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Car crash Liz Truss BBC interview tonight

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GreenLunchBox · 17/10/2022 23:50

Did anybody see it?
It was really cringe-worthy

She said 'deliver' about 230 times and blinked about 200 times a minute

She also said she's staying and is planning on leading the Tories into the next election! 😱

After this interview I have shelved the pity I was feeling for her. If I had done what she has I'd be leaving the country, changing my name and considering plastic surgery. She's certainly got a brass neck!

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FiveMins · 18/10/2022 08:08

@donquixotedelamancha I agree Brown made a mistake. The cost of Brown's gold disaster £4.6 Billion. But this is sadly a drop in the ocean compared to what the Tories have done to our economy.
The cost of Truss's tax cuts to the richest is £2Bn per year until it gets reversed. If the Tories remain in power for another 2 years that alone is almost as bad as this gold and they can actually calculate it! Brown's gold was incalculable at the time.
That's without even thinking about Brexit:
"The UK government’s Office of Budget Responsibility calculated that Brexit would cost 4% of GDP per annum over the long term. 4% of 2021 UK GDP is the equivalent of a £32bn cost per annum to the UK taxpayer. After rebates, the UK’s EU membership fee in 2018 was £13.2bn." so that is about 18bn EVERY YEAR.
I'm not a Labour voter but it is indisputable that the Tories have damaged our economy far more and for much longer than Labour has.

FamilyTreeBuilder · 18/10/2022 08:10

I know someone who had a vote in the leadership election. He was a diehard Boris fan and would not vote for Rishi Sunak as he "stabbed Boris in the back" along with Sajid Javid by handing in their resignations.

He also thinks she's doing a marvellous job. (Although tbf might just be saying that to save face).

donquixotedelamancha · 18/10/2022 08:14

You think what Brown did with the gold reserves was competent?

That depends. Are you saying you think cream cheese and chive are the best crisps?

hellesbells · 18/10/2022 08:16

VeniVidiWeeWee · 18/10/2022 02:11

@donquixotedelamancha

You think what Brown did with the gold reserves was competent?

No comparison to what the tories pissed up the wall in PPE contracts to their mates, the fail
Ed track and trace system cost the country around 20x more the sale of the gold and of course the current mess cost billions more, the tories can't be trusted with the economy history has shown us that time and time again but tabloids like the mail, the sun tell the gullible otherwise

Badbadbunny · 18/10/2022 08:17

Brahumbug · 18/10/2022 07:26

Gordon Brown dropped the ball on gold reserves, but he was responsible for saving not only our banking system, but that of the entire western world. I couldn't imagine any of the current half wits being capable of that.

He didn't "save" it, he helped kick the can into the long grass. Some of that is coming home to roost with the financial markets worldwide on a knife edge constantly, just waiting until the house of cards comes crashing down.

MarshaBradyo · 18/10/2022 08:18

Hard to go when she’ll go. Damage seems too great to stay but hard to predict

hesbeingabitofadick · 18/10/2022 08:18

We were watching as Penny Mordaunt was making excuse after excuse for her...once Liz turned up we realised she must have been off her tits on something and they were waiting until she could stand/walk.

I think the lettuce will win.

Badbadbunny · 18/10/2022 08:19

FamilyTreeBuilder · 18/10/2022 08:10

I know someone who had a vote in the leadership election. He was a diehard Boris fan and would not vote for Rishi Sunak as he "stabbed Boris in the back" along with Sajid Javid by handing in their resignations.

He also thinks she's doing a marvellous job. (Although tbf might just be saying that to save face).

Lots of Tory members won't vote for Sunak because they were some of the 3 million self employed he excluded from covid support schemes!

HotDogJumpingFrogAlbuquerque · 18/10/2022 08:20

I’m just wondering if Liz is suddenly going to be ‘ill’ so won’t be able to partake in PMQs tomorrow ……

FreddyHG · 18/10/2022 08:20

Alexandra2001 · 18/10/2022 07:24

In context, yes, $ strong, stock markets rising, Gold prices stagnant, but in hindsight - a mistake.

It was also a 10th of what Sunak wasted on CV Business Support loans.

Didn't cause your mortgage rates to triple either did it?

CV support was a complete wast of money supported by both parties though there should have been fewer restrictions and businesses allowed to fold I'd they couldn't survive. It kept zombie businesses going for much longer than they should have been. Yet the labour and conservatives both supported this and labour wanted to spend more.

