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Moderate thread for moderates (re the queen)

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TheSpottedZebra · 08/09/2022 19:56

This is a moderate thread for moderate people who aren't mad keen royalists but also aren't wishing the royals harm either.

For those who don't post mawkish shite but also don't post hateful things.

For those who spent hours watching the news but then went to the loo at 6.30, and for those who stayed watching the news. Or watched no news.

For those who are passed off at Eastenders is cancelled, and for those not that bothered.

Come gather here, air your petty gripes but not your mean ones. Have a gossip, or talk about your dinner.

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Ilovelindor · 08/09/2022 21:26

LittleLangdale · 08/09/2022 20:47

I've been watching the news all afternoon, mostly for the sense of watching a piece of history, and then they made the announcement as I was getting the baby and toddler ready for bed so I missed it! Very thankful for iplayer so I could watch it!

It's been more emotional than I thought it would be, I must admit

I agree with the sense of watching a piece of history. I think that was why I was glued to it all afternoon. This is a defining moment in history.

Gubu · 08/09/2022 21:26

I'm not even from the UK, and I had a bit of an emotional wobble when I heard the news about the family being called. I was just starting chairing a board meeting as the news of her death broke so didn't have time to dwell on it! I think it's the end-of-an-era thing that's struck me. She and her like were impressive women and they will be missed.

AppleCreamSlice · 08/09/2022 21:29

I do feel sad. Then remember she had a good life. Never had to wash up or cook.
May she Rest In Peace

Antarcticant · 08/09/2022 21:30

MichaelAndEagle · 08/09/2022 21:20

she clearly believed in her duty of service and boy did she commit to it. Her whole life given up to what she deemed to be her duty

Yes. No matter your views surely everyone would agree with this.

Yes, can't argue with that at all.

RagingWoke · 08/09/2022 21:30

TheSpottedZebra · 08/09/2022 20:32

Ohbsorry to hear that, RagingWoke.
That must be especially hard when juxtaposed with all the emoting for the queen.

I vote hat, as it sounds easiest.

Thank you, and yes it's almost surreal the outpouring of public grief for a select few. Particularly today it's on my mind with my DGM and the news of an old colleague and friend who died suddenly at 39 leaving 2 young dc. Perhaps i'm just at capacity for grief.

However, watching the coverage with my 6yo and talk of King Charles III it transpired she thought princess Diana and Diana of the Amazons (Wonder Woman) were the same person.

gogohmm · 08/09/2022 21:36

We are overseas and headed out for dinner 5 mins before the announcement. I ignored my bbc jingle thing for 35 mins before it got the better for me and I checked my phone (at this point most the restaurant we also staring at their phones!) it's the end of an era. I don't know her personally so it's simply a case of well I feel for her family

BloodyHellKen · 08/09/2022 21:43

AppleCreamSlice · 08/09/2022 21:29

I do feel sad. Then remember she had a good life. Never had to wash up or cook.
May she Rest In Peace

What a bizarre thing to say 😂 So because you think she never had to wash up or cook you don't feel as sad as you did.

missfliss · 08/09/2022 21:44

The thread for me too.

orangechoco · 08/09/2022 21:46

Where will her body be this evening whilst they all stay at the castle?

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Bsjjsnbs928 · 08/09/2022 21:50

On a human level she seemed like a pleasant person and glad she died where (I suspect) she wanted to. It does have a sense of end of an era about it. But the rolling news and emotional Facebook 'tributes' are to much for me. I watched some of the news but I did not need 20mins of when will Harry arrive, he is due to arrive, is that him, no but he will be here soon, he is on his way etc I would have rather had heard a few nice ancedotes - unnecessary coverage

JackandVera · 08/09/2022 21:50

I think this is the poignant bit for many people. It is the end of an era. Being born in the mid 50s it was a post war Britain and life was very different - no social media and all this stuff. It was family life, community and watching the Queen at Christmas. I had Grandparents who were alive during WW1 and my Mum and Dad were children during WW2. They remembered those days. It's hard to explain and only I think other people of my age will get it. A relative of mine died recently and she was the last of my family from those generations. It was very sad and I can only feel the same way about the Queen. Too many youngsters only know all the Harry and Meghan crap. I have also taught in Commonwealth schools around the world and know the high respect the Queen was held in and the benefits and strides that many of these countries made by being members of the Commonwealth. I do hope that Charles does follow on with his plans of a slimmed down monarchy. I think it is time.

Antarcticant · 08/09/2022 21:52

One thing that keeps striking me - we know the line of succession up to George, who is now aged 9. George might easily live another 90 or so years - so it could be that long (assuming we still have a monarchy) before the UK (assuming we still have a UK) has another Queen, and then only if George has children and a first born daughter. And I say 'we' but of course I and probably everyone logged into Mumsnet tonight will be dead by then.

