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Car crash Liz Truss BBC interview tonight

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GreenLunchBox · 17/10/2022 23:50

Did anybody see it?
It was really cringe-worthy

She said 'deliver' about 230 times and blinked about 200 times a minute

She also said she's staying and is planning on leading the Tories into the next election! 😱

After this interview I have shelved the pity I was feeling for her. If I had done what she has I'd be leaving the country, changing my name and considering plastic surgery. She's certainly got a brass neck!

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anonacfr · 18/10/2022 08:37

Well a jovial Tory MP was on channel 4 yesterday cheerfully announced there was no way the government would call a GE because thr Tories would only be left with about 60 MPs.
In his words, it's important to have a strong opposition so they won't do it.

Sure. That ls the reason.

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:38

I don’t disagree that Truss needs to go, but to describe Brown as ‘competent’ as a PP has done, is really stretching the truth.

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 08:39

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 07:12

@donquixotedelamancha Brown who not only sold off our gold reserves at the bottom of the market, despite being advised by many, many people not to - I know this as I was working on a trading floor at the time and our head of bullion trading was one of those called to meet with him and plead with him not to.

Then also removed the tax relief on dividends paid to pension funds? Which lead to the death of final salary pension schemes and the development of LDI schemes? That Brown?

He didn’t crash the economy, did he? He presided over a decade of a stable growing economy in contrast to the entire thing blown to smithereens in just a couple of weeks. Seriously, if you had to choose one …

Notonthestairs · 18/10/2022 08:40

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 08:27

Is 'Brown made a mistake 25 years ago' is a strong a pro-Truss argument as there is?

Yes. Despite the fact the Conservatives have been in power for 12 years. An acknowledgement perhaps that the Conservatives have spent most of their time concentrating on UKIP/Bruges Group/ERG threats.

So many posters remarkably sanguine about the idea we don't have a Prime Minister.

Even now the Conservatives can't find a unity candidate.

Lesserspottedmama · 18/10/2022 08:40

Anydaynowonewouldhope · 18/10/2022 08:35

Brown may or may not have made decisions that were not ideal in hindsight.

and of course he has an ego

byt I don’t think anyone can really doubt he was driven by public service and at the end of the day wanted to improve society.

Cameron had some notion of social good even though it was very very compromised. But after that? Pure corrupt greed.

it’s just been a steady decline in morals and decency in the leadership of this country under the conservatives.

the fact that she won’t resign is appalling.

and yes she is doped up to her eyeballs. Immoral way to govern.

Agree with this summery, absolutely. At the Queens funeral when they were sat all in a ghastly row like the ghouls of the most macabre Christmas past nightmare, I thought then that they’d pretty much plummeted in leadership calibre each and every time.

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:42

@Blossomtoes he decimated our pensions though, and as a country, we’d have an awful lot more cash if we weren’t spending billions every year propping up pension schemes.

Brahumbug · 18/10/2022 08:43

Badbadbunny · 18/10/2022 08:17

He didn't "save" it, he helped kick the can into the long grass. Some of that is coming home to roost with the financial markets worldwide on a knife edge constantly, just waiting until the house of cards comes crashing down.

Of course he saved it, that isn't my opinion, check out the foreign press who were impressed by his decisive action. The whole banking system was about to implode until Gordon Brown persuaded western governments to take concerted action. Only the right-wing press in the UK deny.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/10/2022 08:43

FreddyHG · 18/10/2022 08:26

Sorry don't buy that at all he was an idiot who was part of the system that allowed banks to be overleveraged partly due to massive house price growth oh his watch. He spent billions massively increasing the national debt. To use a car driving metaphor He was asleep at the wheel and swerved just as he was about to hit a child into a parked Ferrari.

Right now everyone’s money is safe, everyone’s bank and credit cards are working and continued to work in 2008. We can talk about the problems GB caused and they were many. However, he did not solely cause the melt down of banking systems and he had the intelligence to sort it out, not just for the U.K. but half the western world. LT otoh has single handedly done the opposite. Alone. Had someone not stepped in, we would be bankrupt.

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 18/10/2022 08:45

The image Truss projects is disastrous. As well as the diabolical economic mess she has got us into, think how she looks to the rest of the world, blinking and twitching like a scared rabbit. She needs to go. Quickly.

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 08:45

On the interview last night: it was awful, wasn't it? In fact, I am now a little bit in awe of Truss's ability to make things worse every time she opens her mouth.

Every time she speaks, the electorate gets more angry and the markets drop. As they appear to be doing this morning, following last night's interview.

Along with her now-proven ability to leave everyone worse off than when she started. It's really quite a unique set of 'skills' she has.

peridito · 18/10/2022 08:49

I don't think blinking and a fixed smile indicate drugs .Imagine how you'd look if you were trying to maintain your equilibrium while also conveying some sense of not being defeated .And keeping that up for an hour with loads of hostile people looking at you and knowing that there are cameras trained on you .

She's hardly going to say "yes ,I'm off out of here as soon as a replacement can be frog marched in ".

