Moderate thread for moderates (re the queen)

[TheSpottedZebra]

This is a moderate thread for moderate people who aren't mad keen royalists but also aren't wishing the royals harm either.

For those who don't post mawkish shite but also don't post hateful things.

For those who spent hours watching the news but then went to the loo at 6.30, and for those who stayed watching the news. Or watched no news.

For those who are passed off at Eastenders is cancelled, and for those not that bothered.

Come gather here, air your petty gripes but not your mean ones. Have a gossip, or talk about your dinner.

I'm not a royalist by any means but I liked and respected the Queen. It was obvious she took her duty seriously and put it before herself and her own opinions.

I don't think the same can be said for the younger members of the royal family and I think it will be hard to take them as seriously now that she's gone.

This is the right thread for me.I have not been exactly saddened by the Queen's death, as I think it was expected.When I saw the photo a couple of days ago of the Queen when she met Liz Truss her appearance made me realise her time was coming.
I feel for Charles in that his mother had to die then he was king.At 73 he has had a long wait.He has to grieve and get used to being addressed as Your Majesty at the same time.I can remember reading the story of when her grandfather George V died, his wife Queen Mary, ever respectful of duty, got up and bowed to her eldest son, Edward VIII dressing him as Your Majesty before returning to grieve over her husband.
I am not looking forward to the build up to the funeral.The non stop fawning from the media, and seemingly endless tributes from people, especially celebrities claiming how the Queen has touched their lives and expecting to get invites to her funeral so they can be seen there.

I wonder if it will be revealed when she died. The afternoon was a sort of 'Schroedinger's Queen' period for the public. It's disconcerting not to know.

I was working the shift from hell from late morning till about 9:30 today so although i was dimly aware she was ill and then had died, I couldn’t pause at all really to take it in and still haven’t watched any coverage yet. I feel strangely detached from the world.

I am a bit sad that the world has lost a dedicated public servant. Relieved for her that if yesterday’s photos were anything to go by, the end was swift. Glad she doesn’t have to linger on without her beloved Philip. Cross at Harry for all the controversies in her final year. And just watching and waiting for the future really.

I felt strangely sorry for Harry. We know he and his grandmother were close. He was travelling up to Scotland on his own and when they eventually reported her death after 6pm the BBC was still describing him as travelling up and they had already reported the other as having arrived already maybe an hour before at that point. I’d imagine if the family went ahead and publicly announced her passing before Harry had arrived that would be extremely painful for him. Hopefully that was just reporting not being updated in real time.

It sounds like rather an ideal way to go, at home with medical care and I just hope for her close relatives that (just as I would wish for any family) that they all had the good fortune to all be together when they lost their loved one. But obviously not everyone has that opportunity whether in RF or not.

Her death is resonant in itself for the person she was and also for a lot of people that have suffered bereavement, this death has a symbolic sadness to it as a reminder of other losses we have experienced. I think the media was well handled today to prepare us that the end was coming, and whether or not her passing had already happened in reality, it doesn’t really matter.
I will miss the idea of continuity and public service and religious faith that the Queen represented, as well as the idea of her being a national ‘granny’ figure to the public in her later years which is a nice role for us to have had someone in. Charles will be fine as a King, this is really not the end of the monarchy as some have suggested.

I'm the same as you OP. I find the anti royal OTT vitriol distasteful, but equally I cannot abide the drama and crying for a very old lady, who died peacefully with her family around her.

I'm abroad on holiday so thankfully the worst of the media stuff will have died down before I return.
I can't feel sad about it because while she died in luxurious surroundings with people dancing to her attendance, some poor soul died alone in a hospital bed where no one gave a crap.

It's sad yes, my thoughts go out to her family
But Jesus Christ I wish they'd keep the news coverage to one bloody channel

This is going to go on for DAYS!

It’s an odd one. I have never been that fussed about the RF. I have always liked watching the Queen in the funnier moments where you see who she is a bit more. I would have always said I liked her, but not overly fussed.

But I do find it sad. It is a big thing to have happened. I don’t find her death sad as such and tbh a bit of my upset is due to the fact that I recently lost my own mum. My upset is a bit selfish. I have found myself thinking about how mum only knew one monarch. And seeing the cars with her family arrive, made me feel for the family and reminded of me arriving at my mums after she collapsed and my dad telling me she had died. It’s all bit a fresh.

I feel for Charles and the family having to mourn their Mother and step straight into these roles and deal with everything they have to.

On the other hand, I feel exceptionally jealous my mum got 66 years, the last few in poor health and died while I was in my 30s. What I wouldn’t give for my mum to live to the Queens age, especially since she enjoyed good health for the majority.

Theres a massive cultural element to it as well. There’s lots of emotions. Not overly weeping or devastated. But a lot of emotion not all for the RF though.

I'm sad at the passing of an era but excited for change. I think that Charles III might mix things up a bit- like his assertion that he will be defender of the faiths, plural- and I'm here for it.

Queenie has quickly become my most hated word along with holibobs and hubster. Why, just why?

Blame Blackadder

I missed the announcement, I'd been watching the news all afternoon then turned it off at 6 and took doggo out. Dd then messaged me with 'she's dead.'

It was strange in the sense its the end of an era but I don't feel sad, she had an incomparable life, met everyone, saw so many places, had the best of everything etc. Plus she was 96, way beyond average life expectancy.

All the weeping and wailing is rather disconcerting tbh.

I feel for Charles and the family having to mourn their Mother and step straight into these roles and deal with everything they have to.

@Andromachehadabadday I've got no way of knowing of course, but I expect that Charles and his family being born into the roles in the monarchy and being prepared from birth, will handle it in a different way to you or I, which will be helpful for them at a time like this. Like the Queen, it's The show must go on.

for your loss

Oh yes! Thank you, I'd completely snoozed that one. Brain is a bit slow this early in the day.

my defence is that it was a different Queenie, the first QE lol.

Yes I expect that’s true. But it’s still his mum. And his mum had more involvement in his life everyday, than most of us experience. That’s a huge loss.

i believe there has to be moments where he wishes he could just make it all stop to take time to grieve, without having all the rest of it. But I expect after those moments, he will just carry on. And carrying on is very difficult in itself.

I'm sad because it reminds me of my grandma but I'm not crazy sad about it. Not gonna lie, I'm more concerned if I'm going to lose a days business for the funeral (own restaurant) because of this as quite frankly I can't afford to.... again!!

Feel the same. Liked her, thought she did good duty. Loved her Paddington and Bond Olympics. But I'm over it now. 10 days seems too long.

I was just thinking this morning what a shock it must have been to people when her father died.
We all knew this was coming at some point soon.
It must have been a bolt from the blue.

I do wish they would allocate a tv channel for it but I guess as they are all chasing an audience we are stuck with it.
Plus we have a long awaited hospital appointment on the 19th and I've emailed to ask if it will be cancelled.
And I'm going to London Sunday near Green Park and hoping not to have to wade through crowds.
It's all about me

I wonder how he'd explain that comment to atheists? Maybe it was a just meant to denote toleration, and not privileging the CofE, which would be fine.

I'm not overly impressed with him being king;he's abit of a wet lettuce.

Didn't watch the news, only saw it on The Sun app. I'm not a royals fan and never have been. Yes it's sad, but they're just a stranger. All these people crying their eyes out for a stranger baffles me.

I'll miss looking at her, her outfits and hats. But I truly understand why, for those colonised and for the ROI, there is the opposite of sadness. Oppressed people were also much loved and devoted parents and grandparents. If there were a referendum, I'd vote to abolish. Life is going inexorably in a new direction, as life tends to

This was exactly me too! I was so annoyed!