Family missing with newborn....

[ChocChocYum]

www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/23233264.bolton-m61-appeal-help-finding-missing-family-newborn-baby/

Where are they? How can they go missing? Hope they are ok

I read it that the poster was referring to the parents

I read I that way first, too, as there's no punctuation... SS definitely do make bad decisions but since they've had strong enough evidence to have other children removed... don't think we can blame them here

Yeah, I read that as “Social Services are probably after the baby (ie looking for the baby). They’re* total scum bags.”
*the parents.

But who knows, grammar and punctuation can change meaning!

I'm not usually the grammar police, but this is why punctuation, capital letters and sentences matter.

i imagine they went to newhaven to go to france, but how can you slope off to france? unless you are a stowaway , you need a passport, i spose they have money, which is good for them.
now thought to be camping in the area.

It doesn't seem to stop people coming in the other direction in small boats and underneath lorries, and there aren't really any checks for stowaways leaving Britain, only coming in. If they were doing it less DIY though all they'd need would be a sympathetic skipper of a small boat who dislikes social services or can't see what the fuss is about.

If they never showed up again one horrific theory could be that they attempted a small boat crossing, sank, and no one knew. But it's baseless speculation really.

CM's mum has issued an appeal
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/constance-marten-missing-bolton-tent-b2277128.html?amp

Fairly clear references to the baby being removed (or not) in her letter.

It also sounds like MG is the core problem - she makes reference to wanting to help CM and the baby and nothing of MG.

Nothing terribly surprising, just further evidence of what many had already surmised.

Thanks for sharing that I hadn’t seen it but yes the letter is very much confirming what we all know.

Thanks for sharing the update!
Seems to be a heartfelt letter from her mum, despite what I've seen people saying on Facebook that its not 🤦‍♀️

Facebook comments I noticed, I've blocked out people's names as I presume we can't show them here!

Interestingly her mother is a counsellor / psychotherapist so I'm sure the letter is well thought out.

It's certainly more convincing than the message from Mark Gordon's mother when she claimed he was a 'good boy'!

Really didn't realise that was her profession. I agree it's well thought out & I think it sounds very sincere.

I do wonder if the buying a tent in argos by the dad was a decoy move to throw the police off the scent.

My best guess is that they are either being harboured by friends perhaps in an outbuilding or attic or they have in fact managed to bribe their way on to the continent.

I do believe if they were camping in thr countryside they'd have been found by now, and the baby very possibly not survived in the cold temperatures. So I hope I am right they ate not camping in uk!

I thought that too they would have known they would have been caught on cctv in a city centre surely? It could all have been well planned, unless of course they're living a chaotic life. The car they tried to burn out points to a chaotic life surely, as they drew more attention to themselves that way & with the placenta being discovered.
Surely they'll at least got their hands on another car so could at least be sleeping in that.

I do wonder if some sort of drugs possibly crack was related to the car burning out.

Cars don't usually just burst into flame do they.

Clearly the baby was intended to be removed from constance so there's some sort of neglect issue as she had her other children removed, either drug use and/ or he's a rapist although he served his sentence and was convicted a long time ago.

They have not been seen for a month now and if sleeping rough would need to go for nappies/ food etc and be seen on cctv.

They must either have someone hiding them or left the country.

I think the tent was a decoy. They had plenty time to plan this. I think they are with friends. They’ve been living off grid since 2016. They know what they are doing.

I just hope they are all safe and well.

Could they have burnt out the car though in an attempt to destroy the placenta/evidence of birth?
You could well be right though.
It would be better if someone was hiding them at least they'd have shelter.

Why didn’t they leave before she had the baby that’s the bit I don’t get? They obviously had the money to and would have known social was going to take this baby because they’ve taken the others? They are not stupid and would have known they weren’t going to be allowed to keep this one.. hmm

They didn’t burn the car out. It’s been stated in MAM that it was a mechanical fault. This threw a spanner in the works for their plan.

My guess is they'd planned to leave the UK for Republic of Ireland via Liverpool before the baby was born, but either they'd got their dates wrong (easy to do with no antenatal care) or the baby came a bit early. Going to Ireland to escape social services is a fairly well trodden path as the perception is they're less likely to remove children.

www.irishpost.com/news/british-families-flee-to-ireland-to-escape-threat-of-social-services-63574

However, it all went wrong with an earlier than expected labour and the car catching fire (known to be a mechanical fault) and sending their belongings up in flames, possibly including her passport (he's known not to have one). Travelling to Ireland by ferry doesn't need a passport especially if you're going via Belfast.

I hope someone is harbouring them because if not the baby is sleeping rough. If they are sleeping rough, and they've got any sense, they've probably set up their tent in a disused barn or other outbuilding so they're not noticeable to passersby.

i spose they could have taken the tent to france

sussex.news/sussex/local-councillor-speaks-out-over-reports-of-search-for-missing-couple-and-4-week-old-in-newhaven/12346/

Seems strange they're not backing up his story if it's true?
Maybe they wanted the search to be lowkey & not all over socials and someone had gone rogue & told him to fb it?

How odd. The Met police?? Wow. They really want to find these people. I’m not 100% sure it’s for welfare reasons.

Usually mothers who abscond from social services intending to remove a baby are taken seriously by the police aren't they ? But to this extent?

This is a strange case though, surprised none of their friends or contacts would not hide them, the 10k reward is unusual too. Maybe to avoid that very possibility.