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Which businesses are going to go under?

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Nobledeedsandhotbaths · 26/08/2022 23:45

I've been thinking about the upcoming crisis and wondering which 'non-essential' businesses are likely to lose most custom once things begin to bite.

Things like:
Tattoo artists
Nail technicians
Children's party entertainers
Just for a few examples.

There are many others I would class as non-essential that will potentially be ok because their client base is the wealthy, who will be less affected by what is going to happen.

What are other people's predictions for businesses that may struggle?

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Metabigot · 30/08/2022 17:15

quiteathome · 30/08/2022 12:52

It really does feel like that, I can't quite compared the fact that the kids could end up with some elements of homeschool again if schools have to close. Hopefully it will be mild winter.

And we still don't know if there will be a Covid wave and also we haven't had much flu around recently.

I need to cheer up a bit I think.

To cheer myself up I've bought a lovely high tech gilet (Rab cirrus vest if anyones interested ) to beat the chill this winter.

I'm buying them for all the family. We'll need them. They're last years stock so on sale now but prices bound to go up as we head into Autumn.

No more clothes buying for me unless it's practical stuff like thermals

verdantverdure · 30/08/2022 21:10

A pub that has survived since 1909...

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verdantverdure · 30/08/2022 21:36

Manufacturing:

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Babyroobs · 30/08/2022 21:49

I just read of a cafe in our local town whose energy bill is predicted to go up from 10k to 45 K. Very hard to see how small businesses like this can survive.

verdantverdure · 30/08/2022 22:08

Babyroobs · 30/08/2022 21:49

I just read of a cafe in our local town whose energy bill is predicted to go up from 10k to 45 K. Very hard to see how small businesses like this can survive.

They can't without massive government intervention in the energy market.

Leaving things to "the market" will destroy the British way of life as we have known it.

As fast as possible we need to build the infrastructure to be energy independent in electricity, stop burning gas to make electricity and take back control of the energy sector and nationalise it.

Energy should be run for the benefit of our country, our economy and our people, not for profit.

kateandme · 30/08/2022 22:23

There is also the disabled.who can’t go out,can’t save on power by being out the house or using less.either mentally or physically they are stuck in the house,often with equipment or routines that require power.they are in their homes 75%more than those who are well.so can you imagine the thought of your gas price going up,add 75% and being ill,often worse off,often helped less.
add to that their support will be lessened even more which doesn’t seem even possible for adult care to be any less!

Purple52 · 01/09/2022 23:59

botleybump · 27/08/2022 06:46

There's actually a thing called the 'lipstick effect' in which consumers lean towards spending money on less costly luxuries during times of economic crisis as people want luxuries to keep things cheerful despite the times.
That would suggest that the little luxuries like nail bars and a hair trim (perhaps not full foils), or maybe a reasonably priced massage etc would do well in times when holidays and designer bags are out of reach for many.

Apparently women's skirts get longer in times of economic distress too! So we can all look forward to the maxi making a comeback. 😅

should razor’s and waxing be added to the list ….. is that why skirts get longer?! ;-)

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/09/2022 07:05

care homes by the look of things

twitter.com/skynewsthompson/status/1565400085839728642?s=21&t=yy01H19P35Dd5EpeifEC0g

Sheffield care are not for profit but still a business.

Damnautocorrect · 02/09/2022 10:34

It’s ok mad nads says we just have to live within our means
the schools, hospitals, care homes etc just have to cut back more.

Damnautocorrect · 02/09/2022 10:34

Child care and nurseries is going to be tricky as well isn’t it.

EYProvider · 02/09/2022 20:26

Damnautocorrect · 02/09/2022 10:34

Child care and nurseries is going to be tricky as well isn’t it.

There isn’t a nursery in the country that can absorb those sorts of prices.

Nurseries are in large buildings (relative to a shop with a similar turnover) and they have to be heated. It isn’t possible, not without raising the fees by about 25% - 30%.

starsparkle08 · 03/09/2022 01:57

Counselling / talking therapies . How many people can afford £60 + an hour . Sad as mental
health is so important

lightand · 03/09/2022 06:46

Think it is already becoming a case of, which businesses will survive.

