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Will be Universal Credit go up this much?

296 replies

indiepins · 19/11/2022 16:39

It's currently around £1920 a month. Am I right in thinking it'll be over £2100 now?

DLA is about £600, so will that go up to £660? And CA is £69 a week so will that low be about £305?

Thank you Smile

OP posts:
Sarah2891 · 19/11/2022 19:42

Christ, there are some super bitter people in this thread!

All the best to you, OP. Very tough situation to be in.

Beezknees · 19/11/2022 19:52

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:04

Yes. I think a lot of people working will resent being called "privileged arseholes" by those who don't.

I work full time and I think the people moaning about those getting disability benefits ARE privileged arseholes.

SleepingStandingUp · 19/11/2022 19:53

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

Because the pp has a partner who earns "enough" for their household. She cares, he works. Op is a single parent I presume from the useless Dad comment, so at most she's getting cms. She cares.

Are you advocating everyone with a disabled child should get an additional payment regardless of their household income or that anyone without a household income can just starve or leave their vulnerable child home alone? I'm up for the former. A decent rate of carers allowance would be good for a start eh?

Abd if OP is up at 3 am, and going to bed at 11 pm because of her caring duties, is on call constantly for school and hospital appts, when exactly do you propose she eats, sleeps and rests? Or are only those is paid work entitled to basis rights?

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IDontWantToBeAPie · 19/11/2022 19:57

Fizzadora · 19/11/2022 17:07

You'd have to earn £50k a year to get that.

What? No you don't. I get £1,900 after tax and am on £32,800k

KateMcCallister · 19/11/2022 19:58

Fucking hell is the whole POINT of benefits not to support people like the OP? Imagine living in a country where we didn't have state benefits and people with disabled children had to bring them up in poverty or worse give them up to the state as they genuinely couldn't afford to look after them?

SleepingStandingUp · 19/11/2022 19:59

Whatever the rights and wrongs, I do think that as more and more people become aware of these amounts, then trouble will brew. Many people earn a lot less working and they are not going to be happy. they're bot going to be happy that someone with a severely disabled child is allowed to live off the poverty line? That they'll be caring until their dying breath in some cases? Will be constantly in watch for what can go wrong next? Praying they get more time with them? Praying they'll get a decent night's sleep in the next decade? My heart bleeds for all those people WITHOUT a disabled child. Really. It does. 🙄

NippyWoowoo · 19/11/2022 20:22

'It is hard to pay hefty taxes, hefty mortgage and then realise that others are getting not much less-sometimes much more- for** not working caring for a disabled child'

Fixed it for you, stop being such a cunt

ItWillCauseAWar · 19/11/2022 20:47

I get a similar amount to OP plus my FT wage of 1700.

That’s when I can work - I’ve just had to take 2 months SSP. I couldn’t work until my disabled child found appropriate schooling. I’ve got MS and think I’m on the brink of another relapse so I’m not sure how much patience my employer has left. I WFH as it is because the office building is inaccessible for me.

Can I have the career and health I had in my 30s? Oh, and can someone toss in a partner who’s not a waste of space?

LaurieFairyCake · 19/11/2022 21:18

Lol Hmm love the idea that the OP isn't WORKING HmmHmmHmm

I think the phrase you're looking for is:

"economically inactive but saving the country £100k a year until the child dies or her descendants takes over the care of the person with disabilities"

Again, fuckers Angry

MetellaInHortoEst · 19/11/2022 23:22

I wonder if all the nasty posters realise how much a residential care placement for a severely disabled child would cost the state annually?

That’s what would be needed x 1000s if all the women slaving away for £67pw carers allowance downed tools.

BlackberriesArePurple · 19/11/2022 23:49

ForTheLoveOfSleep · 19/11/2022 17:32

How much you’ll get
Monthly standard allowance

If you’re single and under 25 £265.31

If you’re single and 25 or over £334.91

If you live with your partner and you’re both under 25 £416.45 (for you both)

If you live with your partner and either of you are 25 or over £525.72 (for you both).

