Apologies another dog thread

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When in the actual fuck is this going to end?! Absolutely heartbreaking!! What is possessing people to either A. Get dogs they cannot contain?!! B. Get dog breeds totally beyond there control/capacity!

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Many people get hospitalised by cats! Nasty bites and scratches, from cats.

Someone made a great suggestion on here recently, about having minimum space requirements for each breed. It would reduce the number of bigger dogs being kept.

That would be helpful. It wouldn't stop the really irresponsible folk but it would be easier to police than most methods.

Small dogs are unlikely to be able to kill an adult. The increase of untrained, off lead small dogs makes it more likely that a small dog could be the aggressor in an incident where someone is seriously injured or killed.

There is a border terrier locally that absolutely goes for my bigger dog, luckily my dog (on lead btw) just wants to get away. If she had a go back, it wouldn't work out very well for the terrier and I can imagine the owner would want to intervene, as would I.

There is a huge problem with untrained dogs generally, along with owners thinking their dog is equal to humans around them. Current dog laws are not enforced either. It is a big problem.

People that get an XL Bully or a Cane Corso are not responsible, reasonable people, and I'm steering well clear. There is a mum that brings her Cane Corso (cropped ears) on the school run. How thick can you be?

no, what doesn’t make sense @Lockheart is you, and so many others, berating the OP for their writing, punctuation and idiosyncratic form of expression, when it’s easy enough to know what they are saying.

So many of you who are having a pop at the OP are doing it because their arguments have touched a nerve. Just be honest; it’s more fun when you are.

I think it's far too soon to speculate and very unfair on the victims loved ones, as they will be awaiting confirmation from police etc as to what happened but will be hearing/seeing lots of speculation.

Very very upsetting thing to happen and I cannot imagine what her loved ones must be going through. RIP x

Yep, the OP has committed the well known MN crime of having a rather colloquial way of expressing herself.

I live nearby too and it’s a popular dog walking spot up there. But as they said no speculating - guess we will find out in time what happened

This is whatabouttery at its very finest. Ridiculous post

A cockapoo is a cross breed not a mongrel, as it’s a mix of 2 breeds.

@SavoirFlair I was replying to Lieselotte, a couple of posts above mine. Somewhat tongue in cheek I admit. But I was recently hospitalised by a cat as was a friend and know no one who has been by a dog... I suspect dogs give a more serious but less frequent injury. But I'm only guessing.

You’re absolutely right @SavoirFlair and you’ve said it well. If the thread had been started by a ‘known’ MN poster or if it had been expressed a little less emotionally they wouldn’t have had a problem. But someone makes spelling errors and/or uses text speak or slang and they are fair game for officious MNetters. Le sigh.

At any rate, there has been a huge increase in fatal dog attacks and unusually a lot of the victims have been grown adults.

So yes. It needs to be talked about. A view does not need to be expressed well to have a good point.

I think this user is talking more about bouncy dogs knocking over people who are unsteady on their feet rather than a cockapoo savaging someone.

At a guess it will be the type of injury from a cat. Sharp puncture wounds get infected very easily and cats can also harbour some nasty bacteria

I think this user is talking more about bouncy dogs knocking over people who are unsteady on their feet rather than a cockapoo savaging someone.

It's still silly, when was the last time you heard if someone being killed after being knocked over by their bouncy pet. It's also rather disingenuous because at the risk of being accused of speculation, I highly doubt that's what happened here either

A bit silly, yes. But as usual this thread has morphed into one about poorly behaved dogs generally. I don't think it's outrageous to think that frail people can easily be knocked down by a dog and that if they were they could break bones. I can see why someone like that might avoid their local park, even though a walk round it would probably do them a lot of good.

As the owner of a giant breed, I fully support licensing, I fully support a all dogs on leads in public open spaces. I fully support mandatory training and certification for dogs.

I know what everyone is inferring, that the dog is going to be a XL bully breed, and I agree more needs to be done about this breed. They have proven to be extremely volatile and involved in many deaths.

I'm just not keen on the idea of every giant or pastrol breed being illegal. Some of the breeds in this group are actually known for their gentle nature, family orientated demeanor, mastiffs for example are a known breed to be exceptionally good with children. They do have a "guarding" instinct but you won't find many mastiffs or even bullmastiffs rampaging for a fight, they are happy and content with their humans and their property, just don't burgle their house.

I live in an area where the XL Bully is a statement dog, and it's a nightmare to walk your own well behaved gentle dog because you are always worried one will jump out.

While I haven't agreed with everything @EvenleyWitch has said, the OP has posted in an hysterical and dramatic tone. The overuse of exclamation points and capitalisation (annoying, but not a crime) is case and point. The police have requested that people not speculate, which is exactly what the OP is inciting. It is good and entirely appropriate to discuss the dangers posed by uncontrolled dogs, but the hysteria about a specific open case can invoke vigilante justice, especially as the local area has been named many times.

This. I see the know-it-alls are out in force again.

I have small terrier type dogs and they could give a bite, probably bruise and break the skin, but serious injury? Very doubtful. Even if i was unconcious and naked its highly unlikely they could kill me. And getting sepsis from a dog bite which goes on to kill you is not being killed by a dog. Honestly, your argument gets more ridiculous every time you post.

I own several GSDs and the issue that I always flag on threads like this is I (or so I like to think) am a responsible owner. They are well bred, well trained and well socialised, not one of them would race off after / up to a person, horse, cow, sheep, dog, cat or small furry. Any extra legislation that came in - whether that be licencing, assessments, leash only in public places etc I would follow. So my dogs are not an issue to anyone other than people who dislike or are afraid of just seeing them out and about.

There is a woman down in the village who has a husky and a lab. She is not a responsible owner. Her husky has killed several cats, her lab is small dog aggressive (from being attacked previously). I don't know about their breeding, but they are poorly trained, poorly socialised, have no recall, pull on a lead if she bothers to put them on one, and absolutely would and have bit other animals and the people who have intervened to stop them. Given she doesn't follow the current law about dogs being under control and having her husky muzzled I doubt very much she'd follow any further legislation. Her dogs are 100% a problem but no-one is ever screaming for her type of dogs to be banned.

There is always so much argument and whataboutery about which breeds to ban, when, to my mind at least, it is really quite simple. Look at all the deaths of people killed by dogs in the last few years, make note of the same breed culprits again and again and again, and go from there. There will be no surprises.

Well its going to be mostly your Bullys and XL bullys isn't it, but thats just because they are the dog in fashion with the type of owner that really shouldn't have dogs. In the early 2000s is was Rotties and GSDs.

Statistically the %age of fatal dog attacks is miniscule and to ban an entire breed based on the smallest percentage of that breed causing a death seems overkills, especially without doing something to just stop that breed being replaced by another.

What a horrific way to die. I don't let my kids out alone because of the dog problem. This is no way to live. Time we banned dangerous breeds. Anything capable of killing a human should be euthanised.
RIP

Yes, there is definitely that element that complicates things. However, one of the reports said that deaths caused by dogs this year was at its highest ever number. So the recent trends of breed of dog is increasing the problem. That in itself tells a story.