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My son was arrested

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polkadotpenny · 02/01/2023 01:06

NC for this little beauty and it's going to be a long one, so please bare with me.

Little bit of background. My son is mid 20s, been dating this girl who was 22 for about 6 months. I met her four times and on each occasion I got a bad feeling about her. Anyway, this one time she was around and I was chatting to her and she said something like 'he's so
annoying', so I asked her what was he doing that annoyed her and she replied 'he's too nice, he always asks if I need anything or if he can get me anything and I don't like it.' I was stunned at her dislike of a man being kind and I told her how I would have love to have a man who cared so much. When she went home I told my boy that I just felt there was something not quite right about her. Couldn't put my finger on it but I told him to be wary.

Fast forward end of November my son went to stay at his girlfriends as he did on his days off (she lived with her family). He will generally message me to tell me when he's leaving to come home, this day, nothing. Hours and hours went by, nothing. Finally 10pm the next night I get a call. He had been arrested but from the police phone he couldn't tell me anything. They still hadn't interviewed him at that point. Finally at 1am they released him on bail, to go back at the end of January.

What happened was, they were at a club and she got really pissed and was in a mood, started a row and walked off. My son didn't want her walking the streets alone so he tried to stop her by grabbing her wrist as she was in no fit state to go anywhere. She then walked back into the club and from there apparently called the police to get my son arrested for common assault.

... it got worse.

She wrote a statement stating dates and times where my son had sexually assaulted her, regularly 'beat' her, threatened her with a gun, broke her belongings, carried cocaine with him and on the night in question grabbed her round the throat outside the club and tried to strangle her.

Reading the statement it made me feel sick. It was so unbelievable, but I knew it was all bullshit because how can she tell me he's too nice and then say he's doing all these horrible things?

During this my son was suspended from work due to his arrest.

A few days after the arrest his ex's mother came to collect a few of her belongings that were left behind and even she said 'I have no idea why she's doing this, he's a lovely lad and I've told her to drop it'.

Her statement was all lies. On the dates where these things apparently happened, my son pulled up his rota from work and he had been doing 7am-10pm shifts and when he does those shifts he comes straight home (she lived about 30 miles away, I would have known if he'd got home late or not
come in at all as he would have messaged to let me know and on the dates I just got messages saying 'leaving work now'), so he couldn't have been at hers on those days and his work confirmed he was there.

The cocaine she said he had carried with him was a mini bag of FLOUR, the police took it from her house after he was arrested and obviously tested it! He makes music videos and it was a 'prop'. So that was a bit embarrassing for her.

The threatening with the gun we produced pics where she had held a gun at him (he has BBs that he uses for
target practice and all registered in his name), it was her holding the gun
at him, not the other way round. The police searched my house without anyone being there looking for more drugs and also took all his guns!

Over the last few weeks I've been in touch with the detective in charge of the investigation and she asked to see as much evidence to prove my son was innocent. So on the days where all the apparent abuse/violence happened I got my son to screenshot the conversations the day before, the day off the abuse and the day after, because if any kind of shit went down the conversation would definitely show something. There was nothing! What the detective did say was that none of it made any sense because if he'd been so awful early on in the relationship why not just block him? Why keep inviting him over? They didn't live together so ghosting him would have been simple, instead she was telling him she missed him and wanted him over.

The last piece of the investigation was the CCTV footage from outside the club where my son had apparently tried to strangle her. This took a bit longer to obtain, however it finally was and surprise surprise HE DIDN'T DO IT! All it showed was her stumbling away and my son trying to stop her.

Yesterday we got the news that they've closed he investigation (NFA). His ex literally fabricated the entire thing!

All we are waiting for now is a letter so he can hand to his head office to say he was fucking innocent the whole time
and he's getting all his bb guns back that they took from my house!

So, obviously this has been incredibly stressful. My son is autistic and has mental health issues and the way he regulates this is by the routine of his job. Because of her BS, his routine and his
mental health has really been affected. He couldn't make sense why she'd do this when he had only ever been lovely to her. Seeing my son sob was heartbreaking.

What his pissed me off is that she's not going to be punished for lying. Wasting police time. I did ask the detective and this is what she said 'Unfortunately not, this is the unfair part of my job, where we cannot look to prosecute DV ‘victims’. And I agree, this could have been very damaging.

Anyway, thank goodness, it's all over but it's been hell, but gutted there's nothing we can do against her lying.

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 02/01/2023 10:07

Charlize43 · 02/01/2023 07:53

She sounds like an Amber. What a nasty, vindictive piece of work.

You do know that much of what she said was proven to be true?

happinessischocolate · 02/01/2023 10:08

OP please do seek legal advice to make sure she stays away from him. It will help clear his name with work etc if he does this, plus as he's young there a chance he could get back with her if she's that manipulative.