For your first child £290.00 (born before 6 April 2017)
£244.58 (born on or after 6 April 2017)

For your second child and any other eligible children £244.58 per child

You’ll also get an extra amount if any of your children are disabled. You’re eligible for this extra amount no matter how many children you have.

You’ll get:

£132.89 if your child is disabled

£414.88 if your child is severely disabled

If you provide care for at least 35 hours a week for someone who gets a disability-related benefit £168.81

If you have a disability or health condition

If you have limited capability for work and work-related activity £354.28
If you have limited capability for work and you started your health-related Universal Credit or Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) claim before 3 April 2017 £132.89

www.gov.uk/universal-credit/what-youll-get

Jesus. Adding this up - and I am a huge supporter of benefits - I am amazed.

I am a lone parent. I am disabled and I have two disabled children. I work full time and pay an extortionate mortgage and childcare costs. I'm on my knees, basically, and get around 3-4 hours of sleep per day.

But if I've understood this correctly - between UC, DLA, PIP, child benefit etc - if I was to give up work and sell my house and spend all of the proceeds on having a fantastic time with my children for a couple of years, we could then rent somewhere and have our rent paid and then on top of that receive around £3k per month tax free. With all of the exhaustion being removed and me not working at all and being able to be around for them all the time. No mortgage, no childcare bills, no more stress. I have to say I am really surprised.

BlackberriesArePurple · 19/11/2022 23:55

Surprised as in, I have a very well paying job and we'd be hugely better off than we are now, with me pulling 18-19 hour days each day between work and home.

BadNomad · 20/11/2022 00:03

@BlackberriesArePurple Sure. Until your children reach adulthood, then you'll lose all the children-related parts and just get the basics. Plus no house, no savings, no second pension when you retire, and always the worry about your landlord making you homeless. Sounds like a great life.

Facecream · 20/11/2022 00:19

@danni0509
Yes! Just exactly that!

I haven’t been able to get my hair cut (our savings are classed as savings though they are going to our builder now).
I wish I could work. More than anything.
and I would do anything for my child, like you: I mean we did by giving up work etc!!

Pity those who think employment is such a chore that they refer to it as working their arse off and it’s not fair that some people literally cannot work.

I wonder would they swap standing over the grave of their child after years of endless caring for that few quid extra “for nothing”.

I have a deceased child too. Like another poster said if my disabled DD dies I will just end my own life. She is my life.

there isn’t going to be a nice house for us in the future or weddings or even parties - she does not understand what a birthday is or Christmas, does not like toys so she can’t even enjoy that side of those occasions..

She’ll never get a swimming badge or tell me about her best friend (or gave a best friend) or gave sleepovers or eat birthday cake.

What is wrong with people that they think this is a life I would choose for her, or me.

Relying on government decisions and their patronising shite about carer’s allowance not being a wage (well maybe in 1902 it would have been at its current rate) to be able to buy a pair of next jogging a (that’ll last me another two years).

Ah life is good

BlackberriesArePurple · 20/11/2022 01:07

BadNomad · 20/11/2022 00:03

@BlackberriesArePurple Sure. Until your children reach adulthood, then you'll lose all the children-related parts and just get the basics. Plus no house, no savings, no second pension when you retire, and always the worry about your landlord making you homeless. Sounds like a great life.

No it doesn't. But there's no guarantee my health will hold out until retirement with the current setup either, because as I said I have disabilities myself and trying to do everything with minimal support is making my health much worse. So yes it is galling when I never get any rest that I could have a far less stressful life and more money by stopping work and "only" having to deal with my/ DCs' disabilities.

JockTamsonsBairns · 20/11/2022 01:25

Overthebow · 19/11/2022 17:12

Student loans for my generation take a big chunk out of take home salaries. DH and I pay over £400 between us to or student loans. Beginning to think why did we bother?

Please stop this nonsense talk.
You and your DH have gone through University, studying subjects that you are (presumably) interested in, and feel passionate about.
And, having lived through the whole University "experience", you are both now wondering why you bothered?
Because life on Universal Credit now feels like such an attractive lifestyle to you both?
Not only that, living with a disability really appeals too?

