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If you love the sun, how do you cope if you live in a Scotland? Or north England?!

239 replies

Bertieboo82 · 10/07/2022 15:55

I am a soft southerner. Born just outside of London and other than when working abroad for long stretches, I have always remained in SE. So used to mild winters and generally always good summers, sometimes long stretches of beautiful hot sun and long days. Good job too that I love the sun!

my brother is going up to Inverness next weekend on a stag weekend. Forecast is 17/18 degrees and cloudy. Whereas forecast for where I live for next weekend is sun all day and 29/32!!

my sister will be in Newcastle up on Tyne - 20/21 and patchy sun

I know this will suit many but those who love the sun and warmth… how do you fare if live up north?!

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Random789 · 12/07/2022 07:26

I'm from the south and live in the north east. I honestly don't notice it being any colder here at all. And as for cloudy/rainy versus sunny, of course that isn't a north/south variation -- though I understand there might be a northeast/northwest variation in that respect (soggier west than east)..

EmmajR86 · 12/07/2022 08:36

MeatballMeatball · 12/07/2022 07:21

But as a whole it’s colder and wetter and windier in the north west. It’s 8 am here, it’s just rained And it feels like18 C. It’ feels like 25c in london.

this summer there’s not been that many occasions where I’ve thought I’ll go out without a coat in the evening. This and last week has probably been the first week when that’s been ok.
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Already very warm here. My car thermometer saying 25 degrees and it’s 8.30. Cloudless sky

coffeecupsandfairylights · 12/07/2022 09:02

MeatballMeatball · 12/07/2022 07:21

But as a whole it’s colder and wetter and windier in the north west. It’s 8 am here, it’s just rained And it feels like18 C. It’ feels like 25c in london.

this summer there’s not been that many occasions where I’ve thought I’ll go out without a coat in the evening. This and last week has probably been the first week when that’s been ok.
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Having lived in both Suffolk and Cumbria, I can't say I've noticed a huge amount of difference in the temperature.

It's wetter up north but that doesn't necessarily mean it's cold. I don't remember the last time I used a coat or a jumper - it was 23 here yesterday (though according to AccuWeather it felt like 26) and it's not meant to drop below 17-18 degrees for at least another few weeks.

I don't consider 18-19 degrees cold though 🤷🏻‍♀️ but then again I work outdoors so maybe I feel hotter than most doing physical work.

liveforsummer · 12/07/2022 09:17

It was still 21c at 1am this morning here in Edinburgh and is 21 again now at 9am. Not sure if it dropped colder than that at any point but I was asleep so it wouldn't matter. Currently 24c in London. Not sure where the 10 c difference is coming from.

RampantIvy · 12/07/2022 09:20

Where is "here" @EmmajR86? I'm Morpeth, and it is 20 degrees and cloudy. Forecast high is 23 degrees.

RampantIvy · 12/07/2022 09:22

I'm in Morpeth (Northumberland)

SaintHelena · 12/07/2022 09:26

The prevailing winds are from the SW so the south-east is very warm in summer compared to northern areas but also pretty windless on a day to day basis.
So in Scotland you can open windows which cool things a bit and the temp drops at night so by early hours it's cooler. Not so in the stifling South-East.

EmmajR86 · 12/07/2022 09:31

EmmajR86 · 12/07/2022 08:36

Already very warm here. My car thermometer saying 25 degrees and it’s 8.30. Cloudless sky

South east
as a sun lover, it is sublime
and the winters are generally ridiculously mild.

i shudder at memory of university in Manchester. The rain. The rain. The rain.

i love love love the north and outs of family there. But the weather is, despite injections a of nice weather like how, so much chillier and wetter than south, and it is quite odd to say otherwise (as someone who has lived in various parts of the north for years)

EmmajR86 · 12/07/2022 09:33

RampantIvy · 12/07/2022 09:20

Where is "here" @EmmajR86? I'm Morpeth, and it is 20 degrees and cloudy. Forecast high is 23 degrees.

SE
cloudless and forecast high of 30

MeatballMeatball · 12/07/2022 10:01

The north east is drier than the north west, and less windy in the summer. But you get very cutting winds from the East in the winter.

It is just warmer in the south, and it is generally colder and wetter and windier in the north. It's the prevailing winds.

But note the 'generally'.

Also a few weeks in summer doesn't make up for long dark winters.

NCHammer2022 · 12/07/2022 10:20

The north west is wetter than London. The north east is drier than London, I’d take less rain all year round for evenings starting what, 20-30 minutes earlier in winter.

evilharpy · 12/07/2022 10:48

I live in the SW and am a sun worshipper but am moving back to Northern Ireland soon. I'm absolutely dreading the weather. It's just so bloody wet (plus it's always windy so the rain is usually sideways), and there's no real summer to speak of (anything over about 18 is fairly unusual). It's 19 there today and my facebook timeline is full of people moaning about the heat.

Every time for the last 20 odd years I've gone home for a visit I seem to forget how much worse the weather is and end up having to dash to Dunnes for a jumper/cardigan/coat because I've stupidly packed what I'd wear in SW England.

Delatron · 12/07/2022 10:55

I’ve lived in the North East and London. London was far warmer. The sunniest counties are all on the south coast? So Kent, Sussex. I don’t agree that the N.E has sunnier weather.

Even if it doesn’t rain as much as Manchester you can get a lot of cold, dreary weather. Much more than in the S.E this is why I moved down here and I don’t regret it. I would have definitely noticed if it rained more in London as I would have made a big mistake!

