Family missing with newborn....

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www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/23233264.bolton-m61-appeal-help-finding-missing-family-newborn-baby/

Where are they? How can they go missing? Hope they are ok

Well, rape is horrific. Awful crime. But - he was very, very young for such a lengthy sentence.

We don't know that the crime he was jailed for is the only time he's raised concerns and he's been fine since he was released. Her kids were probably removed because of ongoing abuse.

I've just read the latest Daily Fail article.

200 Officers are working on the case. That's a huge expense.

I imagine they haven't willingly cooperated with SS and this is what has lead to them being on the run. Poor baby

Yeah I guess there must be more to it than just the crime as that on its own doesn't make sense he was a child and the crime wasn't towards children (again im not defending it!) Bizarre case

There was speculation in another newspaper (can't remember which) that drugs might be involved. They've lived a dysfunctional life the past few years in the not so nice parts of London, been evicted and left flats damaged.

Wondering how on earth they met in the first place

I just saw it in the bbc as well
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64320904
haven’t they been found ??

@Tamarindtree I've not seen that before

I'm shocked this is being so intensively worked. I don't remember other cases where so much care was taken.

I heard it on the Radio 4 Six O'clock News too.

I suspect they've released the information about him being a sex offender as some people take the attitude that SS will snatch children for no reason and will therefore be withholding information from the police. Him being a sex offender might provide someone with a good enough reason to come forward.

@EasterIssland no they're still on the run with the baby. Seems like an extraordinary amount of resources are being used to find them.

Same here. There must be so much more we don't know.

Sentencing is a lot harsher stateside. But yeah, the police clearly know something…

It was a rape and kidnapping of a woman in her 20s during a burglary according to the Times. All three of those are serious crimes on their own, when combined it’s quite alarming a 14 year old could do that.

Lots of background info about ‘talented actress and linguist’ Constance Marten’s aristocratic connections emerging in the media plus the fact that ‘100 officers’ are working the case. Not sure that her background is germane but the way it’s being reported suggests that it’s why the case is getting so much police attention. There must be more to this than is being reported. Hope they find them safe.

The photo released of Constance looks to be a mug shot, so she must have been in custody too at some point, presumably.

So sad. Where are their other children I wonder, who is looking after them?

It is very strange

I wonder if the evidence suggests she might have some retained placenta which would obviously make it much more critical to find her as she could end up extremely ill

I'm just coming to the seriousness of this... How much danger is the baby thought to be in?

Hard to hide very long in GB.

I think it’s more likely the evidence suggests they aren’t able to met their baby’s needs rather than the placenta has been retained.

It’s been two weeks since she gave birth so she’d probably be quite poorly now if she had a retained placenta and the risk to her baby would be negligible but they keep saying it needs to be checked over.

I used to work in a hospital and we had a very similar situation to this. A heavily pregnant mum went missing from A&E and police appealed for help finding her, even using similar language to this appeal. The mum was actually a drug addict who’d already given birth to multiple babies who were addicted to heroin and didn’t have custody. She’d been told her baby would be removed at birth (best practice is to discuss well in advance if planned) so she ran when she thought labour was starting. She didn’t have the same resources at Constance so didn’t get too far before they found her.

I don’t have any idea if they’re using drugs but it doesn’t look great either way. They’ve been living a chaotic lifestyle in temporary accommodation after being evicted from a flat they trashed and damaged with fire, don’t seem to have custody of their other kids and the father is a registered sex offender. Those are just the details we know, there could be much more. And the police obviously feel it’s a high risk scenario, 200 is a lot of people.

@Forthelast sadly I can see drugs being a factor in all of this.

So tiny to be at the center of so much controversy. I hope they're found and brought to a safe place quickly.

'There is nothing to suggest that any of them have come to any sort of intentional harm – we just need to ensure they are OK, especially the baby, and do not require any medical assistance for any underlying issues'

It seems so disproportionate, the messaging and the actual response. Would this happen for other missing families? I don't know, I've never seen it.

@rrrrrreatt i think you’re spot on! I’ve seen these cases a few times! Drugs l, abusive partner with criminal past social services have probably wanted her lots of times she needs to leave him/clean up her act they knew the baby would be taken away that’s why they are on the run. I hope they are found soon. She’s a white upper class woman that’s why this is getting so much coverage.