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Family missing with newborn....

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ChocChocYum · 07/01/2023 21:49

www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/23233264.bolton-m61-appeal-help-finding-missing-family-newborn-baby/

Where are they? How can they go missing? Hope they are ok

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ThisGirlNever · 28/01/2023 23:01

LaTangerina · 28/01/2023 22:49

No way ... even on a plane?!
Seriously if that's true that would be helpful to me.
I'll read through the link tomorrow (too tired now).
Do you know offhand what other forms of ID are acceptable for flying on a plane to the UK from ROI or vice versa if you've no passport or driver licence?
It would save me having to renew 3 passports in a hurry this year 😅

AER Lingus state that British and Irish citizens can travel using photo driving licences. Children under the age of 16 don't require ID if travelling with parents.

www.aerlingus.com/prepare/passports-and-visas/travel-to-from-britain/

Family missing with newborn....
LaTangerina · 29/01/2023 08:23

ThisGirlNever · 28/01/2023 23:01

AER Lingus state that British and Irish citizens can travel using photo driving licences. Children under the age of 16 don't require ID if travelling with parents.

www.aerlingus.com/prepare/passports-and-visas/travel-to-from-britain/

Ah thank you. I don't have have drivers licence though so I guess I better pay to renew my passport.

LaTangerina · 29/01/2023 08:25

ThisGirlNever · 28/01/2023 23:01

AER Lingus state that British and Irish citizens can travel using photo driving licences. Children under the age of 16 don't require ID if travelling with parents.

www.aerlingus.com/prepare/passports-and-visas/travel-to-from-britain/

I do have government ID though 🧐
Thanks so much for finding that for me & bringing it to my attention

Isthismymonth · 29/01/2023 09:51

ThisGirlNever · 28/01/2023 23:01

AER Lingus state that British and Irish citizens can travel using photo driving licences. Children under the age of 16 don't require ID if travelling with parents.

www.aerlingus.com/prepare/passports-and-visas/travel-to-from-britain/

Would a provisional license work?

ThisGirlNever · 29/01/2023 10:08

I don't see why not, so long as it's still valid and not expired.

bellac11 · 29/01/2023 10:23

Its unlikely they wouldnt get spotted at an airport

Plus the child doesnt have a birth certificate

lalalalalaalalala · 29/01/2023 12:26

I hope they are well. All 3 of them.

LaTangerina · 29/01/2023 18:58

lalalalalaalalala · 29/01/2023 12:26

I hope they are well. All 3 of them.

Yes I hope so too.

LaTangerina · 29/01/2023 18:59

bellac11 · 29/01/2023 10:23

Its unlikely they wouldnt get spotted at an airport

Plus the child doesnt have a birth certificate

Could she have carried the baby through in her coat, if on the ferry they might have managed this. Although surely they would have checked cctv.

LaTangerina · 30/01/2023 10:47

I'd hazard a guess they've been found & are all safe because the media has gone quiet & no fresh appeal.

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 30/01/2023 11:07

LaTangerina · 30/01/2023 10:47

I'd hazard a guess they've been found & are all safe because the media has gone quiet & no fresh appeal.

When they find a missing person who they had issued a public appeal for, they publish that they've been found 'safe and well', albeit with no further details.

Otherwise when this person reappeared and tried to go about their normal life, they'd be receiving sightings left right and centre from the public, and the formerly missing person would probably feel uncomfortable with well meaning strangers taking photos as evidence of such sightings.

One recent Met Police case where this happened was Owami Davies
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/23/owami-davies-found-safe-eight-weeks-vanished/

No news just means they haven't any updates they want to put into the public domain. We don't know if they've had zero leads or they've had lots and are about to make a breakthrough and don't want to spook CM & MG.

LaTangerina · 30/01/2023 12:00

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 30/01/2023 11:07

When they find a missing person who they had issued a public appeal for, they publish that they've been found 'safe and well', albeit with no further details.

Otherwise when this person reappeared and tried to go about their normal life, they'd be receiving sightings left right and centre from the public, and the formerly missing person would probably feel uncomfortable with well meaning strangers taking photos as evidence of such sightings.

One recent Met Police case where this happened was Owami Davies
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/23/owami-davies-found-safe-eight-weeks-vanished/

No news just means they haven't any updates they want to put into the public domain. We don't know if they've had zero leads or they've had lots and are about to make a breakthrough and don't want to spook CM & MG.

Ok that makes sense, thank you.

FriedEggChocolate · 30/01/2023 12:27

@LastOfTheChristmasWine thank you for that link. I had no idea they'd found Owami.

Andypandy799 · 30/01/2023 15:38

CatLoaf · 28/01/2023 22:06

What a lovely fella you sound @Andypandy799

Why because I think some people are not fit to be parents. I know someone who has had 7 babies removed due to drugs yet she keeps having more. So you think it’s good she keeps on having babies then?

TokyoSushi · 31/01/2023 09:46

Just come up on Sky News just now that there's now a £10J reward for information. It must be very serious as the police seem determined to find them.

TokyoSushi · 31/01/2023 09:46

£10K

LaTangerina · 31/01/2023 09:58

TokyoSushi · 31/01/2023 09:46

Just come up on Sky News just now that there's now a £10J reward for information. It must be very serious as the police seem determined to find them.

Thanks for the update, I'm guessing family may have put it up?
Says as well that definitely believe they're sleeping rough. I wonder did they stay in London.

SpinningFloppa · 31/01/2023 10:02

Wow

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 31/01/2023 10:07

I think the £10k shows they're short on leads but think someone out there knows more than they're letting on, and are hoping the money will loosen their lips.

The family might have put up the reward, but they don't seem terribly engaged in the whole affair - not publicly anyway, and if it had been them I'd expect it to say "the family are offering" not "detectives are offering a £10k reward"

More likely IMO is that the police have decided £10k is cheap compared to all the staff time that's going on this case.

MeinKraft · 31/01/2023 10:43

I guess at this stage they can't just say fuck it, we're calling off the search, with the whole of the Uk knowing the baby is out there somewhere. Hopefully the 10k reward works.

I read an article saying they dumped their pushchair which I find a bit worrying.

Diynoidea · 31/01/2023 11:08

Yeah the bbc article says they were last seen 8th Jan and took a taxi to Newhaven on the coast which I don’t think we’ve been told before? They had dumped the pushchair on brick lane the day before

Diynoidea · 31/01/2023 11:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64465612.amp

Andante57 · 31/01/2023 13:15

The family might have put up the reward, but they don't seem terribly engaged in the whole affair - not publicly anyway.

Constance’s father and Mark Gordon’s mother have put out pleas for them to hand themselves in.
Now maybe the families of the missing couple have been told to keep a low profile.
None of us know what’s going on behind the scenes.

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 31/01/2023 13:19

Andante57 · 31/01/2023 13:15

The family might have put up the reward, but they don't seem terribly engaged in the whole affair - not publicly anyway.

Constance’s father and Mark Gordon’s mother have put out pleas for them to hand themselves in.
Now maybe the families of the missing couple have been told to keep a low profile.
None of us know what’s going on behind the scenes.

They did put out an appeal but it took fully two weeks for them to do so.

I completely agree that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes (though we do know she's estranged from her family)

LaTangerina · 31/01/2023 13:33

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 31/01/2023 13:19

They did put out an appeal but it took fully two weeks for them to do so.

I completely agree that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes (though we do know she's estranged from her family)

Did they not just start looking for them after the car was found partially burnt out with placenta inside? They may have gone back through cctv to follow their movements after this.
Not sure of the dates though.
I thought her dad's plea sounded quite heartfelt.

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