Bertieboo82 · 12/07/2022 11:02

Those scorning my use of the word “fact” re the SE having a fundamental different climate to the north, will be raging that it is certainly being taught as “fact” in the GCSE geography curriculum

Regional climates in the UK

Different parts of the UK experience slightly different regional climates. These can be summarised as:

North West - Cool summers, mild winters, heavy rain all year
North East - Cool summers, cold winters, steady rain all year
South East - Warm summers, mild winters, light rain all year, especially summer
South West - Warm summers, mild winters, heavy rain all year, especially winter
The variability of weather and climate in different regions of the British Isles is due to the different air masses that meet over the Isles. Each air mass brings with them different characteristics,

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zyj9v4j/revision/4

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BruceWaynettaSlob · 12/07/2022 11:09

It was 27°C on Sunday and 25°C yesterday in north-ish Scotland. I haven't slept properly in weeks because I'm too hot. I'm knackered now.

I imagine Scottish sun worshippers just get on with it for 10/11 months of the year. What else can they do?

BruceWaynettaSlob · 12/07/2022 11:12

Bertieboo82 · 12/07/2022 11:02

Those scorning my use of the word “fact” re the SE having a fundamental different climate to the north, will be raging that it is certainly being taught as “fact” in the GCSE geography curriculum

Regional climates in the UK

Different parts of the UK experience slightly different regional climates. These can be summarised as:

North West - Cool summers, mild winters, heavy rain all year
North East - Cool summers, cold winters, steady rain all year
South East - Warm summers, mild winters, light rain all year, especially summer
South West - Warm summers, mild winters, heavy rain all year, especially winter
The variability of weather and climate in different regions of the British Isles is due to the different air masses that meet over the Isles. Each air mass brings with them different characteristics,

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zyj9v4j/revision/4

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Ah, you're one of those posters. Everyone but you is "raging."

Bertieboo82 · 12/07/2022 11:14

I was being tongue in cheek

i don’t think anyone is raging on this thread. That would be quite odd if they were… we are talking about the weather after all!

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54isanopendoor · 12/07/2022 11:23

Grew up in Kent. Then lived London.
Scotland for 30 years ...

I prefer the breeze, clean air, lack of humidity to the muggy, polluted high temps of down south.
BUT ... the long winters with early darkness can be very depressing.
Winter goes on FOREVER ...

I take extra Vit D & have B12 shots & Iron infusions now.

My kids, who are Scottish born HATE the sun.

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 12/07/2022 11:34

Mixed feelings from me. I hate the heat but I also hate doing the school run dressed as Captain Bird's-eye. In Scotland we are just used to a bit more rain, a bit less sun. The long dark winter days I actually find cosy.

Palmpeople · 12/07/2022 14:51

NCHammer2022 · 12/07/2022 10:20

The north west is wetter than London. The north east is drier than London, I’d take less rain all year round for evenings starting what, 20-30 minutes earlier in winter.

This made me laugh, as if the north east is some sort of dry paradise? If it does rain less it certainly still rains a hell of a lot, I’ve lived there! Also I’ve just looked though and as far as I can see it gets more rain than London, and it’s certainly colder. All the sunniest counties are on the south coast (where I now live and it’s beautiful in this weather), which is a fact so I’m not sure why some are disagreeing. Hotter summers and milder winters down south, overall more sunshine hours.Of course the north does get some beautiful days too, but not as often!

NCHammer2022 · 12/07/2022 19:11

Palmpeople · 12/07/2022 14:51

This made me laugh, as if the north east is some sort of dry paradise? If it does rain less it certainly still rains a hell of a lot, I’ve lived there! Also I’ve just looked though and as far as I can see it gets more rain than London, and it’s certainly colder. All the sunniest counties are on the south coast (where I now live and it’s beautiful in this weather), which is a fact so I’m not sure why some are disagreeing. Hotter summers and milder winters down south, overall more sunshine hours.Of course the north does get some beautiful days too, but not as often!

Obviously it’s not a dry paradise. 🙄 But I’ve lived in both and London had more rain. I only brought it up at all because people were conflating NW (where it does rain a lot more) and NE and they have very different amounts of rainfall.

Delatron · 12/07/2022 19:51

I have lived in both and London does not have more rain! The S.E is sunnier and drier than the N.E and warmer. Manchester and the NW is rainier that is true.

We are talking in general terms not specific terms.

But if you want to get specific I looked at my Yorkshire town I’m from and tomorrow it will be 19 degrees and here in the S.E it will be 27…

That sounds more usual. You get the odd day or two of high temperatures but not for weeks on end.

JaninaDuszejko · 12/07/2022 20:06

You acclimatise and associate summer with long days rather than warm nights.

I grew up in the far north of Scotland. 16C is warm and over 20C was unbearably hot ('practically Mediterranean' was the local newspaper's headline) but it never gets dark in the summer. I now live in the NE of England and my Mum was laughing at me when we spent the day at Tynemouth and I said it was only 19C so really mild. At home that's a gorgeous summer day.

When I lived in the SE of England although it was (too) hot during the summer it never felt like summer because the sun set so early. I really missed the light. And the heat make it so hot and sweaty so you can't get things done whereas in Scotland the long mild days give you so much energy. People who like the heat often talk about being a lizard, lizards don't do very much though.

Calmdown14 · 12/07/2022 20:53

I'd consider 19 degrees in Inverness to be about perfect. It will feel warmer out of the breeze.

And the light quality in North east Scotland is amazing. Everything just looks so crisp in the sun.

Plus it will be light til 11pm

Delatron · 12/07/2022 21:02

I don’t really mind the sun setting at 9.30-10pm. I don’t really need it to be light at 11pm when I want to go to sleep - that wouldn’t be a reason to live somewhere cool. And in winter I dread to think what time the sun sets.
It’s bad enough down here in the winter!