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I predict a massive backlash to all this mourning once the funeral is over

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FayeGovan · 15/09/2022 22:18

So far the media is all about how we are grieving as a nation and no other voices are tolerated.

Its a pretence that will come back with a vengeance.

The country hasn't been in such a bad way for a long long time and millions have been spent on mourning someone many of us had no interest in.

Its wearing thin and we aren't at Monday yet....

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FickleFins · 16/09/2022 07:30

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purfectpuss · 16/09/2022 07:31

Nobody has told the country to come to a standstill- if shops and other venues close that is on their heads. It's simply been declared a bank holiday- on which shops and entertainment venues usually open.

lemmein · 16/09/2022 07:31

Prescottdanni123 · 16/09/2022 04:09

@Delectable

Yep, the 96 year old woman who was standing up unaided, greeting our new priminister 2 days before her death didn't work hard for her country at all. 🙄

If you can do your job till the grand old age of 96 it's probably fair to say your job was never that difficult!

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/09/2022 07:32

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Why do you think he didn't? They both cheated on each other, so clearly there were more than 3 people in the marriage. Marriages end, relationships fail. It's life. He's happy with Camilla and has been for years.

Happyhapoydog · 16/09/2022 07:34

Just look away, let. It’s just a few more days. Got for a nice walk or something, watch Netflix, go to the cinema, enjoy your day off at the beach.
it’ll be done soon.

FickleFins · 16/09/2022 07:34

lemmein · 16/09/2022 07:31

If you can do your job till the grand old age of 96 it's probably fair to say your job was never that difficult!

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Cheap comment, how very ignorant you must be 🤔.

MarshaBradyo · 16/09/2022 07:35

NashvilleQueen · 16/09/2022 07:03

Counterpoint: I think it will do more to increase support for the monarchy and the stability it brings than anything else has in recent years.

My prediction is every bit as valid as yours.

I think you have a point, just looking at reaction irl for a start

youlooklikeapenis · 16/09/2022 07:37

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Porcupineintherough · 16/09/2022 07:37

There won't be a backlash. The Royal Family make the people of the UK feel absolutely marvellous about themselves regardless of how badly the country's been run. They are another form of opium for the masses.

lemmein · 16/09/2022 07:39

Cheap comment, how very ignorant you must be

How many people do you know that could do their jobs till 96? Most people are knackered by the time they hit retirement!

Let's not pretend the royals are super-human; she could do it because she had a privileged life, with the very best health-care and staff that catered to her every need.

'Hard work'? Yeah ok Hmm

DreamingofNuneaton · 16/09/2022 07:41

I just think of the massive collective waste of time of those people who are queuing up. Time that could have been used for picking up litter or other volunteering.
A fund could have been set up for people to make donations to the queen’s favourite charities rather than spending it on flowers that are going to rot and need to be cleared up.
The Queen could have said she didn’t want to lie in state- though I suppose a week was needed to plan the funeral. If it had happened in covid they wouldn’t have been able to have people queuing up. All this ceremony is in place to maintain popularity in the monarchy. Prince Andrew’s public role in it makes me feel nauseous.

MargaretThursday · 16/09/2022 07:41

I suppose this is different from predicting civil unrest which someone/some people have been doing since at least 2020.

Figgygal · 16/09/2022 07:45

Nope can't see it
It's not the queen's funeral at a cost of 5p per household which has got us to where we are if people need to backlash do it at the voting box next election

The RF are an easy target for those angry at cost of living etc

TheLadyofShalott1 · 16/09/2022 07:45

StellaGibson2022 · 16/09/2022 00:58

But do you honestly trust our establishment at the moment that democracy is in place?

It certainly doesn’t feel that way looking at the behaviours displayed by elected officials over the past god knows how long. We are in a sprint to the bottom and have been for years - no fault of the Royal Family. Eroding of pay, workers rights, massive gaps between the poor/working poor and those in big business, slowly drawing out the change in healthcare, education, safety on the streets etc etc.

It’s all well and good calling for the abolishment of the monarchy but let’s face it - they cost relatively little, have very little to no impact on our lives as citizens and any money saved would not be seen by anyone as it wouldn’t end up in public services (remember we are living in a time where the state is getting smaller - less public service)

For the pennies each of us pay toward them I truly believe that them being patrons of societies and groups is worth it to promote public knowledge of issues.

Im not a royalist by the way but calling ‘democracy’ feels like a load of shit at the moment. Possibly it’s just me feeling that way though.

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It isn't just you @StellaGibson2022.

Porcupineintherough · 16/09/2022 07:45

lemmein · 16/09/2022 07:39

Cheap comment, how very ignorant you must be

How many people do you know that could do their jobs till 96? Most people are knackered by the time they hit retirement!

Let's not pretend the royals are super-human; she could do it because she had a privileged life, with the very best health-care and staff that catered to her every need.

'Hard work'? Yeah ok Hmm

There's no way being Queen wasn't a hard job if you take it seriously and there's little doubt the Queen Elizabeth did that. Its also true that she only managed to do it because she had an awful lot of scaffolding in the background- a big staff to take all the weight of daily living from her, to help with research, to brief her to sort things out. But that's not unreasonable and it doesn't take away from the amount of personal effort she put in.

DelilahBucket · 16/09/2022 07:47

How many small businesses are benefitting from the situation? London hotels at 95% capacity, visitors to the city spending in shops/cafes/restaurants/airports/train fares etc. I had a Jubilee range for sale and had kept the remaining items available to buy after the event was over. I've sold loads this week, to the UK, USA and Canada. I needed those sales right now.