Whilst he's done nothing wrong, now would be a good time to point out why drugs etc in music videos is not cool.

BabyFour2023 · 02/01/2023 10:09

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/01/2023 01:57

So, he carries around pretend bags of cocaine, has weapons that can and do kill people (babies and children generally) or at least scare people into thinking they're real and likes to make tiktok videos with them, pretending to be some sort of gangster.

This… I don’t think she’s the only one embarrassed that a grown man throws a mini bag of flour around infront of his phone camera :/

Prescottdanni123 · 02/01/2023 10:09

@PAFMO

He doesn't make tiktok videos using drugs, that was made up by another poster. He doesn't carry fake weapons either. He does target practice and airport. I do archery practice and have bow and arrows. He doesn't carry fake drugs. He uses a bag of flour in music videos. And we don't know what the theme of these music videos are. He might be trying to raise awareness on drugs for all we know.

FloydPepper · 02/01/2023 10:12

polkadotpenny · 02/01/2023 10:04

@3WildOnes

I can't see how a man making videos and doing airsoft automatically means he's an abuser. But obviously a man can make videos, use BB guns harmlessly without being a disgusting, violent man who sexually assaults his partner, as there is literally no evidence and as I stated in my OP post, all the days he apparently did it, he was at work, it NEVER happened! Not forgetting zero CCTV footage of him doing what she accused him of. He's innocent, so YES, surprisingly the two things can be totally separate.

As a previous poster said, you’ll get a lot of responses that start from the assumption that he’s to blame, he’s in the wrong, it’s his fault. It must be the man to blame and the woman blameless. You can see them very clearly on this thread so please ignore those posts.

false accusations can be awful. It must have been very stressful for you both

Wonnle · 02/01/2023 10:14

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pigsinoodies · 02/01/2023 10:15

kittensinthekitchen · 02/01/2023 09:36

Slightly off topic, but how does one go about registering as a vulnerable adult? With who?

Well you can register an ASD diagnosis and get a card to show the police - for what it's worth.

But then again you can just self-identity as 'vulnerable' on arrest anyway.

polkadotpenny · 02/01/2023 10:15

@redbigbananafeet

He doesn't glamorise gun use in any video, that's for airsoft only.

The little bag of flour I was incorrect, that was used on the cover for one of his songs, didn't actually appear in the music video itself.

My son isn't perfect, like most 20 something men, however, what he isn't is violent. I've raised him alone since he was 4. Hes finally got job he loves and he wouldn't jeopardise that over a girl!

OP posts:
polkadotpenny · 02/01/2023 10:19

@PAFMO

I've already said he doesn't make TikTok videos! I never said TikTok. I never said he publishes these videos anywhere.

A man can make music videos, enjoy the process of creating music, writing lyrics, shooting a video and editing FOR HIMSELF. These videos, images aren't online, they're on his laptop, in a file.

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itsgettingweird · 02/01/2023 10:20

Do you know him?
I don't. But then, I don't know anybody who carries around fake coke, fake weapons and makes tiktok videos using them.

Oh please do cop on and learn to read.

He wasn't "carrying around drugs" - there was a bad of flour found in her home.

He doesn't "carry weapons around" - he does airsoft which is generally in disused warehouses or old forts and is a controlled environment. His BB guns were found at home.m

"Makes TikTok videos" - read again. The OP points out she did t say he makes TikTok videos but music videos.

I know some woman think all men must be guilty before even stepping out of the front door - but at least if you're challenging someone's version of events you need to challenge the facts as stated.

polkadotpenny · 02/01/2023 10:21

@Wonnle

What would you like to see, I can screenshot any email you'd like to show that what I'm saying is 100% true. Why would I bother lying? If my son had been
found guilty or was guilty I certainly wouldn't be online talking about it.

OP posts:
Unforgettablefire · 02/01/2023 10:23

She sounds unhinged, I'd ask the police to keep it on file because if she hasn't already got form for this she'll do it again.
Nasty piece of work these people should be prosecuted it's wasting police time at the least.
I hope your son recovers op and hasn't been put off women for life.

PAFMO · 02/01/2023 10:28

itsgettingweird · 02/01/2023 10:20

Do you know him?
I don't. But then, I don't know anybody who carries around fake coke, fake weapons and makes tiktok videos using them.

Oh please do cop on and learn to read.

He wasn't "carrying around drugs" - there was a bad of flour found in her home.

He doesn't "carry weapons around" - he does airsoft which is generally in disused warehouses or old forts and is a controlled environment. His BB guns were found at home.m

"Makes TikTok videos" - read again. The OP points out she did t say he makes TikTok videos but music videos.

I know some woman think all men must be guilty before even stepping out of the front door - but at least if you're challenging someone's version of events you need to challenge the facts as stated.

