Moderate thread for moderates (re the queen)

[TheSpottedZebra]

This is a moderate thread for moderate people who aren't mad keen royalists but also aren't wishing the royals harm either.

For those who don't post mawkish shite but also don't post hateful things.

For those who spent hours watching the news but then went to the loo at 6.30, and for those who stayed watching the news. Or watched no news.

For those who are passed off at Eastenders is cancelled, and for those not that bothered.

Come gather here, air your petty gripes but not your mean ones. Have a gossip, or talk about your dinner.

I do find the machinations very interesting however.

Eg William and Kate are now Duke and Duchess of Cornwall, and as such, suddenly very minted. Much richer than his brother. So thT will change their relationship even more.

And I feel sorry for Harry. He's clearly àn outcast and that must be especially hard at times like this. Andrew was on the flight up but no Harry? Interesting.

And Harry's children have now automatically become Prince and Princess.

I sat and watched it most of the afternoon and then didn't- probably trawling MN and my daughter WhatsApped to say she had gone. To be honest I think she died early afternoon but for protocol they didn't announce anything until 6pm. I've cried on and off since the announcement. Hard to take it in really.

Without sounding like a cow -why are you crying?

I feel a little sad, and have raised a glass for her. I'll miss her hats.

Will it be the end of the Commonwealth?

This is the thread for me. I'm not a believer in the monarchy at all but I do feel a sense of living through history. Despite my personal views I feel respectful of her service and duty.
I would like to think Harry would be welcomed and Charles makes some modernisation.
Dreading the wall to wall coverage and social media outpouring, already seen the Queen "past" away.
Will schools really close ?

Agree that she probably died much earlier. On another thread that I was glued to there were a fair few people who claimed to have people in the know tell them she doed at 3.27pm. I'll be interested to see if that is the case, if indeed we do find out.

So many of my friends are upset over Eastenders😩

It’s sad a human life has been lost but 96 is a great age to live too. I feel no emotion and I’m certainly not crying any tears over someone I don’t even know

I had a meeting with a colleague in the US, so missed everything.

I'm weirdly much sadder than a republican should be: I think it's not just about the death of a person, but everything it represents and brings up.

Yes, it's sad but she was old. Her family will be sad. I think the monarchy is much more of an anachronism than it was when she was crowned.

Yes I reckon she died just before Liz Truss's commons speech, hence the seriousness of the MP's responses walking out etc. I don't think they were told she'd died but whatever they'd written in those notes made it clear the time is now.

Great idea.
Not a royal fan, but actually nearly cried when I heard. It's very sad for her family and the country has lost an asset. Another thought I had was, thank God for Netflix, though!
I'll be on high alert for the government sneaking out bad news under cover of this.

This is definitely the thread for me.
I had a lot of respect for the Queen herself, anyone else at her age wouldn't have had the kind of responsibilities and public duties she managed to perform. And she was always classy and flawless.

Not overly fussed on the royal family as a whole though.

Come from a family of mad royalists, was with my mum (who started sobbing) when it was announced.

Had my daughter ask me if she should be crying! (She's 11) so I told her it's OK to be upset as she was a lovely old lady who would be missed by her family, but if she didn't want to cry then that's OK as well.

I reckon she died earlier but they didn't announce it until Harry arrived.

They do not want headlines like "Distraught Harry discovered his grandmother died on BBC news"

I am not a royalist and I actually think it’s time for the monarchy to end. But I do have a level of respect for the Queen and how seriously she took her role. I don’t think Charles will be able to live up to her.

Great idea for a thread, OP. I've been horrified by some really unpleasant, angry anti-monarchist posts from people I quite liked on SM. I really don't understand why they think a president would be any better than the royal family.

Like others I'm a Republican by ideology but feel surprisingly melancholy about it. I felt great respect for Queenie, simply for the fact that she clearly believed in her duty of service and boy did she commit to it. Her whole life given up to what she deemed to be her duty, (regardless of my views on monarchy, she never got to live a normal life).

Above all we never really heard her opinions on anything, no bare it all interviews, and always managed to come across as pretty humble and respectful given the privileges she had. I think that's pretty extraordinary in leaders to be fair.

Probably the thread for me - not a royalist but I don't wish the royals ill. I'd gone to have a bath when the announcement came - it was starting to feel like April the giraffe - while I was watching, they were never going to announce it.

I'm certainly no monarchist, but I've been a bit fascinated by the Queen these last few years - what a life she's led. The absolute sense of duty that meant she was photographed holding an audience with a new prime minister a matter of two days before her death is something to behold. Although partly I wonder if she felt she could finally relax once she'd seen the back of Boris Johnson

May she rest in peace.

Also the thread for me. I found myself having what I can only describe as a short lived visceral weep earlier when her condition was announced earlier and it was pretty clear what was going on. As a PP said earlier, it was despite of myself as I've minimal interest in the monarchy and believe it's an outdated and irrelevant institution.

I liked her. She was tough and calm and she kept the promise she made in her twenties. I'm glad she got to hand the PM office from Boris to Liz Truss, to stand and smile and look bright and positive reaching for the handshake must have taken a bit of doing. And she had "lorry mechanic" on her CV.

As others have said, it just feels like things will never be the same again without the Queen. I don't care for the Royals but wouldn't wish them any harm, they will be upset as any of us would be losing a grandparent.

It's the huge fanfare that follows which will be grim. Can't stand that aspect of it.

I'm glad to see she didn't appear to suffer too much or for too long.

she clearly believed in her duty of service and boy did she commit to it. Her whole life given up to what she deemed to be her duty

Yes. No matter your views surely everyone would agree with this.

Sensible thread. I felt surprisingly sad and surprised myself by shedding a tear when the news came, although I'm no monarchist and had been expecting it all day. I fail to see how anyone could deny that she was an amazing woman, whatever you feel about her position/privilege/etc. She had an amazing sense of duty and we will not have a monarch like her again.

Interested to see what happens next.

Definitely this.