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Ukraine Invasion: Part 32

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MagicFox · 03/10/2022 14:47

Gosh, that last one filled up quick! Welcome to 32, all πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

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BreadInCaptivity · 09/10/2022 23:57

Indeed. Lovely contrast in that speech of the Ukrainian leadership visiting the front lines and the Russians in a bunker (hell, Putin needs a mile long desk to separate him from his own ministers never mind his soldiers)...

LoveLarry · 10/10/2022 02:19

I see the propagandists are going after general Zaluzhny now

Over a bracelet

MagicFox · 10/10/2022 06:53

@chrisopherjm "Dnipro also being hit by Russian missiles now, authorities and local media report. Russia appears to be pounding Ukraine in several locations this morning including major cities β€” Kyiv, Dnipro, Zaporizhzhia."

@chrisowiki "1/ Is General Sergey Surovikin, Putin's newly-appointed commander of his 'Special Military Operation', being set up as a scapegoat for the failures of the Russia forces in Ukraine? A commentary by the Donbas separatist Alexander Khodakovsky suggests so. A 🧡 and translation..."
https://twitter.com/chrisowiki/status/1579134861839040512?s=46&t=d-UD9p3ODXii
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@faytuks "Moscow will take strong measures in response to the attempt to undermine the Crimean Bridge...The Supreme Commander-in-Chief will make the relevant decisions - member of #Russia's State Duma Defense Committee says" (links to Russian source translatable on google") twitter.com/faytuks/status/1579283844708306946?s=46&t=d-UD9p3ODXi_U6UuF02D6A

@juliadavisnews "Meanwhile on Russian state TV, they're drawing parallels between the Crimean bridge, the warship Moskva and Putin, as Russia's main symbols. They must have forgotten their own lies about Moskva. People are being urged to unite around Putin and march into battle when called." twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1579168584445886464?s=46&t=d-UD9p3ODXi_U6UuF02D6A

@derekjgrossman "Jaishankar in Australia when asked about why India maintains a close defense partnership with Russia: β€œFor multiple decades western countries did not supply weapons to India & saw military dictatorship next to us as a preferred partner.” twitter.com/derekjgrossman/status/1579319301559169024?s=46&t=d-UD9p3ODXi_U6UuF02D6A

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OwlsDance · 10/10/2022 07:42

Explosions in Kyiv this morning. Bastards.

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 07:44

Also reports of blasts in Lviv, Zaporizhzhya, Zhytomyr and Ternopil.

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 07:45

Because of course the obvious response to a bridge being bombed is to kill civilians.

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 07:46

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 07:44

Also reports of blasts in Lviv, Zaporizhzhya, Zhytomyr and Ternopil.

Oh and Mykolaiv.

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 10/10/2022 08:23

Mykolaiv is bombed most days if not every day.

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 10/10/2022 08:25

I have heard this weekend that the Russian troops in Kherson have reformed more tightly and that it is currently difficult.

vera99 · 10/10/2022 08:28

@wichit there is no moral equivalence at all. There is a debate after the war to examine how this all happened but this is not the time. This is a longish tik tok but well worth 7 minutes of your time. This is the digital equivalent of dropping leaflets in the enemy’s trenches and beautifully puts why this is a war at least for the Ukrainians is of good vs evil.

www.tiktok.com/@..jjuulliee/video/7152604904077397290

vera99 · 10/10/2022 08:30

Oops wrong thread but still worth posting here!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/10/2022 08:41

OwlsDance · 10/10/2022 07:42

Explosions in Kyiv this morning. Bastards.

One of my guests has had to go back to Kyiv for a flying visit but her dh has heard from her and she can hear the explosions but it’s not their part of the city.
Will be so glad when she gets back here again.

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 08:42

I do think for those worrying about nuclear weapons the events of this morning show how much scope for escalation there is before they go nuclear.

L1ttledrummergirl · 10/10/2022 08:49

It smacks of Hitlers v2 rockets at the end of the second world war. Desperation so they'll create as much destruction as possible. Putin knows that he is losing

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 09:07

3 missiles against Kharkiv too.

miceonabranch · 10/10/2022 09:08

πŸ˜₯ for those killed, injured and frightened. Predictable behaviour from the Russians. Analyst on Times Radio saying they can't sustain it though as they don't have the weapons.