Antarcticant · 08/09/2022 21:54

JackandVera · 08/09/2022 21:50

I think this is the poignant bit for many people. It is the end of an era. Being born in the mid 50s it was a post war Britain and life was very different - no social media and all this stuff. It was family life, community and watching the Queen at Christmas. I had Grandparents who were alive during WW1 and my Mum and Dad were children during WW2. They remembered those days. It's hard to explain and only I think other people of my age will get it. A relative of mine died recently and she was the last of my family from those generations. It was very sad and I can only feel the same way about the Queen. Too many youngsters only know all the Harry and Meghan crap. I have also taught in Commonwealth schools around the world and know the high respect the Queen was held in and the benefits and strides that many of these countries made by being members of the Commonwealth. I do hope that Charles does follow on with his plans of a slimmed down monarchy. I think it is time.

I asked my mum if talk of a 'king' was bringing back memories for her - she was 10 when the present Queen came to the throne - and she said it was. She remembers the death of George VI being announced when she was in school, and a girl in her class bursting into tears.

Bsjjsnbs928 · 08/09/2022 21:55

Yes that's interesting - I had not thought about the period of kings we are entering which may well go on for more generations

GuyFawkesDay · 08/09/2022 21:56

I am feeling teary but I think it's as much because I've found out today DF has cancer. Treatable but still a shock.

And then the world feels very uncertain and wobbly at the moment. New Prime Minister, energy and economic woes, war and instability. I think the Queen represented that stability for which we all long right now and maybe that's why I feel a bit more sad I thought I would.

Ultimately she was 96 and had a life lived to the full and I definitely don't like or do the whole mawkish thing but yeah....Today I have been sadder than I expected.

CloseYourMouthLynn · 08/09/2022 21:58

I feel sad for her family and think she gave her life for her service and that is to be admired. However, my brother died of cancer recently aged 41, leaving a young family. Although I realise you cannot compare death, she lived a full life and got to see her children and grandchildren grow up. I wish her family peace at this time.

meateatingveggie · 08/09/2022 22:00

I wonder what's happening at balmoral now. Hopefully they'll be eating cheese on toast and quaffing whisky and being together.

Having lost both parents and parents in law it's bloody hard

MeredithGreen · 08/09/2022 22:01

Would this be the thread to ask what will happen over the next couple of weeks.
Will tv show any normal programs?
Will there be a public holiday, schools off etc for the funeral?
Will people go about their normal lives over the weekend e.g. our local parish had put off their platinum jubilee celebration till this weekend, can’t see that happening.

MeredithGreen · 08/09/2022 22:02

meateatingveggie · 08/09/2022 22:00

I wonder what's happening at balmoral now. Hopefully they'll be eating cheese on toast and quaffing whisky and being together.

Having lost both parents and parents in law it's bloody hard

Remember this is William and Harry we are talking about, not sure it will be that friendly.

Antarcticant · 08/09/2022 22:04

MeredithGreen · 08/09/2022 22:01

Would this be the thread to ask what will happen over the next couple of weeks.
Will tv show any normal programs?
Will there be a public holiday, schools off etc for the funeral?
Will people go about their normal lives over the weekend e.g. our local parish had put off their platinum jubilee celebration till this weekend, can’t see that happening.

I don't know about TV.

The funeral might happen over the weekend so holiday may not be needed.

On another note, looking for TV info and saw Google has greyed its logo as a mark of respect.

Ghskl78888 · 08/09/2022 22:14

GuyFawkesDay · 08/09/2022 21:56

I am feeling teary but I think it's as much because I've found out today DF has cancer. Treatable but still a shock.

And then the world feels very uncertain and wobbly at the moment. New Prime Minister, energy and economic woes, war and instability. I think the Queen represented that stability for which we all long right now and maybe that's why I feel a bit more sad I thought I would.

Ultimately she was 96 and had a life lived to the full and I definitely don't like or do the whole mawkish thing but yeah....Today I have been sadder than I expected.

Hand hold and best wishes to your friend. Treatable or not it's rubbish and not something you want to see your friend go through xx

OneFrenchEgg · 08/09/2022 22:16

It's really weird but there's a real perverseness in how I feel about it. Like I recognise it's sad for her family and I don't feel any joy/glee/pleasure at her passing obviously. I appreciate others feel she was an amazing beacon of stability etc. But I'm neutral.
Then I read eg Boris Johnson speaking for all of us - everyone will/ we all will - and I really resent it. I'm not mourning and I'm not sad and I don't want to be included in the collective 'we'.

TheSpottedZebra · 08/09/2022 22:29

I don't want to be in the collective 'we' either, OneFrenchEgg !
I'd like to have my own feelings and to air them -or not- as I see fit.

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AllLopsided · 08/09/2022 22:31

I had it on all afternoon after seeing a thread on here. I had a crap week so was planning on lying the sofa anyway. I missed it not because I went to the loo, but because I forgot that I had rewound the TV 3 minutes a couple of hours previously to catch one of the few things that wasn't repeated 1000 times (which I'd missed when I was making a cup of tea). So I missed the announcement and heard via text from DH Blush

An hour ago I realised I'd forgotten to do the online shopping (pretty much the only thing I HAD to do today). Now I'm contemplating which music I'd choose for the funeral. I am a nerd who likes English church music!

(I hope that's not too irreverent)

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