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Car crash Liz Truss BBC interview tonight

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GreenLunchBox · 17/10/2022 23:50

Did anybody see it?
It was really cringe-worthy

She said 'deliver' about 230 times and blinked about 200 times a minute

She also said she's staying and is planning on leading the Tories into the next election! 😱

After this interview I have shelved the pity I was feeling for her. If I had done what she has I'd be leaving the country, changing my name and considering plastic surgery. She's certainly got a brass neck!

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Colderthanever · 18/10/2022 10:04

I actually think she is heavily medicated or had been drinking. Everything about her delivery and demeanour said so. Something is very wrong, on a purely human basis she wasn’t right and is not behaving like she’s bright and alert or functioning normally

Damnautocorrect · 18/10/2022 10:04

Has she ever stuck with anything?
Lib Dem’s?
anti monarchy
anti brexit.

she’s a complete puppet repeating what she’s told to repeat.

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 10:06

I'm getting a bit fed up of the rhetoric being peddled across social media that LT is having some sort of mental health episode/breakdown. In part because it feels to me like it comes tinged with misogyny - poor little woman messed it up and but don't worry, just pop her in the corner to cry while the men come in and sort it.

I agree with this. Even more so the thought process that someone should save her from herself or the suggestion she has no choice. Or that we know she's having a breakdown because of how she looks: as if 'looking like you're having an emotional breakdown' has not been used forever to explain/dismiss women's actions.

It removes her agency.

She is not a child, she is entirely free to make her own choices. She can end all this stress tomorrow with a resignation note and live, quite happily, on the millions she has and the millions she will be paid over the coming decades in pension and expenses.

She has more choices than most of us. She is not a child to be looked after.

Croque · 18/10/2022 10:09

I reckon she will turn into a staunch Labour supporter within the next year. She would like to try that one too.

SandrasAnnoyingFriend · 18/10/2022 10:10

VeniVidiWeeWee · 18/10/2022 02:11

@donquixotedelamancha

You think what Brown did with the gold reserves was competent?

People always bleat on about this. The current value of those reserves would have been about 7 billion, it would and has made fuck all difference.
It's a lazy trope repeated by people with limited economic education.

PerkingFaintly · 18/10/2022 10:12

Truss has been reminding me for a while now of Chloe Smith – she of the car crash Paxman interview when sent in to bat in place of cowardly George Osborne.

The resemblance has only got stronger seeing the public reaction to Truss's current behaviour. Sympathy and "poor little woman messed it up." Hmm

This isn't someone who has unexpectedly been hit by illness or personal tragedy whilst already in office. This is someone who fought for this high office weeks ago and is now suffering the consequences of her active choices days ago.

If she's in need of care, then her own people – the ones who got her there – can carry her out and deal with her.

I'll be saving my sympathy for people suffering because of her disastrous announcements.

vera99 · 18/10/2022 10:12

Croque · 18/10/2022 10:09

I reckon she will turn into a staunch Labour supporter within the next year. She would like to try that one too.

Nothing can be ruled out in this mass hallucination we are all part of. King Charles should get on his horse and ride to Parliament and address the Lords with a Noble Address.

L0bstersLass · 18/10/2022 10:14

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 09:42

Courtesy of Twitter

She's going to slip out the back door, isn't she?
She'll wash up on a caravan site in Wales. Her and Coffey drinking cider and shouting at passing cars.

Please no. Wales hasn't done anything to deserve that!

PerkingFaintly · 18/10/2022 10:14

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 10:06

I'm getting a bit fed up of the rhetoric being peddled across social media that LT is having some sort of mental health episode/breakdown. In part because it feels to me like it comes tinged with misogyny - poor little woman messed it up and but don't worry, just pop her in the corner to cry while the men come in and sort it.

I agree with this. Even more so the thought process that someone should save her from herself or the suggestion she has no choice. Or that we know she's having a breakdown because of how she looks: as if 'looking like you're having an emotional breakdown' has not been used forever to explain/dismiss women's actions.

It removes her agency.

She is not a child, she is entirely free to make her own choices. She can end all this stress tomorrow with a resignation note and live, quite happily, on the millions she has and the millions she will be paid over the coming decades in pension and expenses.

She has more choices than most of us. She is not a child to be looked after.

TheGhostOfLiz said what I wanted to, but much better.

skyhighomen · 18/10/2022 10:14

yossell · 18/10/2022 09:52

That will be the same Telegraph that called this "the best budget [they] had heard a British chancellor deliver by a massive margin"

The telegraph, the Mail, the times have become propaganda papers for the wealthy tax-avoiding billionaire classes and they're comments have to be seen as such. They're deeply implicated in this mess and we need to wake up to what their real agenda is.

Is anyone else completely bewildered by the last few weeks??

Tory members elect leader on promise of tax cuts and massive borrowing

Elected leader does just that, right wing papers splash across covers, 'At last a true Tory budget'

Market collapse (temporary) and same Tories dis-own her, she in turn dis-owns chancellor who was simply carrying out her bidding.

I mean for fucks sake, markets like stability, surely what she should of done was ride out the storm, point to the Tory members who elected her and told everyone to fuck off. I might have a molecule of respect for her had she done that, I think most of the public , even the left, would have respected her for that.

I hated Thatcher , but she did largely what she wanted and didn't care if it was unpopular, even her enemies respected her for that.

