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sendwineandastraw · 2022-09-08T20:50:26+00:00

I’m not a royalist by any means but I do feel sad with the queens passing, she seemed a lovely old lady and like many has been a constant all throughout my life… But OMG I cannot get over than literally 48 hours ago she was still doing duties and standing shaking Liz’s hand looking though frail, smiley and every bit the part, just how?! She really was incredible.

workiskillingme · 10/09/2022 21:19

BorgQueen · 10/09/2022 20:22

I really don’t think it was end stage cancer - everyone I’ve ever known with it was bed bound for days/weeks before their death, especially the older ones.

More likely to be heart failure/ stroke or anyeurism. DH’s Grandma was a similar age to The Queen and woke up one morning with stomach/chest pain, she was taken to hospital and the family were called and told she had a dissected aorta, nothing could be done and she would die within hours, everyone managed to get there before she died.

My grandad died of an aortic aneurysm
I would guess something similar or a PE

workiskillingme · 10/09/2022 21:22

jennakong · 10/09/2022 15:01

If the Queen had end stage cancer during Covid, then she would have been shielded, she would have had no public life at all. She did catch the disease and recovered quite quickly. Surely it would have been a death sentence to someone so desperately ill. So that doesn't really fit with the cancer theory for me.

I'm sure she would have refused to be shielded and probably refused any treatment

marktayloruk · 10/09/2022 21:24

She was the world's greatest lady. One of the breed now nearly extinct

Cariadm · 10/09/2022 21:27

Sorry but I simply have to question your use of the word 'working'? I am not, as you may have already guessed, in favour of having a monarchy, the whole notion of it is outdated and archaic with it's basis in vastly different and simpler times when monarchs actually had some input and influence!!
The whole idea of 'Royalty' is nonsense to begin with and means very little if you consider that a King or Queen was originally just someone with a bigger army and more followers than the next one and good at winning battles, stealing land and generally causing mayhem, not a very admirable heritage in reality?! Nobody has 'blue' blood, they are just ordinary human beings like everyone else and if they really believe that they are 'ordained by God' well they should be certified and not 'crowned in my opinion!!!
The OTT (and hugely expensive to maintain) pomp and ceremony nonsense is perpetuated for the benefit of the upper classes to maintain the status quo and control but for some reason is still lapped up by the proletariat who really, in this better informed and aware day and age really aught to know better?! 🤔😡

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 10/09/2022 21:44

I was amazed at how she was in her heels till the end, not sleepers, not trainers, but heels.
With the amount of walking she did over the years, it would have been easy to go for an easier option. However, she chose to always look the part, no matter what.
She was a force in many aspects and will be sadly missed. Rest in Peace Queen.

jennakong · 10/09/2022 21:56

@Cariadm I don't think anyone believes monarchs are divinely anointed or a different class of human, but there is no doubt that symbolism and emblems and dynasty are concepts that appeal to people and give life an extra dimension. I have no issue with pageantry and ritual. Peoples without monarchy have their own substitutes for it, usually churches or religion or political ideology. Even the most hardline communist states are full of displays of power and military might and weaponry. I don't think you are ever going to eliminate that human need for veneration, symbol, artefacts. And all major nations have bloody pasts, our most infamous period of 'mayhem' occurred during the Commonwealth, Cromwell was a butcher!

snowballer · 10/09/2022 22:17

I'm amazed at the number of posters who assume they know what she thought of Boris and seem determined to put their own views onto her
She was incredibly discreet so none of us will ever know but his tributes to her have been absolutely lovely, I would say they are among the best I've heard, so it seems unlikely they parted on bad terms

I'm quite sure she was never rude to him. I'm also fairly sure she didn't choose to somehow delay her death to spite him.

However, my strong guess is that she will have been furious at being lied to by him, and I can't think she had any respect for him for that reason.

I do think she made a monumental effort to ensure the new PM was installed and that there was no constitutional gap created. The personalities of the people involved wouldn't have been relevant in my opinion.

