I predict a massive backlash to all this mourning once the funeral is over

[FayeGovan]

So far the media is all about how we are grieving as a nation and no other voices are tolerated.

Its a pretence that will come back with a vengeance.

The country hasn't been in such a bad way for a long long time and millions have been spent on mourning someone many of us had no interest in.

Its wearing thin and we aren't at Monday yet....

This point about democracy exposes the widespread lack of understanding about how the monarchy functions in modern Britain.

The Queen had very little actual power. The weekly meetings, her asking someone to form a government etc are all a facade and indicative of her soft power. What the monarchy represents however is an apolitical check and balance on the potential excesses of politicians and that is a good thing.

Also many stable democracies across the world, notably in Northern Europe, have a monarchy. We are not alone in that. I can see a strong case for modernisation and even if the will of the people demands it the abolition. But that shouldn't be understood to make our political system 'more' democratic because it has every chance of making it less so.

I just think of the massive collective waste of time of those people who are queuing up. Time that could have been used for picking up litter or other volunteering.

You could be doing that instead of mumsnetting. As could I. But I'm not. Nor am I judging how other people spend their time.

One of the richest families in the world passes wealth from generation to generation tax-free whilst we pay most of the bills and shelters a nonce from interrogation from the FBI. Hmm

Are the business that are closing doing it on command of the RF or government or have they made the decision themselves?

Loads of people are losing out financially is to closures on Monday. All businesses/shops have enormous pressure on them to close even though retail is is free fall after years of abysmal “trading” conditions. The last thing any small (or even large) retailer needs right now is the loss of a day’s trading. If you think that’s insignificant then take a look at
John Lewis’ recent figures. That’s a national institution which employs thousands around the country yet it’s struggling like the vast majority of retailers.
A million times worse than that is the impact the Monday closures/cancellations will have on healthcare (operations, GP etc) and courts which are beyond breaking point.
We could have honoured a decent monarch with a funeral on a Sunday without anything like as much impact.

There is a lot of competitive closing with shops and virtual signalling emails being sent. John Lewis will suffer in the future, it's dropped it's never knowingly undersold and annoyed a lot of its core customers with its recent Partnership credit card debacle

I just think of the massive collective waste of time of those people who are queuing up. Time that could have been used for picking up litter or other volunteering.

Just out of interest, will you be spending 10 hours volunteering or litter picking over this long weekend, instead of queuing to see the Queen or watching the funeral?

Businesses are not closing of their own accord, the media and the masses make that decision for them. If they choose to open they risk a nasty social media backlash from some very vocal people who feel strongly that the world should stop turning right now.

I really liked the Queen but I think she could be the end of the monarchy. Charles is no king and he's unpopular with the people I've spoken to over the last few days.

I think his reign will be damaging to the monarchy. Particularly because he doesn't seem to be able to pick up on the mood of the country the way his mother did.

The media are also going for him with the redundancies headlines, the inheritance tax 'dodge', the rage over the pen etc. It'll probably cause some dislike towards him.

I get why people would be annoyed, but she was a remarkable lady, who worked til the day she died and she does need a special send off.

We've all been well aware of the cost of living crisis, even the Ukraine war, and for many months have heard a lot of both issues, as well as may other important ones. I might be more concerned about the cost of living crisis, but others are deeply upset about the Queen's passing and all the coverage makes me realise that this world isn't all about me, it's about all of us and we all have our own things to deal with that are hard.

On Nick Ferrari LBC caller after caller ringing in about medical appointments cancelled that are in great pain and doctors saying that in normal circumstances some staff have missed their own family funerals as they have to do their jobs and saying why this couldn't have been done on a Sunday.

There is an absolute ton of virtue signalling and my email inbox is full of businesses telling me how “deeply saddened” they are.
what about the people who are going to be facing not only a cost of living crisis but also redundancy this winter? The staff of Clarence House for example have been notified of their likely redundancy despite the country being in “national mourning”. What a shit show for them?!

I agree it’s not cultural to us to cause a fuss

even the French are more passive than they were

mostly because even if life is hard it’s not desperate for a large enough group of people to create that anger that is needed

and we have seen the guilt ridden hand wringing left mc try to wind up the wc to riot for them while they cheer on the sidelines for years people have wised up that

*This point about democracy exposes the widespread lack of understanding about how the monarchy functions in modern Britain.

The Queen had very little actual power. The weekly meetings, her asking someone to form a government etc are all a facade and indicative of her soft power. What the monarchy represents however is an apolitical check and balance on the potential excesses of politicians and that is a good thing.

Also many stable democracies across the world, notably in Northern Europe, have a monarchy. We are not alone in that. I can see a strong case for modernisation and even if the will of the people demands it the abolition. But that shouldn't be understood to make our political system 'more' democratic because it has every chance of making it less so.*

One of the few posters who actually know what they are talking about. 👏

I feel sorry for the guards men who are just stood there around the coffin for hours, not being able to move, one passed out the other day.

Starmtn77 · Today 01:38
Is it true that people really believe the royal family is descended from Mary from the Bible? Is this why it was it is their birthright to be titled?

Where on earth did you get this idea from? It's the most ridiculous thing I've read on many threads with many odd opinions

Am I the only one imagining OP with a banner saying 'Down with this kind of thing! mourning!'
There's someone somewhere on MN trying to wish a riot into existence, maybe you could get together.

The Timing of her death serves to be rather fortunate for the government. Their energy plan and the death of a monarch means that it hasn’t received the criticism is should have and currently the public are blindsided. Capping to £2500 per annum still does not help most of the people.

You are spot on . And the worse is yet to come . People will have no money for basics comes winter and the country is spending billions on this theatre! the head of state is no apt to be one , just got billionaire overnight and paid and will pay nil tax , his substitute should be in jail but was saved by the queen we supposedly should be mourning ( it’s a pity nobody seem to think about the girls he abused ) .
Anyway the U.K. has never been in such bad conditions and it pains me that people don’t take the street to complaint about increases and nhs cuts that are million thousands but they are happy and merry to waste days waiting to see a closed casket !!
but hey ho god save the king … 🙄

@Andromachehadabadday

The total cost in lost revenue to the UK is predicted at 4-7 billion for the Queen passing and king put in place

I am not just on about the funeral costs.

Their biggest problem is indifference. If Charles and Camilla do a state visit to sparse crowds somewhere in the world (or worse attract considerable protests) or William and Kate do a tone-deaf visit to a black nation as they did recently then questions will be increasingly asked what is the point?

I think there will be too.

Theres been no other voice or opinion allowed. ( anti monarchists arrested fgs)

Bring it on is all l can say. The country is collapsing and this charade keeps going.

Time for a change.

This. All this nonsense talk about the hard work the Royals supposedly do. Unbelievable!

@Andromachehadabadday

I think you will find it is quite possible.

"However, the monarch’s death could cost the UK economy billions of pounds thanks to factors like funeral expenses, King Charles III’s coronation and bank holidays.
Earlier this week, the Economic Times reported that the Queen’s passing may cost the nation a staggering £6 billion."

Aren't they changing every 20 minutes? Do you know their work pattern? Does one soldier do his 20 minutes and then have 20 off and then go back for 20 more, all through the day and night?