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Will be Universal Credit go up this much?

296 replies

indiepins · 19/11/2022 16:39

It's currently around £1920 a month. Am I right in thinking it'll be over £2100 now?

DLA is about £600, so will that go up to £660? And CA is £69 a week so will that low be about £305?

Thank you Smile

OP posts:
teslaplayer · 19/11/2022 18:15

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

I hate fucking comments like this. Regardless of what your sister is going through, she is deemed fit to work and the OP has caring responsibilities which I can assure you is a whole lot harder than whatever your sister does for 12 quid an hour.

safetyfreak · 19/11/2022 18:16

People on UC will be getting a big rise in their benefits.

Remember though, when their children are grown they will not be getting those payments anymore and will have to work in likely low paid jobs. It is still better to work, though I can understand some people are upset.

The working people are being hit harder in this budget

Threadkillacilla · 19/11/2022 18:16

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

So instead of thinking it's not enough and unfair you think it should be less for others? Genius.

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MetellaInHortoEst · 19/11/2022 18:17

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

Wrong thread for this.

MrNook · 19/11/2022 18:18

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

Totally irrelevant to OPs question though isn't it? Are you trying to make her feel shit for claiming benefits for her disabled child?

PollyEsther · 19/11/2022 18:18

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

So, your sister only earns £12ph. Maybe she should have worked harder to get better qualifications and a better job, to be able to earn more?

OR maybe, just maybe, disabled children deserve to have a healthy family income just as much as your sister does?

And maybe we should be angry at employers who don't pay a living wage and a government that supports them to do so. Rather than disabled children and their families.

FFS.

Threadkillacilla · 19/11/2022 18:18

Endwalker · 19/11/2022 18:15

I imagine their solution would probably be of the final variety.

Aye, all the way, until it's themselves.

Guiltycat · 19/11/2022 18:20

I work with and know plenty who have considerable disabilities and still have the work ethic within them.

I work f/t and have a disabled child.
There is definitely a culture of accepting that you can’t work if your disabled.

Fuck. Me.

No idea anyone could be this stupid or callous.

I used to care for people with disabilities. Not a fucking chance they could work. None.

This may come as a shock…but people with disabilities have varying degrees of disability. For every person you saw who (fantastically) was able to function and work, there will be someone who could NEVER do that.

Personally I believe too many people disabled or not have no work ethic at all.

Yeah sure. The young lady I worked with who couldn’t walk, talk or swallow food with it being the right consistency, unable to feed herself and trembled with fear during showers because of past abuse…was just being lazy. How dare she live a life where she didn’t have to starve, freeze and even had the gall to go in a short holiday once every two years!

And don’t bother coming back now with some shit about ‘Well not ALL disabled people obviously’. I see you, and we can all see what you’ve written.

Sickening.

Hooverphobe · 19/11/2022 18:21

@Chocdropsandbuckfast iME people who don’t get awarded PIP are the people who don’t fill in the forms DWP “want” you to. Why don’t you help her try again?

as your sister took out her mortgage 22-23 years ago she is now just 2-3 years away from owning that asset outright. So what’s the problem there?

FluffyFluffMonster · 19/11/2022 18:22

For some reason which I can never understand people hate those who have to claim benefits. They justify it by saying some people take the piss but all those who take the piss are a very small minority

Sereyah · 19/11/2022 18:22

My pay on universal credit is around that but I have a child who is high rate dla so that makes up a huge amount in my uc. Which would only be around 1200. This includes the housing element though and I pay high rent. I can appreciate many saying they work full time and don’t get that. That money is used towards a child who has a severe disability so it comes with a lot of extra costs and I’ll be honest the amount I receive doesn’t even cover most of my monthly outgoings for his needs and I’ve sadly had to turn to finance to accommodate this month to month.

ImprobablePuffin · 19/11/2022 18:23

SilverGlitterBaubles · 19/11/2022 17:09

Is anyone able to verify if this is actually true?

Families with disabled children or adults and parents who have to be carers forcing them to leave paid employment generally do get a bit more UC, yes. And rightly so.

girlmom21 · 19/11/2022 18:24

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:14

I’m not having a go at children with disabilities, it’s the folk that deliberately play the system

Which isn't the OP so complain elsewhere.

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 18:30

Hooverphobe · 19/11/2022 18:21

@Chocdropsandbuckfast iME people who don’t get awarded PIP are the people who don’t fill in the forms DWP “want” you to. Why don’t you help her try again?

as your sister took out her mortgage 22-23 years ago she is now just 2-3 years away from owning that asset outright. So what’s the problem there?

In my experience it is very hard to get PIP for crohns disease/ colitis. I have one client who has it severely and has bene turned down for PIP time and time again, even with the most experienced professionals helping him with the PIP form, MR and appeal.

