Boris and his fines part 4

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Previous thread. More to come on the subject matter

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4536641-boris-has-been-fined-part-3?reply=117100091

I know people are outraged on here but if you were there would you have laughed?

it’s sarcasm and I’m sure most would have found it funny if there

Would you have felt annoyed at someone having a go at the PM

'Curiously, according to those who were in the room, the lot was greeted with hilarity and at no point did Mr Dowden intervene'

No doubt we'll have something 'incoming' from Pippa Crerar or similar to back this up. Anyway, people often laugh when offended and are caught on the hop apparently. #GrowlerGate.

The evening of ABBA wasn't a party?

The BYOB garden party wasn't a party?

Pull the other one.

The only reason Durham has been made in to a story is because the Conservatives are on the back foot - 18 parties. They knew about the constituency meeting in May 2021 it only became a Daily Mail campaign 11 months later when they realised how bad the polling was.

The sheer number if parties and the year they were held seems to continually escape you.

Oh ... And the 100 plus FPNs

Depends on if I'd list a loved one in all sorts of awful circumstances. If so, I'd be angry and upset

Why that # Janiie?

Are you posting misleading crap on Twitter to whip up similarly gullible folk?

I guess you’d have to ask people there how they felt

it sounds like it was greeted with hilarity according to Rayner

the lot was greeted with hilarity

this part

DH's office had proximity sensors.

Of course it was greeted with hilarity. We have a PM who’s a laughing stock. I’m askance that anyone would want someone so lacking in gravitas running the country.

Rayner completely missed it was a joke

he should be better at getting context as a journalist

So they laughed because they find any connection between the PM & "exemplary behaviour & morality" hilarious?

Further down the thread people are disgusted and angry etc basing their reaction on the Rayner tweet

Someone couldn’t believe their luck at having a bottle of champagne and wrote a satirical note and people laughed

I would have laughed I think even most people would. It would have been funny at the time

Jay Rayner wasn’t there and forgot to think about who wrote it, context and tweeted as knee jerk reaction and got it wrong

@JaniieJones If parties at work were perfectly acceptable, why were those children who had to go to school because their parents were working to save people like Boris in hospital not able to have birthday parties with the others they went to school with?

Surely in one of the very many Downing Street briefings Boris or someone else could have explained that such things were acceptable?

Judging from Central Office's reaction, no, it wasn't photoshopped.

And they'd have been legally entitled to it during the course of a long day on the campaign trail.

'And they'd have been legally entitled to it during the course of a long day on the campaign trail.'

Yes absolutely. Key workers working together in the workplace totally allowed to eat and drink together. Why was cake in the office breaking the law but beer in Starmer's office wasn't though? It is fascinating.The lack of consistency just has most rational folk rolling their eyes at this stage.

Tell you what I'm surprised at, how quiet the media are on the fact we didn't have the highest death rate afterall! After making up that we did for 2 years they're very quiet on this aren't they?!

Oh, Janiie, you can do better than that. We all know that you are perfectly well aware that the rules were different, and that the birthday event with Carrie and the interior designer were never covered by any exemptions whereas the beer thing was fully covered by the election campaign exemption.

Try and give it a bit of welly next time, eh?

Still not putting in the effort, Janiie, are you. Cake in the office was breaking the law because (a) it wasn't reasonably necessary for work purposes and (b) the gathering included at least three people who didn't work there.

And also because Johnson has accepted it was breaking the law and hasn't challenged the FPN.

AND the restrictions were very different a year before the KS beer. (pre vaccine, lockdown far stricter)

That gets ignored Every. Single. Time. by Tory supporters on here.
Because they know they are on thin ice. Not once has it been addressed by BJ fans.

Tell you what I'm surprised at, how quiet the media are on the fact we didn't have the highest death rate afterall!

Because it isn't a race to the bottom and there is nothing to celebrate about not being the worst.

And no, I won't be setting out what the restrictions were for BJ's many parties compared with KS's beer.
It has been set out on these threads at least a couple of times. Can't find it until Advanced Search comes back like it used to be!

But all I know is.... restrictions were very different

I keep seeing this but I’m not sure where it’s coming from?

the rules re indoor socialisation were this in April 2021

You must not socialise indoors except with your household or support bubble. You can meet outdoors, including in gardens, in groups of six people or two households.12 Apr 2021

They had exemptions for campaigning

You've missed this bit

The legal gathering limits do not apply to essential work, education or training events. Attendees are not limited to gathering in groups of up to six people or two households.

Catering can be provided at meetings and events for essential work, education and training purposes. This does not extend to activities that are not strictly related to the essential work, education or training, such as private dining or social purposes with work colleagues. If an essential work, education or training activity changes into a primarily social gathering, then social contact and indoor hospitality restrictions apply, and the activity must stop

I think that covers it ?