So proud to be British right now

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Everything has been amazing , such a great tribute to our Queen
The choristers , the army and the horses
Bloody beautiful

so your argument is the Palace cannot be discriminatory because 8.5% of its employees are from BAME groups in a city where 40.2% of residents identified as belonging to either the Asian, Black, Mixed or Other ethnic group?

Sure, that’s representative 😂

sorry remind me again, what was the problem with the Guardian report describing historical racist hiring practices? Are you using your 8.5% stat to demonstrate how that’s been overcome? Seriously?

Very compelling.

I expect Princess Michael’s brooch was an accident and Harry’s been brainwashed into accusing his family of racism too.

Like I said. It’s probably just a series of unfortunate coincidences 🙄

my point was that the Royal family is inherently racist.

the employment practices of the military are not relevant to that statement.

I’m simply sticking to the point.

No, but actual members of the modern day Royal family are claiming that a family with a strong racist history remains racist.

and Princess Michael is certainly demonstrating racism on a regular basis, as did Prince Philip until he died. They have never apologised for the atrocities committed under colonialism and are still exempt from Equalities legislation, which was my initial
point.

why the need for that exemption?

Can’t really understand comments like this (and there have been many). People complaining about blanket news coverage, as if catch up and the off button didn’t exist. The majority of my interactions since the queen died have not included any reference to her. No-one has forced you to be interested, so why didn’t you just disengage?

Would it have been though?

But it should have. That’s the point.

On the flip side, what do the average people being to the world stage that would showcase Britain ?

No matter your views on today, I am struggling to think of another high profile funeral that would attract so much attention.

Her soft power has resulted in this huge global interest.

For all of us adults - we will never see anything like this again. And it’s highly likely that your children will never see anything like this again. Yes, the ceremony will happen again, but the feeling won’t be the same.

department of health and social care budget is approx £170bn per year

the Royal Family costs the taxpayer around £100m per year - scrapping it would do nothing to improve the health of the nation

@Furries

I'm sure we'll cope

That figure doesn't include things like policing for big events, for example.

And actually £100m per year (plus the odd several million for weddings and funerals) would be a serious shot in the arm, wouldn't it?

And either way, the vulgar displays of wealth we're used to from the RF are tone deaf and insulting when people can't afford to heat their homes or feed their families.

’Average people’ excel in maths science and medical breakthroughs, start and run charitable organisations and help the disadvantaged on a regular basis.

there are many many rentable ‘average people’ out there who dedicate their lives to improving things for others with little to no recognition. And they definitely aren’t doing it on a billionaires salary.

I think that work showcases Britain much better than a bunch of rich white folk with questionable values raking in massive salaries.

The thing is you could say that about so many things. We’d never seen anything like Diana before. Many of us likely won’t see the death of another King after Charles shuffles off in the not too distant future.

but you can guarantee that won’t stop the mass social hysteria and pissing money away. Only next time it won’t be cos of ‘70 years’ it’ll be cos he’s a penis-holder and we’ll never see a king die again in our lifetimes.

the reasoning really doesn’t matter. It’s hysteria

your post just proves that most people don’t understand the difference between millions and billions

I struggle to understand why she can’t pay for her funeral if she wants such a massive display. Didn’t we just pay for her jubilee too?

Next up is Charles coronation and presumably again tax payers must pay the bill.

I don’t understand this proud to be British because we can put on a grand display like this and the whole world is watching.

And where is the Daily Mail usually so up in arms every time the tax payers must foot the bill of a refugee family being pulled from the channel?

I see this thread has predictable descended into nastiness.

Fascinating. Filled me with shame and made me realise I loathe my own country. But... we are all different. And I don't think it's wrong for anyone to feel differently. I just hated it all so much and that took me by surprise.

Too busy being proud.

@changingstages that feels so sad to loath your country. There are so many things to be proud of other than this. Science, industry & many more.

But what has that "soft power" got us? nothing at all.

Will it even continue under kc3 ?

Sure its a spectacle & it needed to happen but there is more to a country than a funeral, the UK is in decline, none of what has happened during the last 10 days, changes that rather sad fact.

Nope, the UK is losing its worlds status of a science super power now we have left the EU, we invest 1/10th of what Germany does in catalyst science start-ups, excluded from all 3 major eu science programs.

Industry? exports falling fast, trade barriers between uk and biggest export market, who owns what little is left of UK car industry?

... Many more? ... They'll be specific niche sectors but no there isn't many more... but we do punch above our weight in sport :)

Would you say the state of the NHS, social care, education, rail, roads & housing is all european class let alone world class?

I'd argue that being concerned about the state of the UK and wanting it to improve is far more "patriotic" than burying your head in the sand and singing "God Save the King"

It IS sad. I agree. And I wish I could feel prouder of the country but we are not doing well.

@Alexandra2001 great point. Because of the reluctance of the mainstream media to discuss Brexit so many folk really don't appreciate the effect it has had on many aspects of everyday life.

But yesterday’s magnificent pageantry doesn’t showcase Britain in a good way, though. Not necessarily a bad way but definitely not a good way. What exactly did it showcase? That we can put on a good show? What’s the greater good of that?