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Incident in Solihull

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YoSofi · 11/12/2022 17:30

Comments on news reports are saying that five children/young teens have gone through ice into a lake and are in a critical condition.

Really hope that all involved make a full recovery

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Untitledsquatboulder · 14/12/2022 07:45

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It's really not healthy for children to have no autonomy from adults at all. Most of us aim higher than "all in one piece" we want them to have some quality of life.

sashh · 14/12/2022 07:54

I watched some of the news today. The police and the firefighters have left lowers and held a min silence, I can't remember that happening before.

DarkKarmaIlama · 14/12/2022 07:55

It was a terrible, terrible accident and nothing more. No one was to blame.

Rest in peace beautiful boys. ❤️

panko · 14/12/2022 07:58

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speakout · 14/12/2022 08:01

Untitledsquatboulder · 14/12/2022 07:45

It's really not healthy for children to have no autonomy from adults at all. Most of us aim higher than "all in one piece" we want them to have some quality of life.

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I agree.
As a child I was a street runner in a huge poverty striken council estate.
From the age of 4 I would tag along with older kids, my mother would let me out for hours.
The group would change, some kids would go home or elsewhere, and I would often end up alone, or more usual with my best friend- my next door neighbour- she was three- I felt responsible for her because she was younger than me.
I saw many dreadful things.
Kids getting hit by cars, falling, my friend fell on a broken bottle and needed 12 stitches in her leg, I saw a boy fracture his skull in the playground, I witnessed a fatal drowning.
We would visit the home of a known local peadophile ( no idea at that age of course) he would invite us indoors and give us biscuits.

My mother now laughs it off saying " you always came home in one piece"

Needless to say I have parented my own children in a very different way.

Justthisonce12 · 14/12/2022 08:11

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tatertots44 · 14/12/2022 08:22

@Justthisonce12 you are showing yourself up here.

I will never understand people who see even the most tragic, awful accidents as an opportunity to boast about how such things would never happen to them because they are so clever and so much more responsible. It says so much about them that their mind would go there.

panko · 14/12/2022 08:23

Maybe a different thread about playing out etc might be an idea?

SinnerBoy · 14/12/2022 08:27

tatertots44

I will never understand people who see even the most tragic, awful accidents as an opportunity to boast about how such things would never happen to them because they are so clever and so much more responsible.

Like Jacob Rees Smug and Grenfell Tower.

Dreamwhisper · 14/12/2022 09:49

Untitledsquatboulder · 14/12/2022 07:45

It's really not healthy for children to have no autonomy from adults at all. Most of us aim higher than "all in one piece" we want them to have some quality of life.

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I really don't think knowing where your DC are when they're not even preteens yet is a stifling emotionally abusive childhood.

I'm a 90's baby and spent years of my very early childhood wondering around alone. I simply wouldn't do that today with my DC.

Why is it okay to cry that it's not okay at all to judge parents who let their kids play alone but rip the shit out of parents who say they don't?

Nobody expects something tragic like this to happen. Whether you let your DC play out alone or not.

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/12/2022 13:23

SinnerBoy · 13/12/2022 17:07

Emotionalsupportviper

The fishermen were near us.

Looks like we have a bit of a Geordie Mafia thing going here...

As you say, tragic, but entirely avoidable and for experienced, grown men, idiots.

Looks like we have a bit of a Geordie Mafia thing going here...

"Toonafia"

SinnerBoy · 14/12/2022 13:28

Sounds like a tropical fish...

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/12/2022 13:35

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 13/12/2022 17:26

There is a 6 year old in the group of kids on our street.

These kids could have been told a million times not to go near the water. They might not have even realised they were on the water. It could have been snow covered. This could have happened with adults present. You have no idea. So just stop.

You're obviously perfect and nothing bad will ever happen to you and yours so just leave it now and carry on up there on your podium

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This. ⬆

This sort of smug, "It would NEVER happen to my children!" parenting is bliddy cruel.

Just go away@peaceandove - we all know how perfect you are by now.

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/12/2022 13:50

MrsBrandonspiano · 13/12/2022 18:12

I have a 10 Yr old ds that does out to the park with his friends most weekends, there but for the grace oof god go I. This was not the parents fault at all.

Mine did too - went out with a group of other kids. The rule was "You go together and you stay together. Nobody gets left on their own even if you have a falling out. If one wants to come back, you all come back."

Very probably these boys followed the same rule. It isn't easy to let them develop confidence and independence and keep them safe, too.

What is so very tragic is if the oldest boy hadn't been so courageous, and had ignored his instinct to help his friend, got the others off the ice and alerted an adult, the chances are that they would all be alive and well (if somewhat shocked) now. Their combined weight was too much.

FWIW I don't blame the parents, I don't blame the children - if anyone is to blame (and there may not be anyone to blame) it is society for becoming complacent about this sort of danger - but who could guess that after our recent warm winters that anything as dreadful as this could happen.

We spend so much time protecting our children from stuff on the internet (rightly) bit it takes focus off dangers much closer to home.

Terryinblackpool · 14/12/2022 15:46

The Sun shouldn't have posted that video, But then they do have form don't they.

RafaistheKingofClay · 14/12/2022 16:48

The Sun are a bunch of cunts. They’ll post whatever they like regardless of any pain they might cause to grieving families.

PepsiMaxAholic · 14/12/2022 18:06

The 6 year old has died ☹️

JustCakeInDrag · 14/12/2022 18:06

Desperately sorry to learn that the six-year-old child has died.

HelpMeCope85 · 14/12/2022 18:12

Oh gosh. The indescribable pain of the families. What a tragedy. I can only think to send prayers to them all. Devastating.

Igotjelly · 14/12/2022 18:13

Life is so unbearably cruel, poor families. I know people go on about losing your child at Christmas but frankly I don't think it matters when you lose them. Your child(ren) is your entire life, every single day. These poor families will miss their children every single day for the rest of their lives and its absolutely unthinkable the pain that they will be going through. Absolutely heartbroken for them.

RocketIceLollie · 14/12/2022 18:16

😔 I was so hoping the little one would pull through. Poor little boy fought so hard to survive for a few more days.

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/12/2022 18:18

PepsiMaxAholic · 14/12/2022 18:06

The 6 year old has died ☹️

Oh no!

That is so sad - poor little boy, poor parents and family. How desperately they must have been hoping that he would survive.

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YoSofi · 14/12/2022 18:31

This is just awful.

Those poor, poor families

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ShirleyPhallus · 14/12/2022 18:35

PepsiMaxAholic · 14/12/2022 18:06

The 6 year old has died ☹️

This is so sad, I am so sorry for the families