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Will be Universal Credit go up this much?

296 replies

indiepins · 19/11/2022 16:39

It's currently around £1920 a month. Am I right in thinking it'll be over £2100 now?

DLA is about £600, so will that go up to £660? And CA is £69 a week so will that low be about £305?

Thank you Smile

OP posts:
gogohmm · 19/11/2022 18:41

Uc is made up of different elements, whilst the person amount will go up, the rent element will depend on your rent

mashh · 19/11/2022 18:41

Sorry but I wouldn't feel jealous of benefit claimants getting this much per month, especially if people in the family are disabled. They're not rolling in money.

Chances are you getting the same amount through employment means your standard of life is higher? I'm sure there's statistics that children that grow up on benefits/in poverty don't have the same life prospects than those who grow up in working households of £50k

Thatsnotmycar · 19/11/2022 18:52

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

If that other poster didn’t have savings and had the same circumstances as the OP they would have to earn over £3500 after tax, NI, pension per month before they no longer qualified for UC.

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notameangirlhun · 19/11/2022 18:56

Some of the comments on this post make me so sad.

I am a single parent to a disabled child and whilst I am able to work, it is very PT as her needs (disability, appointments, EHCP reciews etc…) take up a lot of my time.

I would love to be full-time but my caring commitments to my child come first.

I have to claim UC and DLA to afford for us to live and DLA especially requires a lot of evidence and forms to get so I struggle to see how anyone could begrudge OP being awarded a high rate DLA. If it’s been awarded, it is obviously deserved.

Why are people begrudging disabled people a decent quality of life?

sunshineandrain82 · 19/11/2022 18:57

Your assuming one size fits all.

I have 4 children who require extra care. We only claim for the younger 2 who have the most complex needs.

One has been out of school for a year because the LA are unable to find a school currently that can meet his needs. My other one goes 2 mornings a week currently due to the struggle to meet needs.

So while my partner works 12-16 hour shifts, we do get a top up.
Childcare isn't a option for us when we are unable to access a school provision including specialist currently due to then difficulties of meeting our sons needs.

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:00

Whatever the rights and wrongs, I do think that as more and more people become aware of these amounts, then trouble will brew. Many people earn a lot less working and they are not going to be happy.

I think it is already brewing, with even posters on Mumsnet complaining about the very large amounts been given out-a thing that never used to happen.

It is hard to pay hefty taxes, hefty mortgage and then realise that others are getting not much less-sometimes much more- for not working.

Things cannot be right when a care home gets dozens of applications for a job but only two or three, at most, turn up for interview. That is because the Job Centre insists claimants apply in order to get the benefits but don't actually have to turn up for the interview and they don't because the difference between pay and benefit isn't much different.

Some would rather sit at home for about the same money than work for it and that is coming to public notice more than before.

Not so many of them have disabled children I don't think.

ImprobablePuffin · 19/11/2022 19:01

I can't believe how many total cunts there are coming for the OP here.

I'm sure they would come for me with pitchforks if they knew I got really lucky with TWO disabled children who both get high rate DLA, which is about £1100 a month then we get UC accordingly, about £1450 a month and then carers on top of that. My DH also brings in a full time wage. Obviously as PP mentioned I'm sitting on my arse at home laughing at how amazing my life is while all this is going on and not spending 24/7 actually dealing with the kids.

I wonder if all the people whinging and whining about not getting as much money as OP would be happy to only have disabled children in order to get their paws on all the lovely money we bathe in every day.

Get a fucking grip you bunch of privileged arseholes. You have absolutely no clue what our lives are like and you are so very fortunate not to know and to be able to go to your full time job and whinge at how unfair the world is on Mumsnet coz the scroungers are taking all the money.

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:04

Yes. I think a lot of people working will resent being called "privileged arseholes" by those who don't.

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:05

"Privileged arseholes" and "cunts"

roarfeckingroarr · 19/11/2022 19:06

I don't resent any of the disability related payments at all. It's good that they're increasing at the rate of inflation. Life must be bloody tough.

I do think non disability related benefits should go up at the rate of average wage increase.

indiepins · 19/11/2022 19:06

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:00

Whatever the rights and wrongs, I do think that as more and more people become aware of these amounts, then trouble will brew. Many people earn a lot less working and they are not going to be happy.

I think it is already brewing, with even posters on Mumsnet complaining about the very large amounts been given out-a thing that never used to happen.

It is hard to pay hefty taxes, hefty mortgage and then realise that others are getting not much less-sometimes much more- for not working.

Things cannot be right when a care home gets dozens of applications for a job but only two or three, at most, turn up for interview. That is because the Job Centre insists claimants apply in order to get the benefits but don't actually have to turn up for the interview and they don't because the difference between pay and benefit isn't much different.

Some would rather sit at home for about the same money than work for it and that is coming to public notice more than before.

Not so many of them have disabled children I don't think.

Your post doesn't really make much sense on my thread though - your entire post is about people not working because they can't be bothered turning up for interview and will get more on benefits.

I can't work (well I do but it's a tiny amount and most like me can't logistically), because I am a carer. Caring is my job! It's my work. I save the government millions in the end by staying here and taking care of disabled DC

OP posts:
Thatsnotmycar · 19/11/2022 19:07

Many people earn a lot less working and they are not going to be happy.

If those people who are earning less have the same circumstances they too will be able to claim UC.

