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Prince Edward

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Turefu · 14/09/2022 07:29

There’re threads about Charles, Andrew and Anne, but none about Edward. Why is that? He was in his older siblings shadow, no heir like Charles, no Olimpian like Anne and no dashing was hero like Andrew. Seen as a joke with his tv programs failure. Yet he came up as the most stable out of Queen’s children. The only one, who manage to create happy marriage, stayed away from
scandals, he did his service without holding grunge against his lower royal position. I like his wife Sophie too. I think they both deserve more credit that is given to them.

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ancientgran · 14/09/2022 17:11

x2boys · 14/09/2022 13:03

That doesn't surprise me ,but that's not how it was portrayed in the media .

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I don't understand how that would work. Surely just being on one of the ships was dangerous and unless his helicopter had an amazing range he must have landed on a ship. Several British ships were hit, can't remember exactly but I bet Simon Weston can.

I'd honestly be interested if anyone can explain.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 17:14

@Dinoteeth Most family farners have diversified. Fram shops selling their produce, farm b and bs. Very few family farms make their money just from farming.
And no farmers do not have to do the "job" the Head of State does obviously. Neither did Charles have to be out at the crack of dawn milking cows before opening the farm shop for customers.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 17:27

It is beyond ludicrous to compare the responsibilities that Charles has just taken on, with the undoubted turmoil of handing over a family farm on the farmer's death.

I'm sure Charles would rather be up at 5am milking cows than catching yet another flight to yet another meeting designed to ensure the inclusion of all parts of the UK, and future stability of the realm.

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antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 17:29

@ajandjjmum The responsibilities of a family farm are far greater. If it fails you and your family are out of a home and a job. If you fail to look after the animals they can die and you will be prosecuted.
Charles has a lot of staff to help and a pretty enormous safety net.

Jenn3112 · 14/09/2022 17:48

I met Edward at a reception at Buckingham Palace many years ago when I was about 21. I nearly fell over a dog right in front of him and then said DofE was a waste of time before realising that was obviously a fairly bad thing to say and clarifying that it was a very good thing to do and worthwhile but my sixth form had run it badly and pressurised people into doing it which really undermined the whole thing. He was very nice about it.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 17:50

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 17:29

@ajandjjmum The responsibilities of a family farm are far greater. If it fails you and your family are out of a home and a job. If you fail to look after the animals they can die and you will be prosecuted.
Charles has a lot of staff to help and a pretty enormous safety net.

I used the word 'undoubtedly' as I totally appreciate that the responsibility in maintaining a family business is great.

However, it cannot be compared to the responsibility of ensuring the stability of country.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 14/09/2022 18:13

But the RF have no power and he could therefore surely be replaced by a stuffed replica surely?

Dinoteeth · 14/09/2022 18:55

@antelopevalley while I'll buy into the logic the animals still need looked after, I'm quite sure the farm shop could either close or be maned by staff / friends for a few days to give the bereaved a chance to get their head together.

Your aren't honestly trying telling me farmers do everything themselves without any staff or outside help. And would be behind the counter facing customers less than 36 hours of their parent dying.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 19:08

AuxArmesCitoyens · 14/09/2022 18:13

But the RF have no power and he could therefore surely be replaced by a stuffed replica surely?

Have you heard of soft power?

AuxArmesCitoyens · 14/09/2022 19:21

Yes. Not sure Chas will be a great exponent of it. Or King Andy had Chas been a girl, or childless.

RedToothBrush · 14/09/2022 19:25

Turefu · 14/09/2022 07:29

There’re threads about Charles, Andrew and Anne, but none about Edward. Why is that? He was in his older siblings shadow, no heir like Charles, no Olimpian like Anne and no dashing was hero like Andrew. Seen as a joke with his tv programs failure. Yet he came up as the most stable out of Queen’s children. The only one, who manage to create happy marriage, stayed away from
scandals, he did his service without holding grunge against his lower royal position. I like his wife Sophie too. I think they both deserve more credit that is given to them.

He hasn't got a thread cos he's boring.

Boring is the ideal for the Royal Family. Sadly the others didn't get the memo.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:26

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 19:08

Have you heard of soft power?

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That is going well with the ex-colonies. Two said they are removing the royal family as head of state during Kate and Williams's tour. On the death of the Queen more have announced they are going.
It is not the 1950s anymore. Some right-wingers like Trump value having dinner with the Royal Family, but they no longer have the impact they once had.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:32

@Dinoteeth My family have a traditional family farm. Yes they do everything themselves apart from the vet and external people e.g. collecting the milk. It is the larger farms that have staff. They have a small farm shop and a caravan they use as a holiday place as well as livestock, selling turf and some crops. And a lake where they sell fish permits.
Of course, they can close everything except feeding and milking the cows. But they lose money. When the grandfather - my father-in-law was in hospital - farmer friends rallied around for a few days to help out with the animals. Other family helped out keeping everything else open and visiting him in hospital.

