Reasonable punishment for a 6 & 4 year old?

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Both went to stay at mums and absolutely traumatised her. They don’t act like this for me or their dad but they know how kind she is and have seen it as a weakness.

They spat on her tv and when she wiped it off they did it again! Tipped both their drinks over the dinner table.

im absolutely furious with them can’t believe they have treated my poor mum like this!

DS has gone to his room as he is the main instigator and DD is in the living room with me. Both feeling very sorry for themselves..

Maybe. Just thinking, especially re the 4 year old, there should be toys other than a laptop or ipad that would be a bigger punishment to take away!

It's full judgement. Not a judgy dig.

Or maybe, as the OP doesn't have these issues at home it's nothing to do with the iPad

Maybe. I was asking the OP to be honest though

Nice.

You are being lovely as well.

Well next time, make sure what you're saying makes sense before you judge

What have I done exactly? Apart from call you out?

Which bit doesn't make sense? I was just asking a question. A couple of you are being extremely defensive on the OPS behalf. I don't know why

call me out on what?! Do you think you have caught me out or something? I'm not trying to hide!! I am allowed to ask the OP whether she thinks they have too much screen time aren't I? What do you think you have called me out on exactly? Asking a question?

Spitting is a dirty habit are you sure this isn't usual behaviour OP? Personally your mum is to blame because if ANY child spat even ONCE on my TV I would explain to the kid we are now going home!

kids do play up at other people's houses but pouring drinks over is absolutely extreme. I think you should not of left both kids with their nan if there were issues with the other Grandma also.

You were hiding behind a judgmental question. Instead of just coming out and saying that at 4 and 6 it shouldn't be a punishment because they shouldn't have that much screen time to miss it.

Like I said. That have feck all to do with you. They could have 10 mins before school or 4 after. But it could still be enough of a punishment as the pp said.

The OP doesn't have these behavioural issues at home, so the amount of tablet time she give her children isn't the issue.

What you said wasn't logical. It didn't make sense.

A child that gets something as a treat will be more upset to lose it. So again, what you said didn't make sense. You were just being judgmental for the sake of it.

No I wasn't hiding! How would I know if they shouldn't have that much screen time? I don't know the bloody answer yet! What has fuck all to do with me? I am asking because it might be a reason for bad behaviour. That's my opinion. Which I am allowed to have, and I am allowed to ask that question and any other. The OP has the choice whether to answer me or not. Bloody hell.

Well I don't know yet if they are on it all the live long day or ten minutes after school do I? It wasn't for the sake of it. I literally asked the question.

But you were. Or you would have said that when asking the question. Bloody hell.

And I'm not extremely defensive.i think you've been extremely rude and are now annoyed people have pointed this out. Are you one of those people who "tells it like is" but is really just obnoxious and gets easily offended when people do it back to them?

I am pretty sure the OP would know why I was asking how much screen time they have in relation the behaviour THAT SHE HAS POSTED ABOUT

FOR WHAT OTHER REASON WOULD I BE ASKING

FFS

Well if they're on it all the live long day it's not the cause of the behavioural issues is it? Since they don't exist at home.

extremely rude? extremely? are you sure? that's quote dramatic! I am not annoyed no. Nor offended!

It's just a bit tiring when people are constantly looking for fights on here

@MoggyMittens23 you didn't say anything wrong IMO. I find some people on here love to take things the wrong way or get offended easily.

Hope you get the issue with your kids sorted OP. Best of luck.

Ok I am not sure what to say here. I just wanted to ask the OP, but you have taken it upon yourself to answer and now I am in a conversation with you about what may or may not be happening.

So, as far as Mumsnet is concerned we are not allowed to express a true fact, and an opinion. Delete away, so much for free speech. Why am I not surprised?

Lol their 6 & 4 they won’t even remember this in a week.

I think I would be phoning Father Christmas and seeing what he had to say about all this
The older one probably needs sterner treatment if he's egging on the younger one.
I'd be coming down very hard on them for this, little of not, but Granny needs to get cross with them at the time as well (and mean it)

I think you just need to make their life kind of hell for a few days/whole of this coming week with dire threats of Christmas presents being given to other children because they were so horribly naughty etc etc. make them sweat about not getting their Christmas presents but give them the opportunity to make amends through being very good, kind and helpful this week.