Incident in Solihull

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Comments on news reports are saying that five children/young teens have gone through ice into a lake and are in a critical condition.

Really hope that all involved make a full recovery

You're not going there, surely, are you?

Yes. Hand on heart I can swear that when my DDs were only 10 I always, always knew where they were. Always.

And?

@peaceandove did they never walk to school alone? Or walk to the local shop? Friends call for them and they play out?

different areas I suppose but, in year 6 my son will be allowed to walk to school or go to the shops without me over his shoulder; there’s a point where we empathise with, not place blame on, parents.

Ok? I know where my DC are. Same ages as these boys. But I can't see them. They have friends of the same ages knocking on. I am assuming the area these boys lived is the same as where I live

Ah the old protective mantra of Perfect Parenting thriving on this thread, I see. Not really the time or the place, is it? Not that that ever stopped anyone on MN blaming parents for awful tragedies because children not cocooned in bubble wrap somehow deserve it.

A few years ago when my DC was in year 10 at school. One of his 'very sensible' friends was lying across the middle of a road not far from school and jumping up and running off when a car approached. That was on his normal walk to school, his parents knew exactly where he was, he was walking to school. His mum was horrified when I told her about his antics.

I don't believe any parent who claims to always know exactly what their child is up to.

There by the grace of god and all that.

Unforgettablefire · Today 15:35

There were also the two teenaged couples who were swept in off the seawall at Cullercoats. My neighbour was walking past and was asked to look out, lots of people were, on the path.

One girl was brought out breathing, but died; the others survived. I think it was five years ago, DD was just old enough to talk to about it. And then the next New Year, there was the young drunk who went in the sea near Watts Slope and washed up in Brown's Bay.

We were walking the dog past and the Police had just died. I hurried her away and explained later.

Emotionalsupportviper

The fishermen were near us.

Looks like we have a bit of a Geordie Mafia thing going here...

As you say, tragic, but entirely avoidable and for experienced, grown men, idiots.

I imagine he will. My grandad had a beautiful poster sized certificate from Royal Society for Accident Prevention I think, dated 1920s for rescuing his little brother from the river in town. I’ve thought a lot about him and these poor boys. My cousin took it when he died. Would love to know more information about it.

No, their school was a drive away.

No, they didn't walk to the local shop until they were older than 10.

No, they didn't 'play out' in our village until older than 10.

Not letting young, primary school age children play and roam near deep water, with no adult supervision, isn't wrapping them in bubble wrap.

A few years ago when my DC was in year 10 at school. I meant to say year 5, d'oh. Wish there was an edit button. The child was 10 years old who was lying in the road.

You're certain that the 11 year old was primary?

They went out to play. That is what children do. I don't think any of my DC's friends have knocked on and asked if they're allowed out to 'roam'.

Doesn't matter whether the 11 year old was still at primary or first year of secondary school. Being 11 is far too young to have the responsibility of supervising much younger children near deep water.

Ok and?

They went out to play. That is what children do.

Not when they're only 6. Not near deep water. Not if they were my child. Never.

I wonder if that's the girl I'm thinking of, Cullercoats it happened just a teenager. I don't know how I've not heard of the others I've lived here donkeys years.
Kids and teenagers thrill seeking yes but adult fisherman? That's really strange.

Thousands of children ‘roam’ in parks and fields and brownfield sites, nature reserves, lakes, ponds etc every single day. Sometimes they hurt themselves, sometimes they are a nuisance to others, most of the time they just get some fresh air and enjoy being with their friends.

To falsely handwring about where were their PARENTS????? when something dreadful like this happens is unpleasant. But like I said, if it’s a comforting mantra that makes people feel better about their own parenting choices, crack on.
Personally, I don’t think blaming the parents in this or similar situations is a) helpful b)pleasant

They do when they're with older kids.

They do when they're with older kids.

Not mine. Not a chance.

Unforgettablefire · Today 17:22

I wonder if that's the girl I'm thinking of, Cullercoats it happened just a teenager.

Could well be, they went on the North wall, by lifeboat station and were asked not to, by several people. The three survivors were rescued quite quickly, near where they went in. The poor girl who died was washed over to the other side and wasn't spotted quickly.

There is a 6 year old in the group of kids on our street.

These kids could have been told a million times not to go near the water. They might not have even realised they were on the water. It could have been snow covered. This could have happened with adults present. You have no idea. So just stop.

You're obviously perfect and nothing bad will ever happen to you and yours so just leave it now and carry on up there on your podium

Do you show your arsehole to everyone as well?