You appear not to have seen the word FAKE that I wrote before "drugs" and "weapons"

Confirmed by the OP. Who seems to have a lot of people she knows in real life posting on the thread and telling us exactly what happened. Which, to quote your username, very much is.

Facecream · 02/01/2023 10:29

Hi OP. Firstly I’m sorry your son and you were put through this ordeal. It sounds, to me, like the police did a very good job of searching through the evidence and deciding to NFA.

Im someone who reported a sexual assault to the police and was and the case was NFA-ed and hence I was tarred with “the mad brush”/ being a malicious person etc by his friends and colleagues.

I cannot fault the police however.

if it helps the CPS has published guidance on prosecution for malicious and false allegations and wasting police time. If you look through that maybe that would help settle some things for your piece of mind or give you an idea of where to go in the future should you wish to try to pursue compensation or something else.

SLS500 · 02/01/2023 10:31

Op I'm glad he's been vindicated and I hope you both get some justice and peace.

People are so tediously obtuse. Let's hope their own DSs don't cross a woman like this.

You've explained his hobbies, you don't need to justify anything further.

I hope you and your son can move forward now. I'd definitely look into counselling for your son too.

Prescottdanni123 · 02/01/2023 10:34

@PAFMO

No, we just read OP's posts properly instead of skim reading, latching onto invented narrative and jumping to daft conclusions.

FloydPepper · 02/01/2023 10:36

Prescottdanni123 · 02/01/2023 10:34

@PAFMO

No, we just read OP's posts properly instead of skim reading, latching onto invented narrative and jumping to daft conclusions.

I think you’ve just summarised 90% of mumsnet 😀

Bard6817 · 02/01/2023 10:36

Soontobe60 · 02/01/2023 10:07

You do know that much of what she said was proven to be true?

And many of her contradictions and lies have also been exposed.

I believe the Jury did their job.

Unfortunately she took real DV victims back a decade.

MrsCarson · 02/01/2023 10:37

Protect your son polkadotpenny. Go and see a solicitor and get a non molestation order against her, she does sound unhinged and will either try to have another go at him or will try this again with another man.

Wayk · 02/01/2023 10:44

Sorry your son had to go through what he went through. I would have thought she would be charged. Focus on your son, give him the love and reassurance he needs. She is not worth a thought. What a horrible thing to do.

hartytype · 02/01/2023 10:44

I'm so sorry your son went through this . It is upsetting to read.
I would strongly advise that you delete your post, as it is causing a lot of upset, and there are elements of it that are a big outing, and might cause further damage to him, especially if it is picked up by the newspapers

TinselTinselTinsel · 02/01/2023 10:45

I don't know anything about your son - but from what you've written - sounds like he is the victim in all this certainly.

One thing though - generally speaking - just because a woman says nice things about her partner "he is too nice to me", or says "i love you, i miss you etc" doesn't mean she isn't a victim of sexual abuse/control. There are plenty of women on here who are being abused and I bet they are still telling their husbands they love them. Being controlled/abused doesn't mean you stop saying nice things or even feeling love.

Basically the defence here is "if he was that bad - she would have left" - if that was true, domestic abuse wouldn't be so prevalent. Women often don't leave, often still tell men they love them, and they still shouldn't be blamed.

Carsontrack · 02/01/2023 10:46

What a dreadful thing to put your son through.
Unfortunately, this happens a lot.
Happened to my friend’s nephew when he was 16. He dumped his GF as she was too needy and she retaliated by reporting him for rape.
It eventually came out she was lying as dates and times didn’t add up but the lad ended up getting beaten up by lads at school even though he was innocent. She never got done for lying which is disgusting.

Winterpetal · 02/01/2023 10:48

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/01/2023 01:57

So, he carries around pretend bags of cocaine, has weapons that can and do kill people (babies and children generally) or at least scare people into thinking they're real and likes to make tiktok videos with them, pretending to be some sort of gangster.

i have to say ,this crossed my mind to
so he’s innocent,I get that
but he made it easy for her to do ,by the weapons ,and bags of flour .
i know lots of people,
but none who pretend bags of flour are drugs ,make videos about drugs or have BB guns ..
perhaps it’s all normal,and I’m just leading a sheltered live

FloydPepper · 02/01/2023 10:51

Winterpetal · 02/01/2023 10:48

i have to say ,this crossed my mind to
so he’s innocent,I get that
but he made it easy for her to do ,by the weapons ,and bags of flour .
i know lots of people,
but none who pretend bags of flour are drugs ,make videos about drugs or have BB guns ..
perhaps it’s all normal,and I’m just leading a sheltered live

Careful
im sure you don’t really mean that the victim of a crime is to blame because they made it easier for the perpetrator

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