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Boy George. What an absolute tool

548 replies

SpeckledlyHen · 07/11/2022 22:15

That’s it really. Total and utter twat.

OP posts:
Sparklingbrook · 08/11/2022 14:25

BobbyBobbyBobby · 08/11/2022 14:23

You are right. I apologise ..... to bags of spanner’s.

Blimey. How has CM hurt you personally? Confused

category12 · 08/11/2022 14:27

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 14:21

@category12

Im not trolling at all. My Boyfriend and I have been watching old horror movies (Rosemarys baby came up) and then watched a bunch more Polanski films like Chinatown and a later one filmed in his exile with Johnny Depp and I watched some stuff about his life and the Manson murder of Sharon Tate and his child (it was horrible).

I just don’t see the point, after all the time that’s past and he’s seemingly been celebrated in the US aside from by the justice department of punishing him now, especially given what happened to him around that time. Hasn’t the universe punished him enough already?

No, he has not been punished at all, let alone enough.

He has been much feted for years, been the darling and genius of film-making, had a hugely successful career and made lots of money.

All after raping a young girl and running away from the consequences.

He's under a cloud of other allegations.

It is a fact that sex offenders rarely have one victim, there are usually multiple offences, multiple victims. And this appears to be the case with him, as accusations have come out over the years.

Bollocks has he been punished enough. He was never stopped as he should have been.

TheFreaksShallInheritTheEarth · 08/11/2022 14:27

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 14:05

@TheFreaksShallInheritTheEarth

I don’t know anything about any other cases or alleged crimes. But in relation to the one crime he was charged with his victim said she wanted closure and for it to be dropped - that is why I’m saying she may want closure and that could have given it to her. As it is he will certainly die abroad, famous and celebrated and untried in law - how does that help her?

No. She never wanted the charges against him dropped, she wanted to move on and forget about it and chose to forgive him as a way of giving herself closure.

Besides which, raping a child is a horrific crime that must always be punished, whether the victim later forgives the rapist or not.

Anyway, I'm done with you. I find paedophile apologists repulsive.

TrashyPanda · 08/11/2022 14:30

I also find it hard to believe that a 90 yo in a historical statutory rape case would be given hard time

it was rape of a child.

not consensual intercourse with a minor (which is what statutory rape is) so don’t try to minimise it

it was rape

of a child.

the repellency of the crime does not diminish with time.
prisoners, like the majority of people find child rapists disgusting.

i find it hard to believe that anyone would excuse a child rapist on account of his current age.

why would they? What difference does it make?

BettyUnderswoob · 08/11/2022 14:33

he’s seemingly been celebrated in the US aside from by the justice department

Hasn’t the universe punished him enough already?

Eh? Which is it, @ZaSar? Has he been celebrated or punished?

He has not actually been punished for his crimes at all, has he?

monsteramunch · 08/11/2022 14:33

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TrashyPanda · 08/11/2022 14:39

it was so long ago and shortly after the Manson family murdered his wife and unborn child

so what if it was in 1977.
he raped a child

and it wasn’t “shortly” after the murder of Sharon and his baby in 1969

it was 8 years later.

why do you continue to make things up trying to defend a child rapist?

WahineToa · 08/11/2022 14:44

I find paedophile apologists repulsive.

Me too. If it continues I’m going to have to report it. It’s not ok. So many people are victims of child abuse, to continue the way they are is really disturbing and not acceptable. It’s enough now.

There are child rapists from boarding schools in this country being charged with historic crimes. I’ve no idea why this person on the thread believes at some point the law just forgets about it, or that we should morally do so if they’re old and had something horrible happen to them.

TrashyPanda · 08/11/2022 14:44

I just don’t see the point of getting upset over it now, especially when all his movies still show, he’s won the best director Oscar since and Harrison Ford presented it to him and most people probably watched the Pianist

people get upset because he is a child rapist who has evaded the law. He’s a vile, disgusting criminal who should be behind bars.

and it seems Hollywood has finally cottoned on to this. On 3 May 2018, Polanski was removed from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, with the decision referencing the case. Showing it is never too late.

TrashyPanda · 08/11/2022 14:47

Hasn’t the universe punished him enough already?

so in your world, an horrific murder makes it fine to go a rape a child, cos you’ve already been punished.

wow.

that’s incredible.

total lack of reasoning.

MidnightConstellation · 08/11/2022 14:51

bringincrazyback · 08/11/2022 00:34

So it's impossible for anyone over the age of 60 to be relevant? And why assume he was only 'pretending' to meditate?

