Car crash Liz Truss BBC interview tonight

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Did anybody see it?
It was really cringe-worthy

She said 'deliver' about 230 times and blinked about 200 times a minute

She also said she's staying and is planning on leading the Tories into the next election! 😱

After this interview I have shelved the pity I was feeling for her. If I had done what she has I'd be leaving the country, changing my name and considering plastic surgery. She's certainly got a brass neck!

I agree. I'll reserve my sympathy for the people who'll end up losing their homes because of this shit government that they didn't vote for.

I also heard of the radio that ex PMs get £115,000 a year for life.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

As pointed out on another thread. It appears to be more than that. They get £115k expenses (receipts not necessary) plus half their PM salary for life.

= almost £200,000 a year.

Count how many years Truss might live for (40?) = £8m total bill.

Yes, not bright enough to realise experts might know a bit more than you do. In farness, the same can be said for their voters, the 'fed up of experts' lot.

When Major introduced these amounts, I bet he never imagined someone could/would do 6 weeks work for it!

@willowstar Hi, fellow Truss-sufferer… I can’t work out how she gets in either. I’ve come to the conclusion that you could nail a blue rosette to a fence post around here, and people would vote for it! Utterly bizarre.

I met her through my work many years ago, when she was a minister for education. It was a weird experience - she‘d come to see the charity I worked for, which does lots of interesting stuff. You could have found out about international development, social issues in this country, certain aspects of the food industry, sport - all sorts. Yet she ended up banging on about childcare staffing ratios, which had absolutely nothing to do with anything we did. It was like she wasn’t listening when you spoke - she was thinking of what she wanted to say next.

I remember writing to her more recently, asking her to attend a National Autistic Society reception in Parliament. I took ages tailoring the boilerplate letter with details about my son’s experiences. I didn’t really expect her to go along. But she couldn’t even be bothered to send a reply. Not even a copy and paste job. Says it all.

Talk of John Major reminds me how "boring" he was (the grey spitting image puppet) which didn't seem to hold him back.

Something the Keir Starmer detractors should ponder ?

I don't know, I feel sorry for her, and I'm in a position (disabled) where her cuts would have virtually finished me off. She's clearly struggling mentally and is possibly on some sleeping or anxiety medication and has bitten off more than she can chew being PM. BUT she has stood up against self-ID and in behalf of women (generally and GC) at a time when that stance was not popular or trendy. I think she still could have been a competent Tory PM, but power maybe went to her head. She threw caution away. Maybe her success as trade secretary gave her a sense of false confidence. It's possible she was also steered into her own self-destruction by other cabinet ministers sitting back rather than coming forward with constructive advice.

I'm not happy to see women in the public eye fail or be pulled down. The newspapers are as much to blame for promoting her to serve their own interests and we for accepting this time, after time.

Further to the Peter Oborne video:
twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1582303415576715265?s=20&t=YNsYY2eI2aAh8Nm9qzLhRQ

I'm not happy to see women in the public eye fail or be pulled down.

Why ? Because they're women ?

If more incompetent arseholes were taken out purely because they are incompetent, we wouldn't be in this mess.

John Major had more going on and a cabinet with personality, so he didn't really need one. Politics then had MPs with more passion, substance and personality overall, so he looked boring in that context

Keir Starmer still manages to be boring against a sea of un-noteworthy persons. With MPs who do not catch your attention.

KS had the upper hand yesterday, but I felt Penny Mordaunt still nearly crushed him despite things being so obviously in his favour.

Love or hate Boris Johnson he had the 'it' factor. Something happened once he caught covid and he was brought face to face with his own mortality plus some unwise decisions in his personal life.

Keir Starmer's popularity depends on the Tories to really screw up (as has happened) otherwise he doesn't have enough on his own to pull large votes. He's not even of the Marmite type, who inspires strong emotion either way like the last Labour leader.

Completely agree. She's been a nasty part of appalling governments for years now. She is dismissive, arrogant and deeply unpleasant. Nobody enjoys seeing someone humiliated, as she is being, but you can bet your bottom dollar that the minute she thinks she'd get away with some of this again, she'll be there doing further damage to the likes of ordinary people. She is absolutely dreadful. I don't especially want her to suffer. I just want her to go.

Brilliant work by LLBD about the utter scum that they are.

I don't especially want her to suffer.

Oh I do. Pour encourager les autres, as Voltaire said

Because in the Tory women are often elected when things are shit.

Thatcher surprised everyone, she turned out to be ideological but competent also, and she was strong! I was a child when she was Prime Minister, but watching footage of her as an adult, my goodness the fire in her! I could see it, although I don't like what she stood for.

May, and now Truss, have been elected to help clean up the kitchen so another man can walk in once the ground is prepared.

That's why I'm not jumping for joy to see her holding back tears on TV.

Plus I think I just respected and admittedly was grateful for her GC stance. She really came into her own when talking about that.

That's another reason I want her to do well. That became a talking point of the PM selection campaign. She's partly responsible for that. It might be a small part, but she did help make it a political issue. I want protecting women's sexed based rights to remain a key pledge of any party leader going forward.

**In the Tory party

Thatcher surprised everyone, she turned out to be ideological but competent also, and she was strong! I was a child when she was Prime Minister, but watching footage of her as an adult, my goodness the fire in her! I could see it, although I don't like what she stood for.

The brief for Tory party leader then was "Anybody but Heath".

Watch the Peter Oborne video posted by elvedon. She is in the pockets of the super super rich.

Jesus wept. Utterly utterly sickening. She ruins us all in a few weeks and then could sit back never work another day and get 10 million plus for it. That’s without any backhanders she may have got to put through tax cuts for the rich. I don’t remember saying this about any politician ever but I wish bad on her, I really do.

LT seems to have a personality issue that makes her convinced of her own rightness and an unwillingness to listen to views/advice of others.

She also made a huge political disaster of filling her cabinet based on the person's loyalty to her, personally, during the leadership campaign rather than experience and competence for the job. Surrounding herself with her own fan club means that nobody is asking the difficult (and inconvenient) questions.

I once heard a self-professed Christian explain that the inclusion of Peter and Thomas as disciples was an example from the Big J about including dissent. Ironically if Truss was the Christian she claims to be, she wouldn't know that either because she really is that thick. But it's not through any lack of opportunity.

I hope we suffers a lot!! She’s a psychopath!

Wild speculation on LBC that Theresa May could come back in the national interest and that the Tories will take their time - but an acclamation not a member's vote and they can take their time and use Truss as a punch bag unless she walks in the meantime. !

Keir Starmer's popularity depends on the Tories to really screw up

I think we’re well beyond voting on popularity. Look where that’s got us. And the Tories really can’t screw up much more, peak screwing up has surely been reached?

The next election will come down to which party will put the most money into people’s pockets and investment in public services. The Tories will never be elected on the NHS, education and welfare and those will be the key issues in the next election.