shits and giggles

He also only ‘announced’ the relationship on Instagram because AE had found out about it and was threatening to out them, so he announced before she could do so.
If you read the court documents she was abusive to IG for years before he ended the marriage. She told her young children she was going to find them ‘a new daddy’ years before they split. She wrote abusive letters to his parents, wrote to his employers disparaging him, criticised his looks, his personality and his career. If it was the other way round I wonder whether people would think it was acceptable behaviour.
Since the restraining order she has continued to abuse Ioan and his girlfriend on Twitter, obviously thinking she was immune from repercussions. Obviously, that’s not the case.
Yes I feel incredibly sorry for the children.

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 14:59

DanseAvecLesLoup · 28/01/2023 14:54

Well you think it is shit as I'm sure many within the collective hive mind of MN but she signed the pre nup freely. As alluded to already he was an established actor in both TV and Hollywood, not 'A lister', but clearly successful and one assumes earning a decent living and that 10% seemed like a decent sum. If his earnings have now been affected due to this very public and protected shitshow she can't really complain now that 10% is looking a bit paltry.

I'm sorry but fantastic 4 was a panned film , he's been in a few things..I remember him mostly from Hornblower which my dad used to put on when I was little. He wasn't Alist. Her own attorney must have been crap to be ok with her signing that especially when they had kids a few years later.. Yes that's the mentality she knows she's going to be left broke so may as well take him down as well.

musingsinmidlife · 28/01/2023 15:03

Rosiefifi · 28/01/2023 14:59

I'm sorry but fantastic 4 was a panned film , he's been in a few things..I remember him mostly from Hornblower which my dad used to put on when I was little. He wasn't Alist. Her own attorney must have been crap to be ok with her signing that especially when they had kids a few years later.. Yes that's the mentality she knows she's going to be left broke so may as well take him down as well.

She can and did earn her own money. She had a long career. She is as much an adult he is and can be just as financially responsible for herself as he can be.

karamazing · 28/01/2023 15:06

Isn't she a languages graduate? The problem is that she has not worked for so long that she may have a fear of starting again. It would also reduce how much she can claim from what she believes is his real pot of wealth.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 15:12

Habber · 28/01/2023 14:28

No one knew about BW till October, he was away for a little while but came back to LA between March and October. But this is when the divorce really turned sour

You say he stepped back when things started to get worse. You reckon it got worse March to October. It's going to take him at least a couple of months to decide to step back. So let's say May/June. Which is when he started dating Bianca although they'd been talking and friends for a year up to that point.

Anyway, the children might not have known they were dating but they discovered it in October, he'll have told them it started June. Pretty sure at 13, the oldest one could figure out his 'stepping back' coincided with his new girlfriend's arrival on the scene.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 28/01/2023 15:13

karamazing · 28/01/2023 15:06

Isn't she a languages graduate? The problem is that she has not worked for so long that she may have a fear of starting again. It would also reduce how much she can claim from what she believes is his real pot of wealth.

Yes, one would think she could work as a translator or tour guide or something.

When we went to LA we paid a non-celebrity $800 for a day-long private tour of the area; she was fabulous! Alice could generate some similar business targeting foreign tourists.

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