Behave yourself, and check your privilege.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/11/2022 01:45

SilverGlitterBaubles · 19/11/2022 17:09

Is anyone able to verify if this is actually true?

This
Not read all the replies as there's too many pages and it's bedtime lol but a source would be good instead of a thread seemingly created to get people frothing?
I know a few people on UC and they struggle and have nowhere near that.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/11/2022 01:51

BadNomad · 20/11/2022 00:03

@BlackberriesArePurple Sure. Until your children reach adulthood, then you'll lose all the children-related parts and just get the basics. Plus no house, no savings, no second pension when you retire, and always the worry about your landlord making you homeless. Sounds like a great life.

This, I'd much rather have my own place and scrape by rather than dependent on benefits which some people seem to think is preferable/ something they want rather than working 😕

SleepingStandingUp · 20/11/2022 01:54

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/11/2022 01:45

This
Not read all the replies as there's too many pages and it's bedtime lol but a source would be good instead of a thread seemingly created to get people frothing?
I know a few people on UC and they struggle and have nowhere near that.

Op has a highly disabled child so on top of DLA and carers she also gets full amount plus disability entitlement

SleepingStandingUp · 20/11/2022 01:58

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/11/2022 01:51

This, I'd much rather have my own place and scrape by rather than dependent on benefits which some people seem to think is preferable/ something they want rather than working 😕

I'd prefer that too, but at this point in time I need to be a carer for my son. It won't be forever, unlike families like OPs who will need to care for her child for the rest of their life. It isn't easy to work a job around that kind of commitment to care needs. You can't just pop them into after school care when you need someone highly trained to feed and care for your child. You can't just get family to take them when they need to be comfortable with all the equipment and feeds and potentially strong enough to lift a heavy child. You can refuse to care for your child and give them up, buti don't think I want to live in a society where that's what's expected and people on this thread sure as hell don't want to pay for the care our kids would need if we did just decide we'd rather have a nice job and our own house instead

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/11/2022 02:11

SleepingStandingUp · 20/11/2022 01:54

Op has a highly disabled child so on top of DLA and carers she also gets full amount plus disability entitlement

Oh OK didn't realise that, yes that's circumstances then surely for all those complaining...
You can't just "go out and get a job" or whatever if that's the case
Do people not think that you'"d much rather have a healthy child for want of a better expression and to have the option of going out to work available for you?!
Hardly a case of not fair, I want that much money!!! 🙄😡
Sometimes there's more to it than that, money isn't the be all and end all however important it is, health is too
Probably worded that wrong but hope you get what I mean

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/11/2022 02:14

Beezknees · 19/11/2022 19:52

I work full time and I think the people moaning about those getting disability benefits ARE privileged arseholes.

Same

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 20/11/2022 02:31

fucking hell, that’s more than I earn working full time! And I’m certainly not getting a 10% pay rise 😵. This is really shocking.

sashh · 20/11/2022 02:46

Snowdropsarelovely · 19/11/2022 17:06

I'll be honest this is just how I feel! Why am I working so hard in a demanding full time job for not much more than this ?!

Boo Hoo to both of you.

Taking care of a disabled child IS A FULL TIME JOB. Actually it is a full time job with compulsory overtime and no retirement age. But as there is also no pension other than the state pension that's not a problem.

I'm sure the OP didn't deliberately go about having a disabled child so that she could claim UC.

Would you really swap your job for caring for a disabled child?

Endofmyteatherr · 20/11/2022 04:51

This thread is ridiculous and I thought OP was having a wind up when she first posted it. Are you new OP? I knew straight from those figures you would have a disabled child....now instead of your question being answered about the money increased the thread has turned into people basically saying they would like to get the same money as you but continue to live their ordinary lives.

Appalling there's no way I would envy OP for a second just because she gets what she's entitled to! Even if it goes abouve my wage.

It's an insult to OP!

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