NippyWoowoo · 19/11/2022 18:30

Facecream · 19/11/2022 18:01

I have a severely disabled DD. She cannot talk or walk or eat. She is still very active (uses a wheelchair) but cannot do anything for herself.
She is doubly incontinent so will use pads for life.
She cannot raise her arms.
Cannot express when she is in pain.
Barely sleeps.
Will most likely never be able to speak to me.
I don’t get UC because my DH works and we have “savings” - now being spent on adjustments to our home to accommodate her.
I will most likely never work again, if she outlived me.
If she doesn’t, I’m still approaching 50 and have been out of the job market now for five and a half years.
I gave up everything for her. I have no money.
Yes she gets higher rate DLA, I spend the higher rate mobility element on a WAV so I can transport her.
So “my money” is carer’s allowance only - £270 a month. On petrol and phone bills I get close to spending that every month.
My husband’s earnings go on food, bills etc.
Not everyone who has a severely disabled child is lording it up on UC..
And those who do qualify for UC and the various premiums for having a severely disabled child aren’t lording it up either.
We have no holidays or holiday pay.
No sick days (usually my DD is sick and I catch whatever she has).
I have never had a night away from her.
when she gets a chest infection I spend 24 hours in hospital caring for her.
I don’t even get a sandwich from the NHS and have to find and ask a nurse to stay with her to go up the shop to buy their shite.
She sleeps about 6 hours a night.
I have not had any kind of holiday, or date night, or shopping alone even, inn5 and a half years.
Swap you for a badly paid, secure, respected NHS job any fucking day

Those fools won't be coming back, they had their troll and now they're gone

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

Hooverphobe · 19/11/2022 18:32

@Babyroobs that’s shocking. It’s such a debilitating condition. 😔

NippyWoowoo · 19/11/2022 18:33

Chocdropsandbuckfast · 19/11/2022 18:13

My sister earns around 12pp hour as a nursery nurse. The system says she isn’t entitled to any help. She’s on her own with no kids. Has to pay her mortgage on her own which she took out in 2000 when it was affordable. Travel 17 miles per day to her job, petrol is a fortune. My dad bought her an old car to get about. She’s 50, so she’s obviously embarrassed that she had to rely on my dad for money for a car. Struggles every month. She asks why do I bother? She struggles daily with crohns and colitis, but got turned down for pip. Yes we are bitter! So we should be. I’m so angry with the system. No one should be getting more for not working than someone working full time.

The OP works full time caring for a disabled child, HTH.

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 18:33

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

Because Universal credit is a means tested benefit so if you have other income or savings over the threshold you won't qualify. maybe op is a lone parent so that is why she qualifies.

mashh · 19/11/2022 18:35

cocktailclub · 19/11/2022 17:03

I am sorry I just can't believe universal credit is so much. I work full time in a senior role (although not in a well paid industry) and I don't earn much more than that after tax.

The majority of people on UC don't get that much, OP probably has disability or caring related elements, maybe higher bedroom rates for housing element too

indiepins · 19/11/2022 18:35

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

When do I sleep then? Can you answer that? My son is at school 9-3 which is when I'm sleeping a lot of the time. He is up for 3am and doesn't sleep before a certain time at night

Oh and I do work thanks, as I've stated. But I wasn't before and that was fine too. I'm lucky I can pick up bank shifts a few times a month when his useless father decides he can 'cope' for the night so I can do a night shift here and there

OP posts:
Asher33 · 19/11/2022 18:37

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

And sleep when? And what if her child is in and out of hospital?

Enouf · 19/11/2022 18:37

Your future- Family Christmases, promotions, holidays, paying off the mortgage, conversations with adult children, weddings for adult children, retirement, rest, pension, beautiful memories

My future- Loss of self, physical ruin due to caring demands, society continuing to hate you, caring until child's/adult child's death, unquantifiable grief, a plan to end my life if I can't survive the grief

Keep goading though, if it makes you feel better. I've had friends begrudge me a wheelchair adapted van. Imagine being that awful. I may be nothing in your eyes but my God, I have compassion.

FarmerRefuted · 19/11/2022 18:38

Sniffypete · 19/11/2022 18:31

But why can the OP get so much when another poster with a disabled child gets nothing above carers allowance as her partner works? It's disgusting that the ones that are actually working are penalised for it!
Surely, the op could work whilst the children are at school? But with the benefits being so high, there's no incentive to do so!

Jobs that are 9am to 3pm, or more like 9.30 to 2.30 to accommodate school run, and term time only are like hens teeth. They also need to be very understanding when you need to phone in for time off because your disabled child is ill or because they've needed additional care that day and it's made you late or because they have an appointment. They also need to be understanding of the phone calls to go collect then from school early because they're not coping or because they're ill or they have a care need school isn't able to meet. That employer also needs to understand that you will need time off for review meetings with school, EHCP reviews, target setting meetings, assessments. They should know too that if school transport is late then you will be too. They will also need to allow time off for weekly therapies such as physio or OT.

Can you see loads of employers lining up to offer that level of flexibility? That's not even mentioning the time off OP would need for her own medical appointments and rest periods because caring takes its toll on your health. Carers are statistically more likely to be unwell themselves and there is a high rate of burn out.

Babyroobs · 19/11/2022 18:38

Enouf · 19/11/2022 18:37

Your future- Family Christmases, promotions, holidays, paying off the mortgage, conversations with adult children, weddings for adult children, retirement, rest, pension, beautiful memories

My future- Loss of self, physical ruin due to caring demands, society continuing to hate you, caring until child's/adult child's death, unquantifiable grief, a plan to end my life if I can't survive the grief

Keep goading though, if it makes you feel better. I've had friends begrudge me a wheelchair adapted van. Imagine being that awful. I may be nothing in your eyes but my God, I have compassion.

I honestly cannot believe some of the posts on this thread.

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