Is anyone on here pro-life?

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Just wondering.

The problem is that being ‘pro life’ means being pro baby life in all circumstances including when it means it will cost the mother her life.
eg when women can’t get a termination to start chemo.
eg when a woman has an ectopic pregnancy

It also means that the health incl the MH of the mother is always secondary
eg when a 12yo has to keep the baby from her (adult) rapist to then give birth to said baby, traumatising them all again.

Most of the answers in here from people who are pro life wouldnt cut with ‘proper’ pro lifer in the US. Because they all acknowledge that there ARE situations where they would chose an abortion too.

I believe you meant to say fortunately Mumsnet tends to be pro choice.

I don’t like all the pro life v pro choice stuff. Abortion is necessary for some women in whatever circumstances and that’s all there is to it for me. Regardless of my personal opinion or anyone else’s, I think people should just accept that. Some things just aren’t my business.

Yes, but I make that decision only for me.

Everyone else, choice.

Some women like sex, it isn't just about men's 5 seconds of pleasure, athough if you think sex is about 5 seconds of pleasure maybe that explains it.

Pro life means they think abortion is wrong for everybody in all circumstances and should always be illegal. Life of the foetus before everything else.

It is perfectly possible to be pro choice and know that you personally could never have an abortion.
Pro choice just means that you think abortion is a choice for individuals to make, not something that should be able to be outlawed for everyody.
If you know that you would never ever have an abortion but accept that it is not your place (or the governments) to make that choice for all pregnant women and girls- that is still pro choice.

Pro life as an ideolgy is dangerous.

@ladydimitrescu
In those circumstances a termination is impossible before 12 weeks?

Or anti-abortion or whatever you want to call it

I think I am pro choice. Sometimes though (and this could well be my own wrong perception) because I wouldn't choose to have an abortion myself (except in very specific situations) that is interpreted as largely having a pro life stance. An abortion, for me, would be the last resort. But each woman absolutely must choose for themselves and to be fully supported and cared for.

Those people saying you're pro-life for yourself but pro-choice for others doesn't make sense... if you're pro-choice for others, you're pro-choice, but your personal choice would be to continue with a pregnancy.

Why do you ask?

You still haven't given us your views, OP, or why you're asking.

How do so many posters not actually understand what pro choice means? Some have stated they are pro life then actually gone on to use the word choice and decision in thier answer!

Pro life means NO choice for anyone.

Idiocy is more common than many would like to accept

I absolutely respect the right of any woman to say that she would never have an abortion under any circumstances.

I also absolutely respect the right of any woman to say that she would have an abortion, and to have a safe, legal and non-judgmental route to that abortion.

What I will never accept is that anyone else has rights over any individual woman’s uterus, or the right to override her free choice. No man (and let’s face it, it mostly is men) should be able to decide that a woman may not choose an abortion if she believes it’s right for her, and force her to carry a pregnancy against her will.

‘Pro life’ is a horrible misnomer which is used as a stick to beat women with. We shouldn’t accept it.

I was reading today about underage girls who have been raped being forced to go through pregnancy and birth and it made me realise that this might highlight the sheer number of women being abused who we would otherwise never hear about. I hope this data is being recorded somewhere as it's a medical scandal.

Whoever is making that interpretation is incorrect, simply correct them next time.

No . Pro choice

Yes. I believe that abortion is murder. But you aren't allowed to say that on Mumsnet.

Actually sometimes the pro choice is about pro abortion. I was bullied by a doctor when I was pregnant at 17 as he said I was too young, I was bullied when I went to the Brook for a pregnancy test back in the day when you couldn't buy tests, they said as I had a young baby I should have an abortion.

Then when I was pregnant at 38 and politely turned down the triple test the doctor got very annoyed as it needed to be done quickly as we were running out of time for amnio and then abortion if needed. He got really angry and the midwife had to intervene and tell him to stop and that my Consultant had discussed it with me (calmly I might add) and I wasn't having it.

So I'm not entirely convinced that all pro choice is as kind and supportive as people think.

I think you can get people being unpleasant at both extremes.

Unless it's rape or the baby has a condition that is incompatible with life.

You literally just typed it so how aren’t you allowed?

I mean it’s definitely not murder. But since your post appeared, then it seems you are allowed

And yet you just did! Free speech is great, isn’t it?

So’s free choice.

Pro life as an ideolgy is dangerous

especially when pro life laws are implemented without access to healthcare, social care etc.

Can to define what an abortion is?

Does it include include treatment for an ectopic pregnancy?
does it include carrying on with a pregnancy with a baby with no skull?
does it include refusing life saving medication because if the potential Impact on the baby?

What do you include in an abortion?