CookieDoughKid · 19/11/2022 19:08

Regardless of the ethics. There is a very VERY high probability that state funding for UC, NHS including State pension etc..
.all kinds of benefits in the future... WILL reduce. It's not a matter of if but WHEN. And when that happens, if not for our generation then for our children, it is most certainly not a good position to be in if you are not self reliant.

indiepins · 19/11/2022 19:08

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:04

Yes. I think a lot of people working will resent being called "privileged arseholes" by those who don't.

I never called anyone any such names but for what it's worth, I am bloody working, usually a 20 hour shift. Sometimes less but often more.

No 9-5 or 7-7 here. Oh and my pay works out at about £1 an hour for carers allowance!

OP posts:
ImprobablePuffin · 19/11/2022 19:09

MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings · 19/11/2022 19:04

Yes. I think a lot of people working will resent being called "privileged arseholes" by those who don't.

I really don't care. Because it is a privilege to be able to work. I wish I could. And then all we get is scorn and are made to feel like shit. So yes, if people act like cunts and arseholes I'll call them on it. HTH

CookieDoughKid · 19/11/2022 19:09

@indiepins I do sympathise. Being a carer is a very very hard. I don't know how you do it tbh.

indiepins · 19/11/2022 19:10

@ImprobablePuffin hope you're okay. I know how hard you work Flowers

OP posts:
Thatsnotmycar · 19/11/2022 19:10

sunshineandrain82 · 19/11/2022 18:57

Your assuming one size fits all.

I have 4 children who require extra care. We only claim for the younger 2 who have the most complex needs.

One has been out of school for a year because the LA are unable to find a school currently that can meet his needs. My other one goes 2 mornings a week currently due to the struggle to meet needs.

So while my partner works 12-16 hour shifts, we do get a top up.
Childcare isn't a option for us when we are unable to access a school provision including specialist currently due to then difficulties of meeting our sons needs.

Completely separate to the benefits discussion but if your DC can’t attend school full time the LA must provide alternative provision to provide a suitable, full time education and anything in DC’s EHCPs. You cannot be compelled to organise or facilitate their education. For the one without a suitable school have you considered an EOTAS package?

ImprobablePuffin · 19/11/2022 19:12

indiepins · 19/11/2022 19:10

@ImprobablePuffin hope you're okay. I know how hard you work Flowers

Honestly it just makes me so mad that others who don't have a clue what life is like for us think it's ok to pour scorn on us and THEN come back for saying working people won't like being called arseholes.

Wombatbum · 19/11/2022 19:15

Many people who have severely disabled children may not be able to work! I work in a SEND school, some of our children’s attendance is sporadic due to them getting poorly easily and frequently.

Asher33 · 19/11/2022 19:15

roarfeckingroarr · 19/11/2022 19:06

I don't resent any of the disability related payments at all. It's good that they're increasing at the rate of inflation. Life must be bloody tough.

I do think non disability related benefits should go up at the rate of average wage increase.

All benefits (no idea about housing benefit) are going up 10.1%

ImHavingACrisis · 19/11/2022 19:17

It is hard to pay hefty taxes, hefty mortgage and then realise that others are getting not much less-sometimes much more- for not working.

@MassiveSaladWithChristmasTrimmings you’re purposely being obtuse. Anyone with the circumstances would be able to get the same amount of money in benefits. Someone who has a mortgage and works a full time role is in a completely different situation to a single parent who private rents with one or two kids. They may earn a similar amount monthly but which one is better off. Surely the one who has a property and is able to contribute towards their pension?

As someone correctly pointed out, a single person cannot get more than £400 a month excluding the amount for their rent. Does that really sound like a great life to live?

DrHildegardeLanstrom · 19/11/2022 19:25

The responses on here are awful. We get a high UC award as we have high London rent, a disabled dc and my partner cannot work so gets Lcwra. I work full time and sometimes do extra work when I can also.
That people would begrudge the benefits safety net actually helping people.... well.

Battlecat98 · 19/11/2022 19:34

Sadly this is a very emotive topic as the replies have proven. We should be angry with the government. Op clearly does all she can, I have got a different perspective on this now thanks to the op. I am 'the squeezed middle' and it is tough and worrying but, not as tough as the op has it. I would not want to swap places 💐
Ignore the horrible comments OP but, I would say alot of us don't understand as I didn't until I read the op.

KatnissNeverdone · 19/11/2022 19:35

I'm also a carer to a severely disabled child. I work in an extremely flexible job but only for 10 hours a week (I'm a cleaner in a private sports club and can nip in to do an hour here and there where I can around DH's shifts). It's impossible for me to work any more than that. DS might be in school during this day but with a current attendance at around 60% due to his ill health I cannot be a reliable employee. We were awarded direct payments to hire a carer. These have been removed because we can't find carers for love nor money despite 12 months of relentless advertising.

As for those of you who say you "work hard", you have absolutely no idea what it's like to care for another person 24/7 365 days a year. Try turning a a hefty 17 year old every two hours throughout the night! This is after hoisting, dressing, washing etc etc during the day. Between DSs personal care and my job, I am physically fucked at just over 40 years of age and if DS's life expectancy is what they expect, I've got another 20 years of the same to go. It is extremely unlikely that he will ever live independently. He has extremely limited mobility (none whatsoever in his lower limbs) and learning difficulties.

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