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Prince Edward

231 replies

Turefu · 14/09/2022 07:29

There’re threads about Charles, Andrew and Anne, but none about Edward. Why is that? He was in his older siblings shadow, no heir like Charles, no Olimpian like Anne and no dashing was hero like Andrew. Seen as a joke with his tv programs failure. Yet he came up as the most stable out of Queen’s children. The only one, who manage to create happy marriage, stayed away from
scandals, he did his service without holding grunge against his lower royal position. I like his wife Sophie too. I think they both deserve more credit that is given to them.

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viques · 14/09/2022 12:18

ancientgran · 14/09/2022 10:02

But Anne does seem to get criticism for wearing military uniform and she didn't do 4 minutes in any of the services.

I'm not criticising her by the way, she seems to do alot but does seem a double standard. Of course I might have missed criticism of her.

Nor did Charles do any actual military service, their military roles/ ranks are as symbolic figureheads . Andrew was about to be granted the title of Admiral as a 60 th birthday present BE ( before Epstein). Apparently he had already been measured up for the outfit…….

Spanielsarepainless · 14/09/2022 12:19

I hope KC3 makes Edward Duke of Edinburgh. He already oversees the Award scheme.

altmember · 14/09/2022 12:21

PAFMO · 14/09/2022 08:37

I was surprised to see the Kents and Gloucesters at the Jubilee. They're the Queen's generation so really, if we want rid, we should be talking about their children in comparison- and they ARE all pretty much removed from public life.
The Duke of Kent has always been very hardworking though- as has the Duchess of Gloucester.

Yes, but their current/future equivalents are Anne's, Andrew's and Edward's kids - Zara, Eugine, Beatrice etc. That's why Charlie doesn't want them as working Royals, because the tree spreads out with each generation, and needs pruning to keep it in check.

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Phos · 14/09/2022 12:31

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/09/2022 12:15

I'm not meaning Prince Michael of Kent and his wife. They are of course, awful.

I feel sorry for the Duke and Duchess of Kent as so many people get them confused with Prince and Princess Michael of Kent!

And just to add to the confusion, the Duke of Kent is also Prince Edward.

ancientgran · 14/09/2022 12:31

AryaStarkWolf · 14/09/2022 11:36

no dashing was hero like Andrew

Not sure this is what everyone thinks of when they think about Andrew 😂

People change, some who have a troubled life when younger go on to do great things, some peak early and then decline. Some of it with him was timing, he didn't know there was going to be the Falklands War when he joined up but there was and he survived and came back to a heroes welcome. I suppose he sort of represented the young people out there risking their lives for people who didn't have a family member of friend fighting.

Charles also did his time in the navy but it was peacetime so he wasn't given a heroes welcome. Timing is everything.

VenusClapTrap · 14/09/2022 12:32

I will never understand why some people think a Royal being friendly and relaxed at an event they are attending as part of their job is noteworthy. Are your expectations really so low?

Yes. Because experience of dealing with Andrew doing his job (when he still had one) was quite the opposite. I don’t know about the others.

ancientgran · 14/09/2022 12:34

viques · 14/09/2022 12:18

Nor did Charles do any actual military service, their military roles/ ranks are as symbolic figureheads . Andrew was about to be granted the title of Admiral as a 60 th birthday present BE ( before Epstein). Apparently he had already been measured up for the outfit…….

Charles served in the Royal Navy. From wikipedia (although I am old enough to remember it)

Charles served in the Royal Air Force and, following in the footsteps of his father, grandfather and two of his great-grandfathers, in the Royal Navy. During his second year at Cambridge, he requested and received Royal Air Force training, learning to fly the Chipmunk aircraft with Cambridge University Air Squadron. On 8 March 1971, he flew himself to the Royal Air Force College Cranwell to train as a jet pilot.[49][50] After the passing-out parade that September, he embarked on a naval career and enrolled in a six-week course at the Royal Naval College Dartmouth. He then served on the guided-missile destroyer HMS Norfolk (1971–1972) and the frigates HMS Minerva (1972–1973) and HMS Jupiter (1974). In 1974, he qualified as a helicopter pilot at RNAS Yeovilton, and then joined 845 Naval Air Squadron, operating from HMS Hermes.[51] He gave up flying after crash-landing a BAe 146 in Islay in 1994, for which the crew was found negligent by a board of inquiry.[52][53]
On 9 February 1976, Charles took command of the coastal minehunter HMS Bronington for his last ten months of active service in the navy

Antarcticant · 14/09/2022 12:36

VenusClapTrap · 14/09/2022 12:32

I will never understand why some people think a Royal being friendly and relaxed at an event they are attending as part of their job is noteworthy. Are your expectations really so low?

Yes. Because experience of dealing with Andrew doing his job (when he still had one) was quite the opposite. I don’t know about the others.

Yes - anyone who is customer-facing in their job is expected to be friendly.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:36

VenusClapTrap · 14/09/2022 12:32

I will never understand why some people think a Royal being friendly and relaxed at an event they are attending as part of their job is noteworthy. Are your expectations really so low?

Yes. Because experience of dealing with Andrew doing his job (when he still had one) was quite the opposite. I don’t know about the others.

