The one where Big Dog is still here, and the race to be the new Top Dog. Thread 11

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Here is the old thread... let's keep on top of what's going on!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4584955-the-one-where-big-dog-gets-poop-scooped-thread-10?page=39

Very good point.

Didn't see the whole interview, but there was an old clip on bbc one from 2016 of Penny Mordaunt talking to Andrew Marr about the EU and Turkey and she looked different. Much more polished now.
She had to defend her position on what she said about that and the Gender ID question too. This will probably be her downfall I suppose
She did say she wouldn't come out of the ECHR
Doesn't sound as if Liz Truss is worried about the housing crisis then.
How will Kemi Badenoch keep families together for a small state tax system? Make divorce much harder ? That sounds like an attack on people in general, especially women I suppose. Or not paying benefits if people split up ? Making it harder to get somewhere to live ?

I am sure some Conservatives could come up with plenty of ways to ensure families stay together.

Of course, what they are bad at is supporting families and children when families do separate.

Badenoch article

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/16/conservatives-must-return-first-principles-ensure-get-basics/

Lots of blame, no real answers

Back to basics?

I am sure I have heard that before...

"We didn't have a veto" to stop Turkey from joining the EU, Penny Mordaunt tells the BBC.

When pointed out that this is completely untrue, Mordaunt replies that "I say it as I see it."

Truss wants to abolish the 'top down Whitehall inspired Stalinist housing targets

She’d probably quite like a few Gulags though.

OMFG

Raab
"We ought to enjoy the sunshine"

We know he’s good at enjoying the sunshine.

So do we assume from this Liz Truss financial backers are in property development 🤔

Removing regulations could also mean removing standards

Bit odd that article. Aside from her overall obsession with immigration-
"We need to bring people with us by delivering infrastructure first (where?) and insisting new homes are built to a higher standard and look more beautiful (requires more regulation not less). We need to break the stranglehold of the identikit cartel of land banking house builders (v interested in how she thinks they will achieve this. Again will require more regulation?)."

She wants more housing but also less (to protect green spaces).

Nothing on the cost of housing or rent.

Nothing at all about growth!

She also seems to suggest families will stay together if they are offered more tax breaks. IME family breakdowns have occurred due to MH issues, addiction, straightforward falling out of love, changing priorities or an inability to keep it in their pants.

Sorry meant to say I was commenting on Badenoch's article.

"Stalinist housing targets"

I don't know why I find that funny but I do.

Don't get divorced because you'll end up with less money and the State won't be there to support you or your kids.

I guess Truss is saying we had a Stalinist government for the last 12 years seeing it's their housing policies

"Don't get divorced because you'll end up with less money and the State won't be there to support you or your kids."

Yes that's how I read it. Stay unhappily married but feel the tax benefits! Feels like they'll return to condemning single parents.

Don't be a snowflake, put on a brave face and get on with things, just like in the good old days

Kemi's policies are very backward looking
Not everyone can afford to buy a house these days , it's not the prices of the 1970s.
She is rolling it back to the 1960s policy wise , if she makes the final two I bet a few members might like this though.

Family values from the party of Johnson.

I have no doubt she's focus grouped the hell out of that article. She's targeted Conservatives members concerns - lionising family & pretty houses, blame immigration for everything else.

Totally ignored - cost of housing/living, inflation, pressures on NHS and education (teacher retention) and growing the economy.

More I think about it the more irritable I feel.

The thing is - will they remember that a potential PM will be fighting an election in a few years time, and the concerns of the 200,000 Conservative members may well not be the concerns of the rest of the country.

Yes that's how I read it as well. How many times on MN have you read an unhappy, maybe abused, woman being reassured that she doesn't have to stay in that situation? Well in this vision of the future she will have to stay so she has a home for the kids and food for their bellies. What a utopian dream, or should that be nightmare?

I'm getting more depressed by the minute.

Absolutely cakeorwine.

The first three of which are Tory party members’ concerns. She and Truss seem to be competing to see which can move furthest to the right.

Mordaunt is now 'getting brexit re-done'

You really can't make this shit up.