Prince Andrew heckled as they escort HM coffin.

[JustTheOneSwan]

It was inevitable but in this I feel very sorry for his siblings and daughters.

@NanaNelly read again. I didn't state anything as fact. I even called it speculation. And the article I read didn't describe the other teenage boy as a deck hand. But I've read enough to know I wouldn't trust them to babysit grand children.

FBI files on Prince Charles' uncle Lord Mountbatten describe him as "homosexual with a perversion for young boys."

And yet people (and posters on here) still defend this depraved lot.

Sexuality
Ron Perks, Mountbatten's driver in Malta in 1948, alleged that he used to visit the Red House, an upmarket gay brothel in Rabat used by naval officers.[118] Andrew Lownie, a fellow of the Royal Historical Society, wrote that the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) maintained files regarding Mountbatten's alleged homosexuality.[119] Lownie also interviewed several young men who claimed to have been in a relationship with Mountbatten. John Barratt, Mountbatten's personal and private secretary for 20 years,[120] has said Mountbatten was not a homosexual, and that it would have been impossible for such a fact to have been hidden from him.[116]
In 2019, files became public showing that the FBI knew in the 1940s of allegations that Mountbatten was homosexual and a paedophile.[121] The FBI file on Mountbatten, begun after he took on the role of Supreme Allied Commander in Southeast Asia in 1944, describes Mountbatten and his wife Edwina as "persons of extremely low morals", and contains a claim by American author Elizabeth, Baroness Decies, that Mountbatten was known to be a homosexual and had "a perversion for young boys".[119][122] Norman Nield, Mountbatten's driver from 1942 to 1943, told the tabloid New Zealand Truth that he transported young boys aged 8 to 12 who had been procured for the Admiral to Mountbatten's official residence and was paid to keep quiet. Robin Bryans had also claimed to the Irish magazine Now that Mountbatten and Anthony Blunt, along with others, were part of a ring that engaged in homosexual orgies and procured boys in their first year at public schools such as the Portora Royal School in Enniskillen. Former residents of the Kincora Boys' Home in Belfast have asserted that they were trafficked to Mountbatten at Classiebawn Castle his residence in Mullaghmore, County Sligo.[123][124][125] These claims were dismissed by the Historical Institution Abuse (HIA) Inquiry.[126][116][127] The HIA stated that the article making the original allegations "did not give any basis for the assertions that any of these people [Mountbatten and others] were connected with Kincora".[126]

Charles was great pals with jimmy saville

I do think there's going to be more focus on the Epstein links once the queen is buried, the honeymoon over and everything calmed down a bit. Including her own behaviour. Her status somewhat protected her while she was living, but that isn't necessarily going to continue now she's dead.

I think someone asked earlier, but did Andrew and the other Royals hear what the heckler said? If not I’m sure they know now.

Her status somewhat protected her while she was living, but that isn't necessarily going to continue now she's dead.

She waved two fingers at the plebs over Andrew from the get-go.

Earliest example being pictured riding with him at Windsor in full view of a known pap haunt two days after Newsnight.

"It was Mountbatten who introduced the notorious Jimmy Savile into the royal family and paedophile Savile too became a regular Buckingham Palace guest and a mentor, adviser and fixer to Prince Charles."

There is a huge amount of information out there. Royal family, politicians, VIPs. Boys taken out of children's homes for 'boat trips'. Of course, we're all conspiracy theorists 🙄

Quite. And not a great deal was made of it. I could see that particular tide turning at some point in the future.

@Dave20

Don’t know for sure but from the video would be surprised if they didn’t hear. He was close by when shouting and it was otherwise silent among the rest of the crowd, so I reckon chances are high they heard.

That's the FBI files on African-American singer, Paul Robeson. It spends a lot of time talking about his Communist Party links, being a concealed Communist and his attempts to get a passport.

Hence, why it says "Paul Robeson, Sr" on it.

The Mountbatten reference is about ONE person's claim regarding boys. It is not an FBI file on Mountbatten where they concluded Mountbatten was a paedophile. Its literally a memo and not a conclusion of an investigation into the allegations against Mountbatten.

So, your assertion that "Uncle Dickie was a pedo according to the FBI" isn't correct.....is it?

You misrepresented the single memo mentioning Mountbatten in a file full of various US Government memos and articles about Paul Robeson's activities....correct?

I agree.

i was shocked by the photo with Andrew.

I too was shocked ( and disappointed ) by that photo.
It basically was giving two fingers............

She waved two fingers at the plebs over Andrew from the get-go

Quite
I'm sure we all realise it's her son and what goes on in private is up to them, but there was really no need for this

he's been allowed back in uniform for the vigil tonight. bet the Regiment are happy about that!

It's so odd to me this determination to wear uniforms at particular events-because the others are??

Why I wonder have they allowed it for this &not the following the coffin the other day?

Is this a family thing so protocol(?) can be relaxed??

I don't understand this either. Why remove the rank only to give it back for special occasions? And also, doesn't doing it, after all these days of seeing him in a suit, just highlight the whole thing?

I'm no royalist but there was one photo of all the 'working' lol royals in their nutcracker soldier outfits laden with unearned medals and Harry in the middle in plain dark clothes.
He made them all look even more ridiculous

Why I wonder have they allowed (the uniform) for this & not the following the coffin the other day?

Perhaps because the vigil is in a more controllable indoor environment, whereas the coffin was being followed through the open streets?

It's surely obvious by now that the RF do nothing like this without careful planning, and since there was just one obvious protester during the walk we may soon see him wearing uniform outside too

So much for the hope that he'd be kept out of sight once mummy was gone, but then some of us never expected it

Why remove the rank only to give it back for special occasions?

Andrew still holds the rank of Vice Admiral.

If he'd been bumped to Admiral on his 60th which was the expected course of events we'd be seeing even more bling draped about his portly person.

He turned down the unearned promotion in the wake of the JE fallout but doubtless there was much gnashing of teeth and stamping of feet behind the scenes.

Oh and he reportedly lobbied very hard indeed to be able to wear uniform at Philip's funeral but was turned down hence the 'diplomatic' decision to lock the dressing up box to all.

So much for the hope that he'd be kept out of sight once mummy was gone, but then some of us never expected it

To a point I think that atm they are damned if they do/damned if they don't.

I wonder how much of what is happening re vigils/following the coffin from one resting place to another is what HMQ would have expected(?)/wanted?

I can't think that she would have wanted him to be excluded from it.

I do wonder why he wasn't up at Balmoral still though with Charles & Anne.

Perhaps after the funeral things will change.

I cant believe the naivety. Things will never change.

Veering off-topic in a sense, but given someone posted a link to it I found the dossier on Paul Robeson a very sobering document giving pause for reflection.

That man was one of the most persecuted citizens of his time and even had his passport confiscated for vocally speaking up against racism and advocating for the rights of workers. The document was dated 1957 - right in the throes of McCarthyism - and gave some pause for reflection given events in recent years and the sustained assault we are now experiencing on liberty of expression and right to protest. And the assault is there, as anyone who works in the NHS, civil service, and particularly UKHE can testify.

As a footnote to the stories of Mountbatten and Robeson, and his alleged affair with Edwina, they are interesting. In terms of Mountbatten's predilections that's all they are, an aside. But it's interesting to compare the establishment responses to the famous, vocal black bloke with a social conscience and the silence and rug sweeping around the very privileged, rich, white one.