Johnson resigns!

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Hurrah.

If Boris has resigned that should make everything perfect.
Things have moved so fast this week. I mustn't miss Dead Ringers on Friday.

I don't think the voters will forget

They will. There will still be the people in Uxbridge (assuming BJ stands again, or is selected again) who think he's a jolly good chap and vote for him. And where I live, where they don't care as long as the person wears a blue rosette. Something like Tiverton only really happens at a by-election. I'd love to be proved wrong though.

That said, my natural home is Libdem, but given their ridiculousness about what a woman is...

Other things being equal I agree, but competence and good policies are infinitely more important, and I'd suggest that recent US and UK history strongly suggest that big personalities tend to be appalling leaders.

So despite partygate where people were not allowed to be with their dying loved ones but MP's were drinking and having a good time, they rest of the party kept him in office at the vote of confidence and yet, when he promotes a known pervert, they get him out.

No one in the party comes out of any of this smelling of roses. With a few exceptions, they are all as bad as each other.

It's exactly the same same in our constituency. Huge Tory majority and voters will never change.

This is such an insightful and intelligent summing up of the current situation.

My view is that none of the likely candidates will want to be caretaker PM in the wake of this carnage, they will be putting themselves under a microscope at teh worst possible time and it will interfere with their campaigns. At the moment I imagine there are many who fancy themselves "likely" (even the likes of JRM, who I think is unelectable)

The most sensible choice would be Theresa May, but would she want it?

I find it so depressing. That people can look at this woeful excuse for a government and think ‘yeah, but at least they’re not Labour.’

It could change if the electorate would get behind proportional representation the FPTP is unfit for purpose as demonstrated by the so called landslide in 2019 it may even encourage more people to vote.

One thing you can say for Theresa May is she has a very strong sense of duty so even if she doesn’t want it I think, if asked, she would probably say yes.

Another thing.

All his bleating about needing to focus on important things, like the war in Ukraine. Does he really think that he, Alexander Boris de Piffle Johnson, personally, has anything meaningful to contribute to the situation? Does he think his track record as a terrible Foreign Secretary qualifies him in some way, or that his blustering 'charm' could possibly help?? Or his it just his grandiose Churchillian fantasy that he is pursuing? It's a complete insult to the people of Ukraine. After all the Brexit shambles (inter alia), how can he think that any European leaders could take him seriously? Or anybody anywhere take him seriously for that matter? What an absolute self-aggrandising entitled little scrotum he is. He needs to fuck of to the far side of fuck, cross into every alternate universe where fucking off is possible, and keep fucking off until the end of time.

I think I feel a bit better now.

Dont forget there is a Deputy PM.. Thats if Raab wants to take on the dregs of this shit show!

No we don't.

We need someone competant, honest, with integrity and intelligence. I'm quite happy to settle for boring as hell as long as he has the necessary attributes.

I agree. The problem is we will always rely on a government that’s got into power through FPTP to spearhead the change to PR. We need a minority Labour government with the LibDems offering support on the condition of working towards introducing PR.

What now I feel like I've just eaten several kilos of Haribo and obviously had a piss on his political grave and maybe even a dump but a huge emptiness where there was righteous hatred has opened up in my tortured soul. Housework beckons and jobs need to be done.

The problem with people voting for the Tories no matter what is the strange nasty thing in the British psyche where a lot of people don't vote for everyone (including themselves) to have a better life, they wilfully vote for other people to have a worse one. It's very depressing.

Ok then, I personally would like someone with all the necessary attributes and some charisma.

If others want someone boring that's fine but boring as hell doesn't engage.

That's true and I hope they ask.

Labour are not in any position to win a GE.

Starmer and Rayner anyone? Unless they do a deal with the Libs or even worse Sturgeon. You can guess what her price will be. The voters will see through all of that.

If Conservatives can get a good leader - maybe Javid they have time to get themselves together but Labour on their own will lose an election. There were people in the run up to the last election still feeling that Corbyn would win.

I see some threads as well calling people who vote Tory idiots and stupid. That is exactly why Labour supporters are always surprised when the Conservatives win again.

It always surprises me that Abbott wins with a huge majority when she can barely string two words together and is clearly unwell and needs to retire.

But people do..

Time for hung parliament Libs demand PR by diktat, SNP get indyref2 which they lose cos under PR the tories will never be in power again and we have a re-run election on PR and destroy the Tories as a governing force. Plenty on the left, even Nigel Farage punting it. That's my hopeful dream and we have a more constructive relationship with the EU based on partnership not division.So a government of all the talents rather than a corrupt cabal.

He seems to be saying that he has appointed a full cabinet. That could be interesting. If it includes anyone who has resigned they are going to have to do some spectacular wriggling to account for their willingness to work with a known liar.

But how can he represent us as PM when dealing with other countries? Will any other world leader pay any attention whatsoever to a lame duck whose colleagues all say they have no confidence in him as Prime Minister?

James Cleverly now education sec. What a barrel to be scraping

Sadly I don't feel that the righteous hatred will have gone until Boris does.

Labour are polling higher than the Conservatives & if there was a general election now Boris would lose his seat. The biggest thing now is why would anyone want to take a job in a cabinet still run by Boris when they know as soon as a new leader is elected chances are they will lose their job?

@stratforduponavon Just like people on MN call Nicola Sturgeon and her supporters bravehearts and thick, and she keeps getting elected. Conservatives in particular hate the SNP and SNP voters.