Assuming the government does nothing.

Titsywoo · 03/09/2022 12:03

Badbadbunny · 29/08/2022 07:00

VAT is 20% for small businesses too. Why do you think they have a special 5% rate - they don't!

Indeed! I wish we did.

Titsywoo · 03/09/2022 12:05

starsparkle08 · 03/09/2022 01:57

Counselling / talking therapies . How many people can afford £60 + an hour . Sad as mental
health is so important

Yes 3 of us have been havibg counselling this year and DH and I are dropping ours due to cost. DD will continue. It's been a hard few years for our MH!

TongueTwistr · 03/09/2022 13:16

TheSandwoman · 28/08/2022 18:39

There’s actually a massive shortage of skilled accountants. People are struggling to recruit. Yes basic trainee level positions may disappear so there’s an issue about how you get people qualified and experienced in future, but most experienced accountants don’t do mundane, repetitive tasks that can be easily automated.

You are quite right. Many Eastern European workers had excellent numeracy skills and were good at logical thinking and problem solving (all that chess?). Consequently, lots of organisations were happy to have relatively few experienced qualified accountants and lots of relatively underpaid spreadsheet workers.
After a long period of stagnation, my income has tripled since Brexit - on the plus side, my tax bill now pays the wages of two nurses.

RunningSME · 03/09/2022 13:46

TongueTwistr · 03/09/2022 13:16

You are quite right. Many Eastern European workers had excellent numeracy skills and were good at logical thinking and problem solving (all that chess?). Consequently, lots of organisations were happy to have relatively few experienced qualified accountants and lots of relatively underpaid spreadsheet workers.
After a long period of stagnation, my income has tripled since Brexit - on the plus side, my tax bill now pays the wages of two nurses.

RPA will automate a lot of the traditional accountants work

TongueTwistr · 03/09/2022 13:57

@RunningSME My work involves decision-making for the future, not keeping score of the past. I'm not being automated anytime soon, but the downward pressure on salaries was felt by all of us.

Badbadbunny · 03/09/2022 20:02

RunningSME · 03/09/2022 13:46

RPA will automate a lot of the traditional accountants work

I think you mean book-keepers. Accountants tend not to do the number crunching drudgery that is being replaced by bank feeds, data transfers, and AI.

EYProvider · 03/09/2022 21:18

Titsywoo · 03/09/2022 12:03

Indeed! I wish we did.

But at least most small businesses can claim it back. Nurseries have to pay it but can’t claim it back. They are 20% worse off than any other business.

RunningSME · 03/09/2022 21:56

Badbadbunny · 03/09/2022 20:02

I think you mean book-keepers. Accountants tend not to do the number crunching drudgery that is being replaced by bank feeds, data transfers, and AI.

That was why I said a lot not all.

Dinoteeth · 04/09/2022 08:51

wheresmymojo · 29/08/2022 23:57

Lots of households will be wishing they hadn't opted for 'low shedding' dogs like the various poodle crosses...

Lots of dog owners will be having a go with their own clippers.

Qik · 04/09/2022 14:15

Energy prices may be a nail in the coffin for pubs, but other factors have been at play for some time. Service levels have dropped post Brexit and the rise of AirBNB and greater local food outlets (especially in urban areas) means pubs and inns are spreading overheads less efficiently. Some will survive, but many others will not and those that do will be those where one partner has other earnings.

BooseysMom · 04/09/2022 14:26

Nail bars, car washes and fried chicken shops are notorious for money laundering due to the high cash easy to fiddle the books nature of the business

A Breaking Bad fan right there!😄

darisdet · 04/09/2022 15:41

BooseysMom · 04/09/2022 14:26

Nail bars, car washes and fried chicken shops are notorious for money laundering due to the high cash easy to fiddle the books nature of the business

A Breaking Bad fan right there!😄

🤣

Though they missed off laser tag!

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