TokyoSushi · 10/10/2022 09:22

Just popping on to say thanks to all for the updates, it seems to be a terrible morning πŸ˜”

autumn1610 · 10/10/2022 09:25

hearing the news this morning wasn’t a surprise (which is so horrible to say) I was expecting them to retaliate in some way and did think Kiev would be a target, Russia has to show it is taking some action against the bridge explosion so I expect that Ukraine was anticipating this. Totally horrendous still and hearing bloody Putin saying it’s an attack on civilian infrastructure just makes me want to scream, for people who see western media it’s so infuriating. But I suppose he has to deny to the Russian population the fact that he has literally destroyed parts of a country’s infrastructure and civilian population and the fact some believe the words coming out of his mouth is so hard to comprehend

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 09:32

Heard from my friend from Kharkiv this morning (now safely living abroad) and she said family and friends back home had been expecting this. To a degree to see it happening is horrific but they were holding their breath fearing the worst.

Lmp26 · 10/10/2022 09:45

Just wanted to come on here and say thankyou. The past few months this thread has helped me massively as my brother has joined the international legion in ukraine so everyday is a worry! It's nice to read something that isn't full of scaremongering!! Pray the war is over soon for the poor Ukrainians and Mr P gets his comeuppance!!

Igotjelly · 10/10/2022 09:48

Beijing calling for immediate deescalation following Putin’s missile strikes. Reported on CNN.

OwlsDance · 10/10/2022 10:02

UA saying RU launched 75 rockets/missiles thus morning. 41 were taken out by air defences.

Fucking barbarians, the lot of them.

RedToothBrush · 10/10/2022 10:07

The war has become a war for a domestic audience consumption for Russia and for domestic infighting. It is no longer about Ukraine, but PR management and control at home.

The missiles sent today serve no strategic purpose. If anything all they do is deepen Ukrainian resolve and a sense that they have no choice but to fight on.

They satisfy Putin's desire for revenge and give some red meat to the masses of Russians who still support him, but that's it.

These are weapons that could have been targeted at strategic points, but few look to have been particularly aimed at strategic points. There have been a few hits like taking out power in Lviv but nothing that appears noteworthy or is so big the Ukrainians have no choice but to admit to.

This is the only response Russia has at this point. It feels it must do something to keep up appearances but its not meaningful.

It hasn't the capability nor capacity to launch a counter attack. It's army has peaked and has lost momentum whilst Ukraine is still gathering steam.

It will increasingly struggle with basic supplies to its front lines.

The hot air and threats are that. The worst losses are being hidden from view but are increasingly hard to suppress.

The attack on the bridge is being compared to the lost of the Moskva as the biggest losses of face. Remember the official line on the Moskva? Long forgotten with no one bothering to stick to the script anymore.

Weirdly Putin has done a meeting with his governors today and it's not even been mentioned.

Kamil Galeev made the point that escalate to deescalate makes sense in the context of media management for the domestic audience. And that clearly must be the fear now.

The speech by the defence minister of Ukraine fits into that neatly. I note that the US embassy is again encouraging all citizens to leave as soon as they think its safe to do so, today. They are anticipating an escalation in attacks on civilians of some description - not necessarily nukes. And if China is now stepping in, you have to presume there is concerns rising there about Russian attitudes.

I don't think we are at panic stations still. Rising concerns yes.

Note stuff like this

Julia Davis AT juliadavisnews
More genocidal brainstorming in the Russian media: Expert says that destroying all bridges in Ukraine is not feasible. He proposes demolishing the energy infrastructure in time for winter, causing a massive humanitarian crisis. He argues that China and India would not care.

China saying something, is relevant to domestic attitudes... not because it thinks nukes will definitely happen and are unavoidable at this point.

RedToothBrush · 10/10/2022 10:10

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Lukashenko accuses Ukraine of preparing an attack on Belarus

Russia, Belarus to deploy joint regional troops: Lukashenko

RedToothBrush · 10/10/2022 10:14

Marqs AT marqs_
Lukashenko says he ordered to form this group two days ago and is ongoing already. The basis of this group is the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus.

Lukashenko claims "NATO and a number of European countries are considering options for possible aggression against Belarus"

No info on the size of the "group" and if / where they will be deployed after gathered in Belarus, but Lukashenko repeated the false claim that Ukraine is preparing an attack on Belarus so you can guess what that means.

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