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Boris Johnson, parties and the loss of the Ethics Adviser, part 7

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DuncinToffee · 16/06/2022 12:46

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itsgettingweird · 27/06/2022 08:23

So it seems the thing that's pushed his in party supporters over the edge is his threat to stand until 2030!

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 08:45

Oh dear Grin

Adam Bienkov
I'm not saying the government is in denial, but there are currently people inside Downing Street adding up votes in elections they've lost, in order to make it feel like they won

Boris Johnson, parties and the loss of the Ethics Adviser, part 7
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Cornettoninja · 27/06/2022 12:25

Just listening to JOB about the governments reluctance to promote English degrees. It made me think, I’m sure there’s a well known saying/quote about fascism targeting three groups - journalists, lawyers and students I think it was.

Cornettoninja · 27/06/2022 12:26

(Fee like I’m trying to spot the horsemen of the apocalypse now! GrinGrin)

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 17:53

Liz Truss is asked why she is bringing forward a bill that breaks international law, replies that it's because she's "a patriot"

Confused
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DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 18:02

This is in reference to the second reading of the NI protocol bill.

This should worry the more decent Tories.

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Notonthestairs · 27/06/2022 18:35

"May confirms she won't vote for bill: "As a patriot I would not want to do anything that would diminish this country in the eyes of the world. This bill is not legal in international law, it will not achieve its aims and it will diminish the UK in the eyes of the world."

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1541471850177380354?s=21&t=7aC9228IOiVexwqQUaZg

I'm once again in agreement with Theresa May. (However I haven't forgotten citizens of nowhere)

Notonthestairs · 27/06/2022 18:36

But it's a nice sideswipe at Truss as a patriot.

Cornettoninja · 27/06/2022 18:40

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 17:53

Liz Truss is asked why she is bringing forward a bill that breaks international law, replies that it's because she's "a patriot"

Confused

That’s an interesting way to pronounce arsehole.

tobee · 27/06/2022 18:47
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DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 18:49

Big intervention from Tory MP Andrew Mitchell: "The bill brazenly breaks a solemn international treaty, it trashes our international reputation, it threatens a trade war at a time when our economy is flat and it puts us at odds with our most important ally."

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DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 18:54

Conservative MP Simon Hoare says that if a Labour government were planning to break international law as the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill does they would all accuse them of "not being fit for government."

"For a Tory to have to point this out to fellow Tories is shameful."

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Cornettoninja · 27/06/2022 19:00

Those cracks are just showing up everywhere aren’t they?

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 19:13

twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1541453818776387588?t=1l-dnGN4aYsIxZnCfC-G1A&s=19

Tied highest % to say 'incompetent' that we've recorded.

Government Competency Rating (26 June):

Incompetent: 54% (+5)
Competent: 20% (+1)
Net: -34% (-4)

Changes +/- 19 June

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Notonthestairs · 27/06/2022 20:25

twitter.com/peston/status/1541499264081223683?s=21&t=PSetFNdOTZuSuhRgVMBaBA

I'm too lazy to cut & paste the whole thread but it makes for depressing reading. The link goes to the initial post from Peston.

Yet again country comes last for Conservative MPs.

"perhaps eight Tory MPs will abstain and few-to-none will vote nay. But this does not mean Johnson has regained his authority over his MPs. Au contraire. One senior Tory told me the decision among One Nation Tories and Johnson critics to allow the bill to pass its second reading…

was a combination of “dangled political honours” and the imperative of looking “eurosceptic enough” to secure a job in a “future leader’s cabinet”. Most calculations by many Tory MPs at the moment are about the optimal time to unseat Johnson and how best to derive…

political advantage from that. And in a party whose members remain resolutely eurosceptic, a short cut to a top ministerial job is NOT to fight for more amical relations with the EU. “End of days feel” said the MP."

DuncinToffee · 27/06/2022 23:13

Peston was right

The Northern Ireland protocol bill passes second reading ayes 295 noes 221

Here is how MP's voted
votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/1325

Johnson is going to enjoy the coming days........

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L1ttledrummergirl · 27/06/2022 23:36

Another nail in the coffin of the conservative party.

Every bill that makes it through will be seen as the tories saving Johnson and that despite the confidence vote, they are all as corrupt as he is.
Even Teresa May didn't vote with her convictions despite grandstanding in the hoc.

The other parties need to be there for every vote, running it close to push the point home that the tories are damaging the country. Right now it looks as though nobody really cares, after all, they couldn't be bothered to turn up.

ItisallPooh · 27/06/2022 23:40

The Tory MPs are going to implode trying to keep the union whilst also trying please brexiteers and trying to distance themselves from party gate. I could almost feel sorry for them if they weren't fucking up the entire country!

tobee · 28/06/2022 00:16

Looks like my Tory MP abstained which is something

itsgettingweird · 28/06/2022 05:50

I'm not even sure why I checked to see what my Mp voted 🙄

I still can't get my head around the fact the attorny general has no morals about voting to break international treaty.

Roussette · 28/06/2022 06:42

My MP, how predictable voting to break international law. What a mess, as a country, we are in.
Yet supporters of this shitshow of a Governmen bravely defend, when there is absolutely nothing to defend, how low we have sunk.

Depressing reading here... I wish our MSM would be more honest with the electorate

Bloomberg

cakeorwine · 28/06/2022 07:36

All those Tories who said they disagreed with the bill, who said it would go against international law....and then abstaining

borntobequiet · 28/06/2022 07:50

That Bloomberg article has some graphs that clearly illustrate what a dreadful state we’re in because of Brexit. As was correctly predicted on so many threads.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2022 08:15

So Johnson is elsewhere agreeing to more international obligations. Meanwhile Conservatives are agreeing to break international obligations - and nobody in the Conservative party can see the contradiction?

Every now and then I think I see that maybe a few Conservatives will put the country before the party/themselves but everytime they prove me wrong. They are every bit in hoc to the ERG & the DUP as they ever were.

They are literally voting to make our lives harder and to diminish this country and all the time pretending to be patriots. Shameless.

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