Prescottdanni123 · 16/09/2022 07:50

@lemmein

You seriously think being a queen is an easy job? I wouldn't accept the offer of a throne even if I was offered all of the diamond mines in the world as payment.

One of the care takers at the school I work in is 85. That is not an easy job by any means but he still manages to do it.

gatehouseoffleet · 16/09/2022 07:53

A580Hojas · 15/09/2022 22:35

I don't think so tbh. The cost of living crisis is an entirely separate issue and if we didn't have a monarchy we'd still have the crisis. I honestly believe most people have the intelligence to understand this.

Yes we would, but we don't need to make it worse by cancelling events which means people suffer a financial loss. Nobody should be losing money because the Queen died, it's ludicrous. Yes there will be a few things directly affected - that can't be helped, but we didn't need what is effectively another nationwide lockdown.

And that's before the issues of funerals or medical appointments being cancelled. There is zero need and zero justification.

The funeral should have been on a Sunday to minimise disruption and financial loss.

gatehouseoffleet · 16/09/2022 07:55

DelilahBucket · 16/09/2022 07:47

How many small businesses are benefitting from the situation? London hotels at 95% capacity, visitors to the city spending in shops/cafes/restaurants/airports/train fares etc. I had a Jubilee range for sale and had kept the remaining items available to buy after the event was over. I've sold loads this week, to the UK, USA and Canada. I needed those sales right now.

Well if they're open. But most appear to be closing on Monday whether or not they want to, so that will need to be balanced against any extra sales of Jubilee mugs.

And that's a drop in the ocean compared with the losses for the wider population.

Soontobe60 · 16/09/2022 07:58

Fortboyard · 15/09/2022 23:34

Are you actually genuinely saying you’d rather have a hereditary monarch over democracy??? You’d rather some unelected, unchecked individual made all the decisions and all the laws, and for no other person to have any say, power or rights?
We have been incredibly lucky to have the decent and dutiful Queen Elizabeth for so long. There’s no guarantee of the kind of monarch you could get.
How would you be feeling right now if we had a King Andrew on the throne rather than King Charles? Your king could have recently paid off an underaged minor he (allegedly) engaged in sexual activity in the home of (subsequently) convicted repeat sex offenders. Yes, soooo much better than democracy 🙄

Eh? But we DO live in a democracy, or at least I thought we did every time I get to vote on who I want to be in government. Our monarchs don’t make decisions, don’t wield any real power or control.

waffless · 16/09/2022 07:58

Most people would see it as a time to reflect and come together.

Soontobe60 · 16/09/2022 07:59

gatehouseoffleet · 16/09/2022 07:53

Yes we would, but we don't need to make it worse by cancelling events which means people suffer a financial loss. Nobody should be losing money because the Queen died, it's ludicrous. Yes there will be a few things directly affected - that can't be helped, but we didn't need what is effectively another nationwide lockdown.

And that's before the issues of funerals or medical appointments being cancelled. There is zero need and zero justification.

The funeral should have been on a Sunday to minimise disruption and financial loss.

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Who’s losing out financially? My pay was due on Monday - it’s dropped into my bank today.

Soontobe60 · 16/09/2022 08:01

DreamingofNuneaton · 16/09/2022 07:41

I just think of the massive collective waste of time of those people who are queuing up. Time that could have been used for picking up litter or other volunteering.
A fund could have been set up for people to make donations to the queen’s favourite charities rather than spending it on flowers that are going to rot and need to be cleared up.
The Queen could have said she didn’t want to lie in state- though I suppose a week was needed to plan the funeral. If it had happened in covid they wouldn’t have been able to have people queuing up. All this ceremony is in place to maintain popularity in the monarchy. Prince Andrew’s public role in it makes me feel nauseous.

He hasn’t got a ‘Public’ role. You do know she’s his mother? Are you saying that he shouldn’t be allowed to be present?

vera99 · 16/09/2022 08:04

Well said. The high point of peak monarchy has now long passed. Charles will never be as popular as his mother ever. I was at a small community music festival in Forest Hill on the Saturday after the death with a wide range of young families, children and a few oldies. No announcements were made by the many bands that played during the day (mostly folky/Irish/ageing covers type music) everybody had a great time and there were no long faces indeed the opposite. I've twice visited the centre to look at the Palace, "The Queue" and whilst there are a few serious faces around most are tourists or just gawpers like ourselves that have come to watch the 'circus'. Indeed in my own area Welling there are no flags in gardens, pictures in windows and very few small businesses which sort of surprised me as it is a strong, white-collar working-class sort of area that went overboard for VE day, Covid clapping and the Jubilee.

ImAvingOops · 16/09/2022 08:07

Mainstream media has basically been propaganda this week - 'nations grandmother, we're all desperately grieving'

Id say the RF and govt are thanking God that Andrew isn't the heir - that would indeed have been a complete shit show and untenable. But Charles was right about the environment so might be a positive influence on a govt who gives no shits about anything other than their own financial well-being. I don't think the country will rebel just yet.

Agree with pp that that all the pomp and ceremony is a sticking plaster and being used to bolster national identity.

It does need to stop though. The constant fawning news and the complete shutdown of govt - I want the people being paid to to be the country, to actually be getting on with it and telling us what they are going to do about the horrific winter that's coming!