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If you had a chance to vote again for Brexit would it be leave or remain?

314 replies

Stormyscratchywindows · 17/11/2022 14:36

Just saw a poll which said Public support for Brexit is at an all-time low, with one in five Brexiteers now saying they think it was wrong to vote to leave the EU. If you had a chance to vote again how would you vote - trying to make it a goady thread so feel free not to mention if you were remain or leave last time.

news.sky.com/story/poll-reveals-public-support-for-brexit-at-all-time-low-12749439

For me - I'd vote remain

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AllyCatTown · 17/11/2022 18:30

FlorettaB · 17/11/2022 14:47

I think those voting remain did so on the basis of facts. Those voting leave voted on feeling. The facts now show that Brexit is going to be up to twice as damaging to the British economy as COVID. So remain voters have more reason to support remain and leave voters will continue to follow feelings over facts.

There was a lot of misinformation and it can be hard for people to know what to believe. Sure in an ideal world people would read up on educated sources and know which people to trust. If you wanted more money to go to the nhs as the famous bus had on its side then that’s not a vote on feelings. That’s voting because you thought (wrongly) that there would be more funding. Even though I voted remain I also learnt a lot more after the vote.

Clavinova · 17/11/2022 18:30

FlorettaB
I think those voting remain did so on the basis of facts. Those voting leave voted on feeling. The facts now show that Brexit is going to be up to twice as damaging to the British economy as COVID. So remain voters have more reason to support remain and leave voters will continue to follow feelings over facts.

When did an assumption pass as a fact?

Richard Hughes said the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) had assumed leaving the EU would “reduce our long run GDP by around 4%”, adding in comments to the BBC: “We think that the effect of the pandemic will reduce that (GDP) output by a further 2%.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/28/brexit-worse-for-the-uk-economy-than-covid-pandemic-obr-says

AnApparitionQuipped · 17/11/2022 18:33

I voted remain originally, and I would vote remain again.

UrsulaPandress · 17/11/2022 18:34

I remember saying on a Brexit thread before the vote that we could have no idea what the future held after the vote.

Covid and Ukraine have fucked up everything, but I’d still vote leave.

Fortuna rules.

canyouextrapol · 17/11/2022 18:38

Yet to see a benefit of brexit. I wish some of the leave voters would explain what they are, especially those that would vote leave again

Tontostitis · 17/11/2022 18:40

Same again

Clavinova · 17/11/2022 18:44

100% as predicted by "project fear" - we cant generate enough of our own electricity, and we can't import from Europe now either.
Teach your children candle-safety.

I am in the process of getting Dutch nationality

I married a Dutchman which is proving very useful

Interestingly, we signed a new pact with the Netherlands yesterday;

LONDON — The U.K. and the Netherlands will work together to prevent winter blackouts as Europe braces for the end of Russian gas supplies.

As part of a bilateral deal signed Wednesday, the two countries agreed to cooperate on energy security and ramp up joint work to break their dependence on Russian gas and oil exports.

“Noting our interconnected energy markets and making best use of our shared infrastructure, we will continue regular contact to review winter preparedness and collaborate on security of supply,” the agreement states.

www.politico.eu/article/united-kingdom-and-the-netherland-commit-to-helping-each-other-keep-power-on-russia-war/

Inflation in the Netherlands is 14.3% -

www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2022/45/inflation-rate-at-14-3-percent-in-october

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/11/2022 18:46

I'd vote Remain again.

I hate how Brexit weakened the UK. I hate its impact on our politics. I hate the division and mistrust in "experts" that it created. And I hate that it has made the country less stable and investable.

Hooverphobe · 17/11/2022 18:46

Leave again. LOVE buses with slogans.

Tiggy321 · 17/11/2022 18:47

Remain again obviously. Am lucky enough to have dual nationality (EU) but the queues at Eurostar passport control the last few times I have used it recently have been mental- purely down to Brexit. There is literally not ONE good thing to come out of it and yes I am still bitter (don't even live in UK but every Brit I know in Europe thinks it's a terrible idea)

TiredButAlive · 17/11/2022 18:50

Obviously I'd vote Remain again because I have a brain.

PiggyInTheLidl · 17/11/2022 18:51

But we can negotiate our own trade deals now! Shame that even our closest allies will only give us crap terms now we have zero bargaining power.

As was wholly predictable.

Croque · 17/11/2022 18:53

Well, they were doing pretty lousy job of negotiating those trade deals until the major distractions of a pandemic and a war came along to provide them with a convenient excuse.

Clavinova · 17/11/2022 18:55

2greenroses
The main reason I voted remain was because I am a scientist. We are sunk without collaboration with Europe on energy and science

We signed a new science agreement with Switzerland last week;

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-signs-major-science-co-operation-agreement-with-switzerland

And with Sweden in May;

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-commits-to-life-sciences-cooperation-with-sweden

FlorettaB · 17/11/2022 18:55

’If you wanted more money to go to the nhs as the famous bus had on its side then that’s not a vote on feelings’

It’s true that some people believed the lies. Even then though, there were two sides. One was saying, ‘We’ll have all this extra money to spend on the NHS’ and the other was saying, ‘No, we wont.’ People chose to believe the side they were already inclined to support. The people who voted remain weren’t against extra money for the NHS - they didn’t believe the source of the promises.

BirmaBrite · 17/11/2022 18:58

I would vote remain again.

I couldn't see the benefits of Brexit and still can't.

I didn't trust this Government to manage Brexit in a sensible manner and they didn't and have buggered the economy to boot

Croque · 17/11/2022 18:58

The marketing mismanagement was absolutely real and some were straight up lies, of course. But it has definitely all become eclipsed by the major cataclysms. People are too immobilized by the upheaval generated by those to take up arms against a musical chairs govt on this specific issue.

Croque · 17/11/2022 18:59

It's also true to say that leaving a bloc has been done reasonably well in the past. But this government were never going to achieve what they promised.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/11/2022 19:01

I voted Remain, I would vote Remain again

WhenAllTheCowsAreSleeping · 17/11/2022 19:02

Remain again

Lunificent · 17/11/2022 19:06

Pork markets

endofthelinefinally · 17/11/2022 19:09

Remain again. Brexit has been a disaster. Shameful.

Bellablahhole · 17/11/2022 19:15

I'd vote leave.

3peassuit · 17/11/2022 19:16

Remain again.

Clavinova · 17/11/2022 19:24

youkiddingme

Interestingly, Swati Dhingra (your link) was already known as a "strong critic of Brexit" even before she joined the Bank of England's rate setting committee in May;
www.cityam.com/bank-of-england-adds-brexit-critic-to-rate-setting-committee/

At the end of June, she said that "the impacts of Covid and the impacts of Brexit [were] still difficult to differentiate."

www.cityam.com/impacts-of-covid-and-brexit-hard-to-uncouple-mpc-appointee-dr-swati-dhingra/

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