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:20

@Zonder you seem to forget, that he announced to the market what he was intending to do. School boy error.

www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpope/2019/05/07/remembering-not-so-golden-gordons-bizarre-bullion-blunder/amp/

MarshaBradyo · 18/10/2022 08:21

Go - know

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/10/2022 08:21

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 07:12

@donquixotedelamancha Brown who not only sold off our gold reserves at the bottom of the market, despite being advised by many, many people not to - I know this as I was working on a trading floor at the time and our head of bullion trading was one of those called to meet with him and plead with him not to.

Then also removed the tax relief on dividends paid to pension funds? Which lead to the death of final salary pension schemes and the development of LDI schemes? That Brown?

Sounds positively benign compared with the massive acts of economic , political & moral self harm since

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:22

However, by openly telling the market of his intent at the time of the first auction on July 6, 1999 the price had fallen another 10% as gold traders aggressively shorted the market knowing they would be able to cover their shorts with ease as the U.K. began unloading half of its holding.

hesbeingabitofadick · 18/10/2022 08:23

HotDogJumpingFrogAlbuquerque · 18/10/2022 08:20

I’m just wondering if Liz is suddenly going to be ‘ill’ so won’t be able to partake in PMQs tomorrow ……

or a sudden very very important diplomatic visit to somewhere...Togo has been suggested already Grin

Soproudoflionesses · 18/10/2022 08:25

I bet Rishi is pissing himself

FreddyHG · 18/10/2022 08:26

Brahumbug · 18/10/2022 07:26

Gordon Brown dropped the ball on gold reserves, but he was responsible for saving not only our banking system, but that of the entire western world. I couldn't imagine any of the current half wits being capable of that.

Sorry don't buy that at all he was an idiot who was part of the system that allowed banks to be overleveraged partly due to massive house price growth oh his watch. He spent billions massively increasing the national debt. To use a car driving metaphor He was asleep at the wheel and swerved just as he was about to hit a child into a parked Ferrari.

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 08:27

Is 'Brown made a mistake 25 years ago' is a strong a pro-Truss argument as there is?

L1ttledrummergirl · 18/10/2022 08:28

I wanted to slap the smirk off her face. If the job has made her ill she needs to go, if she's off her tits on something then she needs to go, if she's just incompetent then she needs to go.

General election now

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:31

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle benign that the tax payer is making contributions of c.25% of public sector wages into DB schemes to prop them up, and public sector workers are having to also pay c.8-10% of their wages into them in addition? That pensioners are having to be topped up with pension credits because pension schemes have never been able to recover? That many, many people in occupational schemes can’t afford to pay in the level of contributions needed to provide a decent level of pension in retirement and our pension schemes are based on highly leveraged, complex schemes because they offloaded equities due to the impact of the tax grab? Gosh.

CloudPop · 18/10/2022 08:32

I wonder if she'll even have time to sort that wallpaper out.

FlipFlops4Me · 18/10/2022 08:33

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 08:27

Is 'Brown made a mistake 25 years ago' is a strong a pro-Truss argument as there is?

What she said! 25 years ago is history for god's sake, the problems caused by Liz Truss are right now and she needs to be dealt with right now. History is something to study and learn from - apparently Liz did neither.

ancientgran · 18/10/2022 08:33

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 08:27

Is 'Brown made a mistake 25 years ago' is a strong a pro-Truss argument as there is?

I was wondering why we are having an "All our yesterdays" moment while Rome is buring.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/10/2022 08:33

edwinbear · 18/10/2022 08:31

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle benign that the tax payer is making contributions of c.25% of public sector wages into DB schemes to prop them up, and public sector workers are having to also pay c.8-10% of their wages into them in addition? That pensioners are having to be topped up with pension credits because pension schemes have never been able to recover? That many, many people in occupational schemes can’t afford to pay in the level of contributions needed to provide a decent level of pension in retirement and our pension schemes are based on highly leveraged, complex schemes because they offloaded equities due to the impact of the tax grab? Gosh.

Yes

Anydaynowonewouldhope · 18/10/2022 08:35

Brown may or may not have made decisions that were not ideal in hindsight.

and of course he has an ego

byt I don’t think anyone can really doubt he was driven by public service and at the end of the day wanted to improve society.

Cameron had some notion of social good even though it was very very compromised. But after that? Pure corrupt greed.

it’s just been a steady decline in morals and decency in the leadership of this country under the conservatives.

the fact that she won’t resign is appalling.

and yes she is doped up to her eyeballs. Immoral way to govern.