A woman is being sued for being disabled

[MrsPear]

Seriously the world has gone mad - a woman who is disabled is being sued by her air B and B guests for triggering them.

see her explain here

Message from MNHQ - please read the updates before posting as it appears that not everything may be as it first appears with this news story.

@Etak123
There are many ways the arguments from the complaints' side mirror trans ideology; they're so similar I can't help but think they're related.

In this case, the complainants argue that the host is responsible for their feelings and should have changed her behaviour to prevent offence (she should have clarified on her Airbnb listing that she was disabled to protect their feelings). Similarly, the transgender movement seeks recognition and protection from the state through intervention to regulate the behaviour of those outside the identity group. Either it is reasonable to demand restrictions on free expression to prevent offence, or it isn't. What's good for trans ideology is also good for the complainants.

The transgender movement also subscribes to a postmodern hierarchy of truth, where feelings and thoughts 'in here' are more real, true and important than physical things 'out there'. Similarly, the complainants argue that the host's feelings are less important than theirs since the host appeals to a protected characteristic rooted in biological reality, which matters less than their self-identified reality.

The complainants appear to be asking for the Equality Act to be amended to reflect that self-id is more important than biological reality. That is, to have it written in that their feelings trump the disabled host's right not to be discriminated against, which is exactly what the trans movement argues in regard to sex-based rights.

I think this is a way to demonstrate the absurdity of trans ideology without mentioning the word 'trans', which has the propensity to switch off reason in otherwise reasonable people. If a judgement is given, it is highly likely to contradict trans ideology and help support biology-based rights and freedom of expression elsewhere.

absolutely shocking

Havent read the full thread but I think most people are misunderstanding what is happening here.

The people suing don't WANT to win their case. They know it's frivolous and awful to sue a terminally ill woman for hurting their feelings. They WANT to lose so that a legal precedent is set so "my subjective mental health experience trumps everything" cant be considered a valid legal argument. They've deliberately chosen a situation that is very clear cut to highlight the absurdity of the situation.

I feel awful for the poor woman spending her last years fighting this case. But I can sympathize with their aims. We live in a world where causing offense is gradually being criminalised and damn right we should put a stop to that. I sincerely hope the woman is in on this and isn't actually feeling attacked.

At least that's my reading of it.

Has AirBnB said anything official about this? From one of the reports linked upthread it sounded as if they knew nothing about it. If they really did what this woman claims, they need to explain themselves urgently.

I did wonder about that. But in that case they should really let the defendant know so that she can relax, and should pay for her defence.

Thank you @Etak123 for your apology, I wouldn't wish hyper empathy on anyone it is distressing and exhausting and causes a whole load of difficulties for dd and I imagine you too.

From what I recall from watching her videos (I've followed from the beginning) Airbnb acting awfully from the start. They have a policy which gets the security team to call hosts if they feel unsafe. Because she's disabled she didn't get that, just a customer service call which didn't have the same urgent response that the security team would have.

Come on luv, you even said you don’t know why so you can’t have it both ways. I apologised for upsetting you and that I didn’t know vomiting was empathetic 🤦‍♀️ I know you can vomit from being distressed and upset but that’s not saying that is caused by empathy.
She could very well be disgusted by obvious disabilities and vomit, like you said you don’t know the reason and actually neither does anyone, not doctors or anyone but we are all entitled to our opinions and I don’t agree anyone vomits because of empathy, it doesn’t make sense and if something doesn’t make sense it’s generally not true.
I mean there’s conditions like command rejection disorder lmao

Why if you are triggered by people with disabilities didn’t they check that their host was not disabled before making their booking? They have to be responsible for their actions. This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

So would you think she's in on it? I just can't fathom this.

Not seeing much empathy here @Etak123 Anything I have written have been observations from the medical team and their understanding of dd. Personally I don't care what you believe but I'm pretty envious of your ability to turn the hyper empathy on and off to suit your agenda. Unfortunately dd doesn't have that "gift" is yours a self diagnosis then?

What are you actually getting out of this thread other than to derail it and mock other posters?

It’s unpleasant and your language is misogynistic

I agree. Maybe it’s one of those where you have to ignore and move on. Hope your dd is ok

Come on luv, you even said you don’t know why so you can’t have it both ways. I apologised for upsetting you and that I didn’t know vomiting was empathetic 🤦‍♀️* I know you can vomit from being distressed and upset but that’s not saying that is caused by empathy.
She could very well be disgusted by obvious disabilities and vomit, like you said you don’t know the reason and actually neither does anyone, not doctors or anyone but we are all entitled to our opinions and I don’t agree anyone vomits because of empathy, it doesn’t make sense and if something doesn’t make sense it’s generally not true.
I mean there’s conditions like command rejection disorder lmao*

You literally just apologised because you didn't know hyper empathy. You only know about how it affects you, not other people. Do you have a problem though? Like split personality?

Quite

I fell down a rabbit hole with this the other day. The reviews etc are on Airbnb so that bit seems right, but the review isn't that extreme. Her other reviews are fine and the customer (?) has good reviews too. She's French. I couldn't find much about her or French groups that might support her.

There have been several self id mentions, but she links them to the client (dunno what word to use) self IDing as a mental health condition. I find it really odd that she's bringing trans issues into it regularly.

I asked a few (nice normal) questions but she doesn't respond to all the stuff she's asked.

As a disabled person I'm half terrified half skeptical.

Because of specific legislation which protects disabled people from having to declare this Because its no ones business quite frankly unless it impacts on you and pushing a doorbell which flashes so she is aware your there isn't an issue surely? Most people have doorbells her just flashes

I detailed it up thread. But basically she's claiming a specialist barrister gave her advice based on precedent that absolutely doesn't exist that would be dependent on a law she is talking about but that doesn't exist even remotely as she is claiming. And her whole campaign centres around a law from a country she's not being sued in. It's all very clearly made up.

The people suing don't WANT to win their case. They know it's frivolous and awful to sue a terminally ill woman for hurting their feelings. They WANT to lose so that a legal precedent is set so "my subjective mental health experience trumps everything" cant be considered a valid legal argument. They've deliberately chosen a situation that is very clear cut to highlight the absurdity of the situation.

Ok that makes slightly more sense. Anyone know who they are?

@Etak123 So you apologised now you're doubling down and saying it doesn't make sense! Some people get so overwhelmed by feelings, sometimes empathy, sometimes other things, that they have a physical response. The most common is anxiety. If your feelings of empathy (or anything) become too much, which is common in those with autism, an anxiety-like attack can ensue. We DO know why this happens. Just because it has never happened to you does not mean it doesn't happen to others.

Also, don't tell someone you are sorry for their or their child's autism. Autistic people do not need your sympathy, it is insulting and ablest to offer it.

@TitsInAbsentia @Novum I would think she is in on it because it would make sense for them to sue someone who is articulate and willing to make TikTok videos about it for publicity.

I'm just guessing though of course. She may not be. I truly hope she is though because very cruel if not.

I can’t see how you’re reading the right review if you think it’s not extreme. Jade explained in a TikTok that the review contains a hundred and something separate points about the presence of ‘disturbing’ disability aids

I’m not sure which is worse. If they really believe these appalling claims, if they are trying it on get money out of a terminally ill person or if they are doing it for their five minutes of fame. Despicable.

Thank you @orbitalcrisis you explained it much better than I can.

It's nothing like that, unless Airbnb edited it. Just about check in and smoking basically. Her response goes into it further.