Pinkfluff76 · 10/09/2022 22:26

Or she could’ve retired decades ago and given Charles a chance to be King before he was old! Maybe she’s more selfish than people assume.

liveforsummer · 10/09/2022 22:32

Pinkfluff76 · 10/09/2022 22:26

Or she could’ve retired decades ago and given Charles a chance to be King before he was old! Maybe she’s more selfish than people assume.

What makes you think charles would have wanted that?

Autumn61 · 10/09/2022 22:44

Yeah died suddenly aged 96 ! Really ?

thedogshatonthematt · 10/09/2022 23:30

Pinkfluff76 · 10/09/2022 22:26

Or she could’ve retired decades ago and given Charles a chance to be King before he was old! Maybe she’s more selfish than people assume.

When she became Queen she vowed to devote her entire life to serving her country, a promise she kept for 70 years.

FictionalCharacter · 10/09/2022 23:45

Youngatheart00 · 08/09/2022 21:53

I know, this is one of the things that has struck me the most. The picture of her there in her tartan skirt and cardigan smiling, carrying out her duties without fuss 2 days before she died.

It’s a wonderful photo which I’ll treasure. She was smiling and preparing to do her next task, almost at the end of her life. But her poor hands and legs give away that she was declining.

celticprincess · 11/09/2022 00:01

But if you look at that photo she looks frail. Like a shadow of her former self if you look at photos from even the jubilee or definitely last year. The first thing my DD noticed were her hands. They looked bruised.

I too can’t get over how she was up and about 48 hours before she passed. Remarkable. I do hope she wasn’t in pain and discomfort doing those final duties.

Definitelt a remarkable woman. I actually can’t get over how much I fill up with tears when I’ve been watching clips on the TV. King Charles nearly finished me off with the end of his speech.

ConsuelaHammock · 11/09/2022 03:13

Amazing lady!
I don’t think she had a bruise on her hand. My sister who’s a district nurse said it looked like her circulatory system was shutting down. She nurses a lot of elderly people and their hands often look like this near the end.

Hastingsontheup · 11/09/2022 06:50

containsnuts · 10/09/2022 20:19

I hope not but presumably they know exactly what killed her since there is no mention of a post mortem.

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Morbid but I was talking to my DM about this. I would put money on the death cert stating " frailty of old age". At 96 that is sufficient.

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 11/09/2022 06:59

Or she could’ve retired decades ago and given Charles a chance to be King before he was old! Maybe she’s more selfish than people assume.

I used to think along these lines. But after watching some of Charles' Accession Council yesterday it makes sense to me now why she didn't. She made an oath / proclamation to serve her country until she died.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 11/09/2022 08:28

jennakong · 10/09/2022 15:01

If the Queen had end stage cancer during Covid, then she would have been shielded, she would have had no public life at all. She did catch the disease and recovered quite quickly. Surely it would have been a death sentence to someone so desperately ill. So that doesn't really fit with the cancer theory for me.

She didn’t have it during covid. It’s clear she developed it late spring /early summer. You can easily see the turning point and the fast deterioration, when she started loosing weight, public appearances started to be reduced, until In the past few weeks she barely appeared In public at all. She barely attended her own jubilee. We saw her for a few mins max with most appearances Cancelled or Charles stepping in.

anne and Charles were not in Scotland by coincidence. Anne wasn’t staying with her by chance. And the end stage cancer haemorrhaging visible in her hands and arms can’t be ignored because she did indeed pass the next day, proving the validity of the oncologists comments.

Figgygal · 11/09/2022 08:31

Pinkfluff76 · 10/09/2022 22:26

Or she could’ve retired decades ago and given Charles a chance to be King before he was old! Maybe she’s more selfish than people assume.

You've clearly no idea about the vows she made and her commitment to them.
She took that role for life and was doing it until basically hours before her death you don't just shuffle off to spend your retirement in the Bahamas if you are the leader of the church of England appointed by God to rule to let your son have a shot.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 11/09/2022 08:38

snowballer · 10/09/2022 22:17

I'm amazed at the number of posters who assume they know what she thought of Boris and seem determined to put their own views onto her
She was incredibly discreet so none of us will ever know but his tributes to her have been absolutely lovely, I would say they are among the best I've heard, so it seems unlikely they parted on bad terms

I'm quite sure she was never rude to him. I'm also fairly sure she didn't choose to somehow delay her death to spite him.