Family businesses who are not big enough to employ staff are hard work. The Royal Family have a lot of staff to help out and could do things differently if they wanted to. The tour of the kingdom is a PR move, it is not physically necessary.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 19:38

For goodness sake @antelopevalley , I am sorry for your family's loss, but please stop saying that the loss of your FIL is comparable to the loss of the Queen in the respective 'family businesses'. That's ridiculous. My husband and I ran our family business for over 30 years, so I'm speaking from personal experience.

With regard to the Commonwealth - Charles said at the last meeting the members were free to leave if they wished, and we'd part as friends. We've moved on from the days of the Empire!

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/09/2022 19:43

I'm sure Charles would rather be up at 5am milking cows than catching yet another flight to yet another meeting designed to ensure the inclusion of all parts of the UK, and future stability of the realm

Of course he would . . . 🙄- he can't even dress himself without the assistance of two valets.

caringcarer · 14/09/2022 19:44

@lookthisway and @nachoavocado Prince Edward and Sophie Wessex live at Bagshot Park. A huge estate. I think Prince Edward and Sophie Wessex will be one the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh soon. They both do a lot for DofE.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:45

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 19:38

For goodness sake @antelopevalley , I am sorry for your family's loss, but please stop saying that the loss of your FIL is comparable to the loss of the Queen in the respective 'family businesses'. That's ridiculous. My husband and I ran our family business for over 30 years, so I'm speaking from personal experience.

With regard to the Commonwealth - Charles said at the last meeting the members were free to leave if they wished, and we'd part as friends. We've moved on from the days of the Empire!

It is worse for my families business. We do not have the staff and support net the Royal Family has.

What choice did Charles have? He is not a stupid man. He knows they will leave if they want to, so PR wise it makes much more sense to be gracious.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 19:46

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/09/2022 19:43

I'm sure Charles would rather be up at 5am milking cows than catching yet another flight to yet another meeting designed to ensure the inclusion of all parts of the UK, and future stability of the realm

Of course he would . . . 🙄- he can't even dress himself without the assistance of two valets.

That is ridiculous! If it's based on the putting the toothpaste on his toothbrush story - that happened about 300 years ago, when he had a broken arm.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:47

Emotionalsupportviper · 14/09/2022 19:43

I'm sure Charles would rather be up at 5am milking cows than catching yet another flight to yet another meeting designed to ensure the inclusion of all parts of the UK, and future stability of the realm

Of course he would . . . 🙄- he can't even dress himself without the assistance of two valets.

He is not fit enough to do the physical hard work required. And he would not want to.

pompomdaisy · 14/09/2022 19:49

Andrew isn't a dashing war hero. He's a nonce!

MothsAndWaspsAreUsefulPollinators · 14/09/2022 19:49

I agree with OP. Edward is one of my favourites, as much as I have favourite royals. Sophie and Lady Louise seem very sensible and down-to-earth and competent, and keeping Viscount Severn out of the public eye while a child is reasonable. I do hope that he is given the Duke of Edinburgh title and more obvious credit and prominence now. He's earned it.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:54

@ajandjjmum Charles has three valets who work shifts. He never dresses or undresses himself. He is not a man who does any physical hard work at all.

Dinoteeth · 14/09/2022 20:08

He might have people who look after him but he (and Ann) must be physically and emotionally exhausted and they haven't even got to the actual funeral yet.

notimagain · 14/09/2022 20:22

x2boys · 14/09/2022 13:03

That doesn't surprise me ,but that's not how it was portrayed in the media .

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Just from the get go and before I get started let me make clear I really don't like Prince Andrew ( had one fleeting encounter with him decades ago wasn't impressed, and that was well before the Epstein revelations) but anybody who served on the task force in 82 earned their South Atlantic Medal.

When PA wasn't airborne in his helicopter he was sat on board a ship, alongside a few other people, that was the biggest highest value target the RN had down there, the one vessel that the Argentinians were really desperate to sink.

Flying a helicopter off ships decks in the South Atlantic winter was fraught with dangers, difficulties and was potentially fatal.....FWIW the biggest single loss the SAS suffered in the conflict was due to a helicopter accident during a transit flight and was due to either bad weather or a birdstrike, not due to enemy action.

I'd agree he wasn't a dashing war hero, I reiterate I really don't like the man, but quite how anybody can think he was kept away from dangerous situations during the Falklands conflict is beyond me.

SleepingAgent · 14/09/2022 20:22

Cheekymaw · 14/09/2022 12:06

Andrew may have been sold as a Falkland's war hero and it was indeed put out that he was on the frontline but seriously?
If you were stupid enough to believe that a the time and even now , you must be very stupid !!!
My FIL was fairly senior on the frontline at the Falklands and Andrew was miles away from the action. He was something like second or third in line to the throne at that point. You honestly think he would be sent to the front ?
So Andrew is just a sleazy old man who was never a war hero.

Absolutely. I thought it would be obvious there would be ZERO chance of Andrew, at the time close to the line of succession, ever being allowed into a front line war zone if there was any chance of being killed/seriously injured.

It would be idiotic to think he was actually risking life and limb in defence of the Falklands.

(I'm not saying he wasn't there, just he wasn't going to be in the line of fire)