Camilla Parker Bowles is now the Queen.

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That’s Queen consort, of course, but that idea is going to take a lot of getting used to.

Who was/were the other mistress/mistresses?

Kanga.

But not while he was married. That was over long before, when she started to talk to the press about him.

But Camilla, being from, and existing within, the same circles, also considered it completely normal. Diana having an issue would be baffling to them both. It’s not like there was a great deal of understanding in regards to mental health issues at the time, so Diana’s attitude would have been especially confusing.

If there’s a reluctance towards Camilla as queen for that reason, why wouldn’t there also be reluctant to see Diana become Queen then, considering she did exactly the same thing (and more often!) to multiple wives? Is the problem with being the other woman, or being the other woman only when the wife is Diana?

@Antarcticant Diana was from aristocracy and knew exactly how these things worked.

I would challenge that.

I understand she applied to a well-known girls boarding school and was turned down because she came over as a bit dim and could only talk about looking after rabbits.

So, she wasn't the brightest crayon in the box, and this was used to manipulate her. She bought into the fairytale of marrying a prince and when the penny finally dropped she was told she couldn't back out because "her face was on all the tea-towels".

She was a very sensitive, troubled girl who never got over her parents' divorce and I would suspect her MH was a bit rocky. All this made her potentially malleable, controllable and "useful" as a future Queen.

I agree she got a raw deal and was used both as a coat-hanger and brood mare.

Yeh, agree she definitely did not understand that she was a suitable brood mare. When she realised, she didn't believe she had the right to put herself before the needs of Charles or the monarchy.

In the run up to the wedding Diana's father said that Diana was 'a perfect physical specimen'. If I look that up in Google it will probably say that he described her as that when she was a baby. Well, ok, so he might have, but he said it when I was a grown-up watching the News, and Diana was a young grown-up, engaged to a prince. When the words 'suitable brood mare' are used, remember that Diana's own father saw her as that.

Yupp, how could she possibly have found her own sense of herself to reject the "deal".
Her inner voice probably told her that she was a suitable brood mare for the right man.

Exactly. Most young girls would have had parents looking out for them and absolutely horrified at the idea of their 19 year old daughter getting engaged to an older man she barely knew.

Diana's mother didn't seem to have much involvement in the whole thing while her father and stepmother were positively delighted at her becoming the Princess of Wales with all the reflected glory.

She really was badly let down. Hopefully that attitude is fast disappearing within the aristocracy and they have developed more respectful attitude towards marriage and women.

Duchess of Cornwall, Queen Consort, King, whatever are job titles. They're still Charles and Camilla Mountbatten -Windsor. They don't lose their name when they get a new job title.

‘Camilla Parker Bowles is now the Queen’

No she isn’t.
Camilla duchess of Cornwall is now the queen. Mrs Mountbatten-Windsor is her married name.
She has not been a Parker Bowles for over 20 years. She was Camilla Shand much longer than that also.

I'd no idea who this is so I looked her up. What a tragic life.

She's described on Wikipedia as Charles's mistress. He wasn't married so surely she was just his girlfriend?

I think she was married.

Affair may or may not have straddled his marriage. Probably did. Definitely overlap with Camilla.

It didn't straddle his marriage. He finished with Kanga well before Diana because she kept leaking stories to the press.

I checked she was married in 1973.

Her Grandmother, Lady Ruth Fermoy, was a personal friend of the late Queen and Queen Mother. She was also a lady in waiting to the late Queen Mother. She was up to her elbows in the marriage and according to Diana when she turned to her for help and advice when it was all going wrong she was basically given short shrift and sent away.

A sister was/is also married to one of the Queens (at the time) private secretaries and was also up to her elbows in Palace and Royal life. Her husband is one of her distant cousins and he was also the first cousin to Sarah Ferguson father.

Honestly, she did wrong but so did he. Diana and him were ill suited and both would have been better off with other people. She didn't get the chance, that's not his fault but fate. He's happy, Camilla is the right person for him. Give it a rest.

Certainly in the 80’s, a Prince would have been a seriously good prize even for a 19yo. They’d have undoubtedly pushed her towards the marriage and would have poo-poo’ed the thought of it being something inappropriate

Does anyone think Charles will give Camilla some pretty significant gift's as king?
Bestowed onto his Queen consort?

As her children are actually zero royalty

What incredible heirlooms she will be passing down to her children!
Different if you are royal but her daughter

Grandchildren will be getting some spectacular gifts?
I also wonder how her children and grandchildren will be incorporated into her new life? The royals blended family.

👍 This.

I'm sure he'll give her something special to commemorate the occasion. But nothing from the crown jewels. I don't think she'll be running off with the kohinoor diamond! Hehe.

But I remember Wallis Simpson jewels. They were sold off after her death. She had some really gorgeous items. He'd have to go some to come up with things as beautiful as those.

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron She's described on Wikipedia as Charles's mistress. He wasn't married so surely she was just his girlfriend?

But she was married to Lord Tryon.

She conveniently died of septicaemia a few months after Diana.

www.newidea.com.au/camillas-confession-prince-charles-aussie-mistress-murdered-new-idea-magazine

Yes that must be unprecedented. The Queen Consort having children thar are actually totally unrelated to the royals

Oo oo, I know something. 🥳

Elizabeth Woodville, wife of Edward IV, grandmother of Henry VIII, had two children from her first marriage. Richard Grey who was executed and Thomas Grey who was the great-grandfather (I think) of Lady Jane Grey. Also a queen for a few days.
Hurrah. I know something!!