She's a hopeless public speaker and interviewee and doesn't seem very bright . But I really don't think she's on anything .

inheritanceshiteagain · 18/10/2022 08:49

I have no idea why she was elected. What was the rationale behind it? Did those people actually think she could provide massive tax cuts without any funding. It's crazy. Sunak made sense, she was a disaster. No idea who put her forward.

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 08:50

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:42

@Blossomtoes he decimated our pensions though, and as a country, we’d have an awful lot more cash if we weren’t spending billions every year propping up pension schemes.

Once more, he didn’t destroy the economy, he didn’t have taxes higher than any since the 1950s and he invested in and improved public services. For a decade. Ten bloody years. Truss has wrecked our economy in ten days.

peridito · 18/10/2022 08:51

cansu · Today 07:28

Where was her cabinet? All these cabinet members and her supporters have spent the last week defending these policies. The tory press congratulated her on her mini budget. All these people deserve to have their reputation shredded too.

This ^^

Holidayexpert · 18/10/2022 08:51

I think she is heavily drugged a lot of the time.

The blank expression, the constant blinking and the repetitive phrases that are completely out of context to what she’s been asked in interviews.

She’s seriously mentally unstable!

vera99 · 18/10/2022 08:52

ancientgran · 18/10/2022 08:33

I was wondering why we are having an "All our yesterdays" moment while Rome is buring.

Latest attack lines - but Jeremy Corbyn has become but Gordon Brown -desperate whataboutery.

RoyalCorgi · 18/10/2022 08:52

Aside from all the terrible things she's done, I think Truss's biggest weakness is her lack of social skills. Every time Boris did something awful, he would somehow charm his way out of it. Not that I find him charming, but it's clear that some people found that what-ho jolly bluster appealing.

She doesn't come across as having any of the personal qualities people like in a leader - Thatcher's unwavering self-confidence, or Blair's boyish enthusiasm, or Cameron's "I'm an ordinary family man" demeanour. You just can't imagine her inspiring anyone to do her bidding. The fact that she threw her strongest political and personal ally under the bus shows that she is not in any sense a team player. She is basically on her own.

peridito · 18/10/2022 08:52

And as @ancientgran said why we are having an "All our yesterdays" moment while Rome is burning?

peridito · 18/10/2022 08:54

I think Truss's biggest weakness is her lack of social skills
Spot on @RoyalCorgi .

vera99 · 18/10/2022 08:55

RoyalCorgi · 18/10/2022 08:52

Aside from all the terrible things she's done, I think Truss's biggest weakness is her lack of social skills. Every time Boris did something awful, he would somehow charm his way out of it. Not that I find him charming, but it's clear that some people found that what-ho jolly bluster appealing.

She doesn't come across as having any of the personal qualities people like in a leader - Thatcher's unwavering self-confidence, or Blair's boyish enthusiasm, or Cameron's "I'm an ordinary family man" demeanour. You just can't imagine her inspiring anyone to do her bidding. The fact that she threw her strongest political and personal ally under the bus shows that she is not in any sense a team player. She is basically on her own.

So true when he was up against the wall with no hope and seemingly no way forward he would bring out a brilliant seemingly ad-hoc speech. Like his eulogy for the Queen - he is an excellent orator but a terrible human being whereas Truss is just the latter.

badger2005 · 18/10/2022 08:56

peridito · 18/10/2022 08:52

And as @ancientgran said why we are having an "All our yesterdays" moment while Rome is burning?

I love this question (and the way of putting it).

Acis · 18/10/2022 08:57

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 07:22

It’s been estimated Brown’s tax grab on pensions cost the public £100bn in case people have forgotten.

www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/brown-has-raided-ps100-billion-from-pension-funds-7177626.html?amp

And yet the Conservatives have never reversed it, so presumably they agree.

Dogtooth · 18/10/2022 08:58

The human impact of it is horrendous but in purely political terms it's hilarious.

The Tufton Street libertarian arseholes spent 50 years infiltrating and preparing for this moment when they'd create some kind of ultra-right wing paradise and it's all exploded fantastically in about five seconds.

Why? Because people are generally good and don't like to see greed and exploitation used as guiding principles. Truss and co made the mistake of thinking everyone was as craven as them, when in truth not even fricking bankers are quite that devoid of compassion and sense.

There are many pimples on the nation's political bottom - Brexit, immigration etc - they're about to pop and we can get back to sensible, evidence based politics.

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 08:58

vera99 · 18/10/2022 08:52

Latest attack lines - but Jeremy Corbyn has become but Gordon Brown -desperate whataboutery.

Exactly. Talk about desperation. Did I dream that the Tories have been in power for the last 12.5 years?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/10/2022 08:59

Blossomtoes · 18/10/2022 08:50

Once more, he didn’t destroy the economy, he didn’t have taxes higher than any since the 1950s and he invested in and improved public services. For a decade. Ten bloody years. Truss has wrecked our economy in ten days.

Quite!!!

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