Anyone watching Amber heard take the stand?

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Really not sure what to think tbh.

The point is me and many people believed johnny depp was the abuser when these allegations first came out in 2016, so we was not in favour of white rich men then! It's only because of this court case we are able to see what actually happened . I'm still not a johnny depp fan , I feel bad for him going through this and hope u is able to heal. It doesn't mean I'm going to rush and watch all his films and buy dior aftershave!

• he is able to hear

Well I'm a woman and believed her in the beginning, but this has shown she has lied about many things and the evidence does not back her up. She has done a disservice to DV victims. It's nothing to do with male or female. It seems many simply believe he cannot be the victim and her the abuser simply because he is male and she female.

She didn't admit to being an abuser. That's what she did wrong with that article.

@Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious

And neither has he - but the UK trial found her version of events likely to be true.

If JD wanted to speak about about abuse, should that be allowed? Yes.

Should ‘only’ certain people speak out about abuse. No. Doesn’t matter if you are potentially an abuser too, have mental health issues etc, etc - any person who is experiencing abuse should not be silenced. There is no ‘right’ victim and no ‘wrong’ victim.

any person who is experiencing abuse should not be silenced.

She's not been silenced. If she'd stayed silent, she'd be hailed as a domestic abuse survivor advocate and philanthropist, she'd be reeling in new film parts, and she'd be living off the income of seven million smackeroos.

Instead she wanted to speak out but her right to freedom of speech does not mean she can defame someone else which Depp maintains she has done. The UK finding counts for nothing. We'll soon find out whether she can write about him as much as she likes, or she's living in a cardboard box under a boardwalk somewhere.

‘I feel bad for him going through this and hope u is able to heal’

You have heard the tapes? You have seen the texts he has written about the mother of his kids and his wife? Ok

@Earlydancing

”The UK trial counts for nothing”

Amber Heard was found by a High Court Judge in the UK to be a victim of domestic abuse at the hands of Depp.

This is what frustrates me. Yes that trial did very much count for something. And it was as a result of that trial that she wrote an opinion piece.

I’m sure you’d very much welcome an opinion piece from Johnny Depp had this situation been reversed.

From the Independent:

The judge later found that Depp physically assaulted Heard (including headbutting her, tearing out clumps of her hair, and holding her by her neck) and she said she had feared for her life. Depp is alleged to have sent texts to his friend, Paul Bettany, threatening to burn Heard and “f* her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she is dead”.

Both cases in England and the US centre on silencing Heard from speaking about the abuse she says he inflicted on her. I see many victims of domestic abuse being sued for “defamation”, for daring to speak about what their perpetrator did to them.

The world sits in judgment, questioning whether Heard is a “real victim”. Does she look like a victim? Does she speak like a victim? Does she cry like a victim?

Where are the headlines asking if Depp is a perpetrator, judging him on every move that he makes? There are no special measures in court – Depp sits there smiling, while Heard relives abuse and trauma.

So, when I see hashtags trending on twitter like, “AmberHeardIsALiar”, I realise how deeply entrenched misogyny is in our society. It doesn’t matter that there is a High Court decision proving that Depp assaulted Heard, it wouldn’t matter if the world watched Depp physically assault Heard in public, people would still support Depp. Why is he above the law?

I've been Pretty neutral through this but as it's we knowm depp has totally romanticism his drug and drink issue's.
I've not heard him actually admit how his addictions hurt others? Himself yes but not once has he admitted or seems to realised the sheer strain on those around him??
Instead blames his significantly younger wife for drink around him?
All about Johnny and that's the part I don't like along with his daughter been driven to panic attacks??

Grey I agree. The problem is heard has exaggerated so much And it's not clear at all what her injuries actually are!!
Ringed fist etc repeatedly punching her in the face?? Broken noses then the very next day she's on TV.

So, when I see hashtags trending on twitter like, “AmberHeardIsALiar”, I realise how deeply entrenched misogyny is in our society. It doesn’t matter that there is a High Court decision proving that Depp assaulted Heard, it wouldn’t matter if the world watched Depp physically assault Heard in public, people would still support Depp. Why is he above the law?

@Greyhop

Is it not possible to accept any findings that JD has been abusive and that AH has lied? 🤔

@ICanSmellSummerComing

Similarly it’s unknown how far JD is exaggerating. The finger? Caused by AD - or by himself as he smashed up the place.
It’s unknown and I think it’s likely they are both exaggerating.

But why is she portrayed as the evil, manipulative liar - and he the hero? At least, I’d say that the portrayal on social media/the gutter press. There seems to be more reasoned thinking in our ‘better’ press. It’s misogyny in action.

Saying terrible things about someone to someone else, isn't being abusive , they r not ok but I can feel sad for someone who I belive is being abused by is ex wife and still think it was awful for saying terrible things to a friend about someone, it wasn't directly at her. I can have 2 emotions on this , one doesn't cancel the other out !

The whole she is evil and he is a hero ! Like 2 extremes , what if most people see her as a lier who is trying to ruin him and he definitely has his issues but that doesn't mean it's OK for him to he victim of abuse and then his abuser accuse him and try and paint herself as innocent! She is not innocent!

And if u belive him and don't belive her u must hate woman is just so dam lazy! I see people as individuals I don't see them as whole! Woman can do terrible things, like murder babies that doesn't mean all woman must be baby murders!

@Newrunner29

The contemptible texts were cited in the UK trial as part of the evidence that favoured her version of events.

Texts, emails etc can be classed as abusive. Here taken from police advice:

For such an offence to be committed, a message must be sent to another person (or sent via a public communications network) that is indecent, grossly offensive, obscene or threatening/menacing.

But how would she know about it, if it wasn't for this court case. She wouldn't have seen these.
If someone sends terrible things talking to someone else about someone , the subject wouldn't know about it? Surely that's not very effective

@Greyhop