Fair point. Some of them do not meet the bare minimum requirements.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 14/09/2022 12:39

It takes more than having run a failed business to run a proper charity. Why not get an actual expert in, and pay them to do a proper job?

ancientgran · 14/09/2022 12:39

Antarcticant · 14/09/2022 12:36

Yes - anyone who is customer-facing in their job is expected to be friendly.

I wish they all were. I had to go to hospital today and the receptionist was particularly helpful and I did appreciate it.

x2boys · 14/09/2022 13:03

LakieLady · 14/09/2022 11:16

My XH was in the RN, and served in the Falklands. He always maintained that Andrew was kept well out of the way of any dangerous situations.

That doesn't surprise me ,but that's not how it was portrayed in the media .

viques · 14/09/2022 13:10

ancientgran · 14/09/2022 12:34

Charles served in the Royal Navy. From wikipedia (although I am old enough to remember it)

Charles served in the Royal Air Force and, following in the footsteps of his father, grandfather and two of his great-grandfathers, in the Royal Navy. During his second year at Cambridge, he requested and received Royal Air Force training, learning to fly the Chipmunk aircraft with Cambridge University Air Squadron. On 8 March 1971, he flew himself to the Royal Air Force College Cranwell to train as a jet pilot.[49][50] After the passing-out parade that September, he embarked on a naval career and enrolled in a six-week course at the Royal Naval College Dartmouth. He then served on the guided-missile destroyer HMS Norfolk (1971–1972) and the frigates HMS Minerva (1972–1973) and HMS Jupiter (1974). In 1974, he qualified as a helicopter pilot at RNAS Yeovilton, and then joined 845 Naval Air Squadron, operating from HMS Hermes.[51] He gave up flying after crash-landing a BAe 146 in Islay in 1994, for which the crew was found negligent by a board of inquiry.[52][53]
On 9 February 1976, Charles took command of the coastal minehunter HMS Bronington for his last ten months of active service in the navy

My bad, didn’t think he had done military service. And I too am old enough that I should have remembered it ………. But didn’t!

HermioneWeasley · 14/09/2022 13:12

They’ve managed to keep their heads down (after some scandal) remain married and have children. It’s something thousands of people achieve every day. I don’t think it’s particularly note worthy or praise worthy.

ParanoidGynodroid · 14/09/2022 13:38

My XH was in the RN, and served in the Falklands. He always maintained that Andrew was kept well out of the way of any dangerous situations

Of course he was. And the name badge on his uniform said “HRH Prince Andrew”, the arrogant prick. He has always thought that he is something special and superior, even though his position is only because he was lucky enough to be born to a queen.
William and Harry had “William Wales” and “Harry Wales” on their uniforms.

Nekomata · 14/09/2022 13:42

x2boys · 14/09/2022 09:32

Let's not forget the Disastrous " It's a Royal Knock-out!".

I remember watching it at the time and really enjoying it. It was a lot of fun!

It's probably on Youtube somewhere.

Nekomata · 14/09/2022 13:42

Nekomata · 14/09/2022 13:42

I remember watching it at the time and really enjoying it. It was a lot of fun!

It's probably on Youtube somewhere.

And, of course, The Princess Royal was very much the star of the show!

JenniferBarkley · 14/09/2022 14:02

I presume Edward will be announced Duke of Edinburgh some time between the coronation and the funeral. I suspect the announcement of William as PoW was to shore up the succession and underline his importance from the get go. Changing Edward's title but not Anne's, Harry's or even Andrew's may have seemed to elevate him above his siblings. William's new title is because he is the heir to the throne. Edward's will be because of his parents' wishes. Two different things they won't have wanted to conflate.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 16:07

viques · 14/09/2022 12:18

Nor did Charles do any actual military service, their military roles/ ranks are as symbolic figureheads . Andrew was about to be granted the title of Admiral as a 60 th birthday present BE ( before Epstein). Apparently he had already been measured up for the outfit…….

He did. He served in the Royal Navy.

Surtsey · 14/09/2022 16:22

Antarcticant · 14/09/2022 12:36

Yes - anyone who is customer-facing in their job is expected to be friendly.

Most people in a customer-facing job have chosen to do it, rather than having it thrust upon them because of who they are related to. I expect they do have a fairly long apprenticeship in the art though.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 16:23

No one in a customer-facing job apart from Charles has 73 years of training for the job.

Dinoteeth · 14/09/2022 16:41

No one in a public facing role would be expected to take a promotion and be at work two days after their mother died - except Charles.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 16:43

Dinoteeth · 14/09/2022 16:41

No one in a public facing role would be expected to take a promotion and be at work two days after their mother died - except Charles.

Not true. Plenty of family businesses require this. One side of my family are farmers. When the grandfather died suddenly his son had to step in straight away.
The Royal Family are essentially a family business so have the same expectations.

Dinoteeth · 14/09/2022 16:58

Since when were farmers public facing? 🤔
I bet they never had to sign a dozen bits of history documents that people will dig out the cupboards in 400 years time either with cameras watching them.

ancientgran · 14/09/2022 17:08

viques · 14/09/2022 13:10

My bad, didn’t think he had done military service. And I too am old enough that I should have remembered it ………. But didn’t!

Don't worry. My husband has a saying, "If you want to know something useless ask Ancient." I don't know why I remember lots of totally useless irrelevant things and wish I could remember the important bits more. You might actually remember the useful stuff (says me who got the date of a hospital appointment wrong and went today when it was yesterday.)