ScotsLassie322 · 18/10/2022 10:17

Would people on here still vote Tory? I can't say I understand it unless you are wealthy.

On scotsnet it tends to be very much Tory voters that post on it , however they've actually been quite quiet recently.

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 10:17

surely what she should of done was ride out the storm, point to the Tory members who elected her and told everyone to fuck off.

How could she? Remember all the warnings about Corbyn turning us into Venezuela? That’s what that would have achieved.

Genevieva · 18/10/2022 10:18

When they have a catch phrase of word that they repeat ad infinitum you know they are just a puppet on a string. Even if she isn't the best leader, her MPs are barking to stab her in the back this side of a general election. A lot of them are going to lose their seats as things stand, so they would do well to knuckle down and get on with their actual job, rather than participating in all this navel gazing. I think there should be some sort of change to parliamentary rules. If a prime minister retires or has health problem then I have no problem with them being replaced according to the current system, but when they stand down because of an in eternal parliamentary party coup I think it should trigger a general election. It might make them think twice about what their priorities should be.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 10:18

elvedon · 18/10/2022 09:37

Not sure if anyone has posted this earlier, but it is terrifying

Spot on - well worth watching

Hmmph · 18/10/2022 10:19

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 10:06

I'm getting a bit fed up of the rhetoric being peddled across social media that LT is having some sort of mental health episode/breakdown. In part because it feels to me like it comes tinged with misogyny - poor little woman messed it up and but don't worry, just pop her in the corner to cry while the men come in and sort it.

I agree with this. Even more so the thought process that someone should save her from herself or the suggestion she has no choice. Or that we know she's having a breakdown because of how she looks: as if 'looking like you're having an emotional breakdown' has not been used forever to explain/dismiss women's actions.

It removes her agency.

She is not a child, she is entirely free to make her own choices. She can end all this stress tomorrow with a resignation note and live, quite happily, on the millions she has and the millions she will be paid over the coming decades in pension and expenses.

She has more choices than most of us. She is not a child to be looked after.

Eeek. Sorry. I said Mr Truss should have a word. I think I meant it as her nearest and dearest (presumably) should should say its ok to step down. Sometimes we need to be told it's ok and there's a way out and that is what a partner should do if they love someone.

I didn't really think about misogyny. I am going to reflect on that now. It's so ingrained in me by society/life that it takes recognising. (Even though I am a biological female woman).

She is totally at fault though.

Genevieva · 18/10/2022 10:20

*internal (not in eternal!)
and a catch phrase or word (not of).

I should proof read before posting.

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 10:23

I said Mr Truss should have a word

So did I. It’s not misogyny, it’s what people do when they care about the other half of their team. I’d say the same either way round.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 10:23

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 09:15

Interesting thread on this here: twitter.com/mac_puck/status/1581911289638420481

BBC article about the think tanks from Tufton St - v interesting

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-63039558.amp

elvedon · 18/10/2022 10:23

Cannot believe people are falling for the poor Liz line.

She is part of a movement working for the super rich and a huge transfer of our funds and power to them. We saw this begin with the bail out of the bankers in 2008

Wake up

Wheresthebeach · 18/10/2022 10:24

I think she looks stressed for sure, but her delivery has always been just...odd.

This is hilarious - and it does show her odd delivery.

I feel some empathy for her on a human level - Global humiliation can't be easy to take. But she brought this on herself and is now jumping ship on what she said she believed in faster than the sleekest rat can go.

vera99 · 18/10/2022 10:29

Wheresthebeach · 18/10/2022 10:24

I think she looks stressed for sure, but her delivery has always been just...odd.

This is hilarious - and it does show her odd delivery.

I feel some empathy for her on a human level - Global humiliation can't be easy to take. But she brought this on herself and is now jumping ship on what she said she believed in faster than the sleekest rat can go.

Brilliant.

Jessiesthedog · 18/10/2022 10:30

Why oh why oh why do women keep excepting the poison chalice is there are roles in my company but I would turn down because I would refuse to put my head on the chopping block for them. I just don’t understand why it’s always a woman that steps up to these shit sandwiches.

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 10:36

Hmmph · 18/10/2022 10:19

Eeek. Sorry. I said Mr Truss should have a word. I think I meant it as her nearest and dearest (presumably) should should say its ok to step down. Sometimes we need to be told it's ok and there's a way out and that is what a partner should do if they love someone.

I didn't really think about misogyny. I am going to reflect on that now. It's so ingrained in me by society/life that it takes recognising. (Even though I am a biological female woman).

She is totally at fault though.

Grin

I was thinking more on stuff I'd read on BBC and Twitter etc. Agree that a good partner would step in and help bring support and clarity when you're floundering.

Kendodd · 18/10/2022 10:37

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 10:18

Spot on - well worth watching

Thank you.
Seen that posted a few times before, first time I've watched it though.

kateandme · 18/10/2022 10:40

People sat blaming truss though need to have a word with themselves.this is her,this is her beliefs and her morals or lack of.but she isn’t sat alone round a table and all these decisions she had to apologise for weren’t just HER own.they were hers as a Tory thinker,but alos advised and discussed and agreed by all those other people now swimming around her like sharks to a seal.they sat and talked it all through,she is their figure head that stood up and announced it.
her going doesn’t stop the devastation.it’s only the Tory’s once again winning because it’s giving them a scapegoat.it’s taking the focus off the shit storm they are still pedalling.