Moderate thread for moderates (re the queen)

[TheSpottedZebra]

This is a moderate thread for moderate people who aren't mad keen royalists but also aren't wishing the royals harm either.

For those who don't post mawkish shite but also don't post hateful things.

For those who spent hours watching the news but then went to the loo at 6.30, and for those who stayed watching the news. Or watched no news.

For those who are passed off at Eastenders is cancelled, and for those not that bothered.

Come gather here, air your petty gripes but not your mean ones. Have a gossip, or talk about your dinner.

Sorry to hear that, GuyFawkesDay. Hope treatment is swift, comfortable and of course successful. It's a lot to deal with, isn't it?

Glad someone else gets it Zebra I just don't like being spoken for, and I dislike 'the nation feels' type stuff anyway. Literally not feeling more than a passing sympathetic thought for her bereaved family, mild curiosity about what's coming for the royals and hope hospital appointments don't coincide with the funeral and get cancelled.

Yes I agree.
That's why it annoys me the wall to wall coverage. It's like being told that I must care.
But I'm not really anti monarchy, I actually quite like them!
It must be even worse if you are actually strongly opposed.

One thing I'm pleased about, it looks like the Queen had a 'good' death. Able to stand, and do stuff on Tuesday, no long lingering death and still (apparently) with a sharp mind.

I've been wondering a little if a I'm slightly broken. I feel sympathy for her family. I recognise it as a moment in history, but I don't feel sad myself.

Yes - strange to think the picture of the Queen appointing Liz Truss as PM is the last picture we will ever have of her.

I thought she was pretty fab as a brilliant lady but am instinctively anti-monarchy so all in all a bit neutral.

Did a real raised eyebrow though at the Guardian (which is my preferred news source) putting a line about our new King Charles' "ruminations to Camilla on how he would like to be her tampon" into the Queen's actual obituary... I don't think she deserved that by a long shot!

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/08/queen-elizabeth-ii-obituary

I’m Polish, so I see things differently, no bawling, but no hate either. I don’t pay tv licence, so no bbc news for me, but I was off sick today and was checking news websites regularly since I found out that Queen has been unwell. I think everyone kinda knew it. She was unwell few times, but family was never rushing to meet her all at once. I feel like her death is end of an era though.

I'm glad she got to die somewhere she loved, not rushed to hospital to have it dragged out.

I'm quite excited I'm going to get to see a coronation in real-time. I feel like there won't be many more. Maybe William, but I don't think there will be a monarchy by the time George's time comes.

I think it's a very normal response to someone who is elderly that you don't know, dying in comfortable circumstances.
I don't understand the people who see it as 'heartbreaking' or those that are crying.
Why do so many people want to borrow grief?

And like some of the others I resent being told how I must feel about it and being included in the 'we'.

I was at work and on the phone when a colleague showed me the news on their phone. I just carried on with the call as couldn't really do anything else, wasn't appropriate to hang up or mention it really. The atmosphere was a bit subdued and odd afterwards.

Really admired her determination and sense of duty - she vowed to serve her whole life and that's what she did. She had grace and poise, but the thing I admire her most for was her horsemanship, as I love horses.

I'm also glad that as a human she didn't seem to linger or suffer, I've seen people go like this before who are elderly and become poorly but it's sort of in the background and the last deterioration happens very swiftly, preferred to long and lingering, it's horrible to witness for those around them and for the person themselves - though I would think she had the best of care at hand ready to act when needed to ease things.

No matter how old, or who she was I feel for her family as losing someone is always hard, and also for the footmen/ladies in waiting and personal secretaries etc that were close to her through their jobs and must have known her well and will feel her loss too.

It's definitely the end of something, she was a constant for so long, there in the background for 70 years - and now that is changing in already uncertain times, we will have to see where the monarchy go from here and if and how that affects the country overall once the shock wears off and the dust settles.

Does anyone know what will happen to the Queen's corgis and dorgis? I have no doubt they will be loved and looked after, I am just interested to know.

Didn't one come from Andrew and another from her gamekeeper? So maybe they'll go to them?

Im sure there'll be plenty of takers. There must be people in the household - ie staff - who do the bulk of the care anyway so maybe they'll take them? Maybe the queen had it all worked out.

I wonder how Angela Kelly is, the queen's dresser? They were meant to be very close. Does she 'get' to matter at times like this?

I think she outlived them all didnt she? A few years ago she said she wouldn't have any more because of her age I think.

This was a really interesting obit! I never knew that TQ was born by caesarian! I knew she was born at home (Park Lane mansion) and the home secretary was there, but a c section then must have been triple terrifying!

Agree the tampon mention was -a lot, and then the article pretty much accused her of perjury, if she could infact perjury in her own court.

Oh, I was wrong re the dogs - didn't realise she'd been given lockdown pups.

Yeah but then she got/was given some more. Below from wiki. So 3 dogs?

"The Queen's only remaining dorgi was Candy, before it was joined by another dorgi pup named Fergus and a pure-bred corgi called Muick in 2021.[6] Fergus died in the same year.[7] In June 2021, she was gifted a new corgi by her family"

I’m a bit annoyed about eastenders not even being on iplayer. I want to know frankie is ok.

Andrew got her a pup, which died pretty quickly, and she was given another on what would have been Philip's 100th.

I reckon the bad man isnt going to harm her but she's dropped her card or something.

I think she would have had a plan for the dogs. I was reading about how as a girl she laid her clothes out overnight and got up to check they were straight, she doesn’t strike me as a woman who would leave her beloved dogs to chance.

I hope you’re right 🤞🏻

No, I'd have said that's entirely normal and rational.

Who do you think will get to do the hastily edited-in scene about the queen?
Not Linda as she's an alcoholic. Probably Sharon, Kathy and maybe Sonia for some gravitas.

No hate from me, but no tears or sadness either. She lived a long and full life. I’m anti-monarchy and don’t want to be lumped in with the Nation’s Mourning or anything like that. I heartily dislike all the sentimentality and rainbows and tears from people who never met her. May she rest in peace and may her funeral be handled with dignity.