However, my strong guess is that she will have been furious at being lied to by him, and I can't think she had any respect for him for that reason.

I do think she made a monumental effort to ensure the new PM was installed and that there was no constitutional gap created. The personalities of the people involved wouldn't have been relevant in my opinion.

I remember reading recently, think it was in Private Eye, that the Palace legal team had prepared for various scenarios where Boris tried more shenanigans this summer, because the queen was so pissed off about him dragging her into the illegal prorogation of Parliament. That does actually sound plausible. Nobody in the queen's role who gave even one or two fucks could've been ok with what happened and she would've had to be a weapons grade fuckwit to place any trust at all in him.

I say this as someone who doesn't support the monarchy and finds much of the fawning praise over the woman laughable. And I do also feel for anyone who had to spend part of the final two days of their life with Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.

Diamondsareforever123 · 11/09/2022 11:00

I'm a republican but I am sorry she has died. But parliament will be in paralysis until after the funeral! The country is in a huge crisis and I am concerned things will be overlooked. The Tories must be loving this.

Toddlerteaplease · 11/09/2022 12:46

I bet she still did her red boxes on Monday evening.

Toddlerteaplease · 11/09/2022 12:47

Wednesday evening that should have said. She never missed them.

the80sweregreat · 11/09/2022 15:48

I agree that the ' bury bad news' aspect will be exploited by those in power.

daisychain01 · 11/09/2022 21:52

Cariadm · 10/09/2022 21:27

Sorry but I simply have to question your use of the word 'working'? I am not, as you may have already guessed, in favour of having a monarchy, the whole notion of it is outdated and archaic with it's basis in vastly different and simpler times when monarchs actually had some input and influence!!
The whole idea of 'Royalty' is nonsense to begin with and means very little if you consider that a King or Queen was originally just someone with a bigger army and more followers than the next one and good at winning battles, stealing land and generally causing mayhem, not a very admirable heritage in reality?! Nobody has 'blue' blood, they are just ordinary human beings like everyone else and if they really believe that they are 'ordained by God' well they should be certified and not 'crowned in my opinion!!!
The OTT (and hugely expensive to maintain) pomp and ceremony nonsense is perpetuated for the benefit of the upper classes to maintain the status quo and control but for some reason is still lapped up by the proletariat who really, in this better informed and aware day and age really aught to know better?! 🤔😡

Well you must be mighty pissed off at how seamlessly King Charles III has ascended as the new Monarch, then.

The Monarchy isn't going away any time soon, not in your life time or mine, so you may as well get used to it

Canthave2manycats · 12/09/2022 02:27

Cariadm · 10/09/2022 21:27

Sorry but I simply have to question your use of the word 'working'? I am not, as you may have already guessed, in favour of having a monarchy, the whole notion of it is outdated and archaic with it's basis in vastly different and simpler times when monarchs actually had some input and influence!!
The whole idea of 'Royalty' is nonsense to begin with and means very little if you consider that a King or Queen was originally just someone with a bigger army and more followers than the next one and good at winning battles, stealing land and generally causing mayhem, not a very admirable heritage in reality?! Nobody has 'blue' blood, they are just ordinary human beings like everyone else and if they really believe that they are 'ordained by God' well they should be certified and not 'crowned in my opinion!!!
The OTT (and hugely expensive to maintain) pomp and ceremony nonsense is perpetuated for the benefit of the upper classes to maintain the status quo and control but for some reason is still lapped up by the proletariat who really, in this better informed and aware day and age really aught to know better?! 🤔😡

Well thankfully the majority in the UK disagree with your crass opinion. Open your blinkered, biased eyes. The Queen did an amazing job for her country even when she must have known she was dying. She made a vow and kept it with bells on! People like you clearly can’t comprehend what the monarchy means to our people and our Queen was the most faithful and dedicated monarch we have had! I had always hoped she would make it to 100, but losing her beloved Philip really took its toll. Have some respect!!