He’s credited his Buddhist practice with turning his life around. So not ‘pretending to meditate’.

bringincrazyback · 08/11/2022 15:39

MidnightConstellation · 08/11/2022 14:51

He’s credited his Buddhist practice with turning his life around. So not ‘pretending to meditate’.

Exactly.

JOFFCV · 08/11/2022 15:55

PollyAmour · 08/11/2022 13:50

Chris Moyles looks like a little old man. He's almost unrecognisable. I think he looked better fat.

He is probably healthier now.

JOFFCV · 08/11/2022 15:58

I can understand people calling Boy George but why have a dig at the others? If you don't want to watch it don't.

Very childish!

NamelessNancy · 08/11/2022 16:21

It's an interesting take that if the victim forgives the perpetrator need not be punished. How far does this go? What about protecting any future victims? Should the attitude of the victim alone dictate the punishment? Whilst in RP case I could not have more sympathy for the victim(s) I think it is right that society expects him to be held to account. Regardless of how much time has passed and what else has happened in his life.

In the case of BG I understand his victim has not forgiven? Should we view him more harshly for his crime as a result? Or does his turn to spiritualism mean it's all ok now?

category12 · 08/11/2022 16:29

NamelessNancy · 08/11/2022 16:21

It's an interesting take that if the victim forgives the perpetrator need not be punished. How far does this go? What about protecting any future victims? Should the attitude of the victim alone dictate the punishment? Whilst in RP case I could not have more sympathy for the victim(s) I think it is right that society expects him to be held to account. Regardless of how much time has passed and what else has happened in his life.

In the case of BG I understand his victim has not forgiven? Should we view him more harshly for his crime as a result? Or does his turn to spiritualism mean it's all ok now?

And it would be so open to abuse - coerce, bribe, intimidate (or as in this case let time and never being able to live your life without the shadow of his crime against you wear down) your victim until they "forgive" you.

BettyUnderswoob · 08/11/2022 16:39

It's not the case that a victim's forgiveness means a criminal need not face justice or punishment, and it never should be. A crime is a crime.
You could never "allow" someone to murder you. Even with your written consent, they'd be jailed for life.
As @category12 noted, such a scheme would be mired in abuse, coercion, intimidation, bribery or other corruption.
Victims never choose the punishment.

BrilliantBadgers · 08/11/2022 16:39

lollipoprainbow · 08/11/2022 08:01

I've always got nasty vibes from CM, a few snidey comments already I've noticed from him.

Remember when he called a female newsreader a slut live on air on radio one?! He's not a nice man.

Bogglebrain · 08/11/2022 16:57

BrilliantBadgers · 08/11/2022 16:39

Remember when he called a female newsreader a slut live on air on radio one?! He's not a nice man.

He also targeted Nicola Roberts from Girls Aloud.

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 17:02

@BettyUnderswoob

It is if they drop the charges. And actually things like that can be factored into sentencing and often are.

BettyUnderswoob · 08/11/2022 17:06

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 17:02

@BettyUnderswoob

It is if they drop the charges. And actually things like that can be factored into sentencing and often are.

You can't choose to "drop the charges" for serious crimes. It's not in the victims' power to do that.
Obviously, crimes such as rape, kidnapping, extortion etc. couldn't fly if the victim refuses to cooperate, but it's not them that brings the charges in the first place.

WahineToa · 08/11/2022 17:13

It’s not the charges that would be dropped anyway, he pled guilty and was convicted, awaiting sentencing. The victim can impact sentencing by giving victim impact statement, or not.They cannot determine whether or not sentencing takes place once he’s convicted. Which Polanski was. He didn’t turn up for his sentencing. Another offence. Victims can’t determine outcome of that either.

monsteramunch · 08/11/2022 17:25

I think we've established @ZaSar doesn't have much of a grip on the legal aspect of things tbh. Or moral aspect on the RP front.

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 17:27

@WahineToa

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

For me it’s possible to enjoy someone’s art without them being morally perfect or looking up to them as a human being.

I just think if people have suffered or payed already and you don’t know the situation personally what business is it of ours really? Be kind, I say

category12 · 08/11/2022 17:29

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 17:27

@WahineToa

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

For me it’s possible to enjoy someone’s art without them being morally perfect or looking up to them as a human being.

I just think if people have suffered or payed already and you don’t know the situation personally what business is it of ours really? Be kind, I say

He hasn't paid.

The Manson murders do not give him licence to rape young girls and women.

Be kind to a child rapist? ODFOD