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Boy George. What an absolute tool

548 replies

SpeckledlyHen · 07/11/2022 22:15

That’s it really. Total and utter twat.

OP posts:
NearlChristmas · 08/11/2022 17:29

Sleazy.

Tied up (to a radiator) and beat a prostitute - very short sentence and no apparent remorse - it was the drugs that made me do it

WahineToa · 08/11/2022 17:41

Once someone’s said your views make them sick, I think it’s impolite to @ them.

BettyUnderswoob · 08/11/2022 17:52

@ZaSar

"If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls"

Also

"My preference for young girls... I've never hidden it, I've always been surrounded by young girls"

Two quotes from the lovely Mr Polanski, five times accused of sex crimes, to whom you wish us to be kind.
I really can't fathom what's wrong with you.

Blossomtoes · 08/11/2022 17:58

WahineToa · 08/11/2022 13:35

He has apologised though

No, Boy George has never apologised to his victim, as he has said himself. He says ‘it wouldn’t mean anything’. That’s the excuse. He absolutely did beat the guy, there were recorded injuries. You can’t debate that part because he was convicted of it based on the evidence @MultiTulip

That isn’t what the judge said:

At the time of his conviction, Judge David Radford said: "Whilst I accept that Mr Carlsen's physical injuries were not serious or permanent, in my view there can be no doubt that your premeditated callous and humiliating handcuffing and detention of Mr Carlsen shocked, degraded and traumatised him.

category12 · 08/11/2022 18:13

Whilst I accept that Mr Carlsen's physical injuries were not serious or permanent

is not the same as saying he didn't have any injuries. He did have injuries, they just weren't grave or forever.

WahineToa · 08/11/2022 18:16

is not the same as saying he didn't have any injuries. He did have injuries, they just weren't grave or forever

Exactly. More serious injuries and he would have served longer than 4 months.

WahineToa · 08/11/2022 18:29

The court was shown photographs of deep red welts on Carlsen's head and injuries to his arm, all of which he said had been inflicted by O'Dowd.

O'Dowd told police: "I asked him to come [back to my flat] because I wanted to find out if this guy had borrowed my stuff.….He said Carlsen "struggled a bit" when he was handcuffing him "because he realised I wasn't messing around".

ThistleSifter · 08/11/2022 18:33

That poster seems to confusing/interpreting “separating the art from the artist”, to basically meaning if you’re an artist she’ll argue you shouldn’t be punished because “art”

When in actual fact the term is more the ability to objectively enjoy the film/music/art, while being able to simultaneously be revolted by their admitted crimes and think that they should be punished and/or not given future £££ opportunities on national tv.

Although anyone who compares BG to Picasso or Da Vinci is grasping at best.

And it’s not cancel culture in the sense of thought-policing or inhibiting normal discussion or opposing views, it’s more a question of if we should - for instance - have a massive tribute weekend for Jimmy Savile, or bring Gary Glitter as a guest host on This Morning or similar? The correct analogy is more along those characters lines than eg JKR.

BG chained up a rent boy in a premeditated set-up and threatened him with sex toys and chains and beat him, yet doesn’t even give enough of a fuck about his victim to even bother apologising. Even when he’s come down off the drugs, he still hasn’t shown remorse. It upset me as I have gay friends - a couple of whom have worked as rent boys - & how the whole thing was brushed under the carpet and he was immediately posited as a national treasure has always revolted me.

Should “be kind” (a vapid phrase in any respect) not primarily apply to the victim? Or in fact directed at the criminal perpetrator as that poster is saying? 🧐

Sheitgeist · 08/11/2022 19:00

That poster seems to confusing/interpreting “separating the art from the artist”, to basically meaning if you’re an artist she’ll argue you shouldn’t be punished because “art”

It would appear so. You can overlook an artiste's crimes or unsavoury opinions and still enjoy, perhaps grudgingly, their work.
To say that they should be let off or their crimes minimised though, is a completely different argument.

limitedperiodonly · 08/11/2022 19:01

In 2022 if tried in England and Wales and found guilty Roman Polanski should have been convicted of the rape of someone of 13 and sentenced to a minimum of 10 years jail

I think that is right Meanwhile every year ordinary men rape ordinary women all the time and women say it is okay just because and "not my Nigel.".

Sheitgeist · 08/11/2022 19:04

limitedperiodonly · 08/11/2022 19:01

In 2022 if tried in England and Wales and found guilty Roman Polanski should have been convicted of the rape of someone of 13 and sentenced to a minimum of 10 years jail

I think that is right Meanwhile every year ordinary men rape ordinary women all the time and women say it is okay just because and "not my Nigel.".

I've never met a woman in the UK who thinks rape is OK Confused

Sheitgeist · 08/11/2022 19:16

Sorry for derail, OP.

Not watching IACGMOOH this time, too many annoying people in it (though I am a bit curious as to how Twatt Hancock will behave) but every time I've seen Boy George in anything else I've always thought he was a bit of a tool.

Idiotintraining · 08/11/2022 19:19

Boy George is hillarious.

ReggieWayne · 08/11/2022 19:23

Idiotintraining · 08/11/2022 19:19

Boy George is hillarious.

I agree, kidnapping and torturing people is a right giggle.

ThistleSifter · 08/11/2022 19:27

Also of note is that the victim escaped before the full events planned for him played out.

It wasn’t BG realising “wtf am I doing” or letting him go. The victim fought for - what must have felt like - his life and luckily escaped.

There was clearly a worse outcome for the victim in mind, as the victim didn’t leave because he was released and managed to escape early into the attack; the whole thing was pre-meditated.

The victim left after ripping the radiator pipe from the wall surely in total terror after that box of whips, sex toys and chains was bought in to torture him with - probably the adrenaline about what plans were about to be played out after already getting a taste of what was in store if he didn’t somehow free himself.

How anyone can excuse this is beyond me.

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/11/2022 19:33

Sparklingbrook · 08/11/2022 09:31

Maybe you should start a petition or complain to OFCOM?

I'll sign it.

Idiotintraining · 08/11/2022 19:34

ReggieWayne · 08/11/2022 19:23

I agree, kidnapping and torturing people is a right giggle.

Firstly I didn't say that was funny as it isn't and I didn't make any reference to that in my post

Secondly I am enjoying watching him on this.he had made some comments which have made me laugh. Its a light hearted TV show and I am not apologising for liking him on this

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/11/2022 19:41

Blossomtoes · 08/11/2022 09:42

Good to see that in a supposedly civilised society the lynch mob is still alive and well.

Don't talk soft.

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/11/2022 19:50

I don’t expect artists to be role models - for all I know the chef who prepared my food, or the teller who served me may also have committed horrible crimes. I don’t feel the need to hold people on TV to a higher standard.

Well you should, @ZaSar , because they influence other people, whether you like it or not - and frankly, if I found out the chef in my favourite restaurant was a rapist or abuser, then I would stop eating there.

Judgemental? Maybe. But it would sicken me to think that I was in the same building. I am well aware that by the law of averages I probably cross paths with a violent abuser at least once a week, but I don't know it and am not supporting that person with my custom.

TrashyPanda · 08/11/2022 20:14

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 17:02

@BettyUnderswoob

It is if they drop the charges. And actually things like that can be factored into sentencing and often are.

It is the Crown that prosecutes, not the victim.

why do you keep making statements that are blatantly false?

ClandestineAdulation · 08/11/2022 21:21

“As an observer of my own feelings…”

Ok hun Hmm

limitedperiodonly · 08/11/2022 21:27

Sheitgeist · 08/11/2022 19:04

I've never met a woman in the UK who thinks rape is OK Confused

Really @Sheitgeist? Rape is never okay wherever it happens but lots of people including those in the UK think it is entirely acceptable in certain circumstances. I'm surprised you've never met a male or female in the UK or abroad who wouldn't say that.

I don't think rape is okay. I am mostly in the UK but when I travel abroad do no think it is okay to rape me.

Do you agree?

SkylightSkylight · 08/11/2022 21:58

Podgedodge · 08/11/2022 06:05

I suppose the thing is, you can ‘do your time’ , be rehabilitated, live a good life, but not then to be able to go on TV commanding a massive appearance fee. It just underlines the one rule for the already rich and/ or famous trope.

So no one should be able to go back to their career if they've served time then?

prison is supposed to be the sentence, not the holding space before one starts one's life sentence.

???

Tillsforthrills · 08/11/2022 22:12

SkylightSkylight · 08/11/2022 21:58

So no one should be able to go back to their career if they've served time then?

prison is supposed to be the sentence, not the holding space before one starts one's life sentence.

???

So you think it’s fair that the victims of rapists who are coping with life long trauma, have to see their rapist taking in money in showbiz roles?

If it were you or your child, family member etc would you have the same blasé attitude?

category12 · 08/11/2022 22:31

SkylightSkylight · 08/11/2022 21:58

So no one should be able to go back to their career if they've served time then?

prison is supposed to be the sentence, not the holding space before one starts one's life sentence.

???

No, again, what I want is for them not to be given the massive opportunity that is a platform on mainstream media.

I think you should lose that gift, that lucky shot you had, your fifteen minutes of fame, if you commit a violent / sexual offence.

There's nothing to stop people like Boy George earning a living writing music, living off his back catalogue, working the circuit.

There's no reason he should be on prime time tv.